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Lust · 05-26-2001, 06:54 PM

That do you think about Russian webmasters?

In your tops, tgps, sponsorship proframs etc.?

If accept - good!

If not accept - WHY?

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Lensman · 05-26-2001, 11:15 PM

Russian webmasters are great.

A few cheat, but not many.

oscer · 05-26-2001, 11:22 PM

I want a Few 19 Year old Russian Sweeties

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UnseenWorld · 05-27-2001, 12:31 AM

As a photographer, I'd love to go to Russia and shoot some lovely Russian girls (I've already shot two fantasic Russians who married Americans). However, like many of us, we hear much about the Russian gangsters (aka, "Russian Mafia"), and I'd need some reliable assurances that I wouldn't be messed with when I got there.

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Incognito · 05-27-2001, 03:04 AM

What kind of mafia will mess with a photographer???

Dont think You should be worried.

ldinternet · 05-27-2001, 03:41 AM

Personally, I wouldn't trust them... the bad webmasters ruin it for the good ones.

DarkJedi · 05-27-2001, 09:21 AM

Hell yeah, I am an honest russian (well, ukrainian) webmaster and nobody want's to have business with me

So hard to find a sponsor that accepts webmasters my country. Sure we got cheaters, but US and all other countries do too.

Susan · 05-27-2001, 09:40 AM

Darkjedi

I have a very good adult webmaster friend in Russia and even he says there is a lot of cheaters in his country. Yes there are cheaters everywhere but I think you will find its the ratio of cheaters over good guys that make sponsors ban your country. Also, if you get down deep into the traffic feeds of the 3 major underage Lolita sites you will find 90% of it comes from Russia, re-directs and masking being there way of using western services. This really does annoy webmasters in the west and does your credibility no favours.

Clovis · 05-27-2001, 09:54 AM

I recieve some really great posts to my TGP from Russian webmasters, I also recieve some nasty fucking cheats too. So when it comes down to reviewing the daily subs, Ivan gets a little extra scrutiny.

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Absolut · 05-27-2001, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clovis:
I recieve some really great posts to my TGP from Russian webmasters, I also recieve some nasty fucking cheats too.

Our webmasters community permanently tries to kick cheaters out of business. I think it's impossible to get rid of all of these bastards but we hope soon their number will be very small

ldinternet · 05-27-2001, 11:41 AM

Absolut = Absolut Series?

wolfshade · 05-27-2001, 12:47 PM

Russians in my opinian are just like all other people

I have seen some fucking assholes spreading CP on every freehost they could get to.

I also know some great upfront Russian webmasters I would trust even with my life.

Same goes for Americans, Germans, Dutch webmasters in factit goes for all webmasters.

You got good ones and bad ones simple as that, and personally I thing origin got nothing to do with it

That's why I accept all countries in my programs. Sure I just make it a rule that all pages must be in English, so I can see what they are advertising.

Offcourse exceptions can be made but I get someone that speaks the language tpo monitor closely.

Now I can allready hear some of you say that's an awfull lotta extra work just to accept all countries, and you're right it is.

But I think it's worth it just so the good guys 'n gals won't pay the price for the trouble the bad seeds cause,

My 2 cents a minute,

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Absolut · 05-27-2001, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet:
Absolut = Absolut Series?

Unfortunately not, sorry

I'm not running any TGP site, just partnership programs.

Incognito · 05-27-2001, 03:43 PM

This is funny.

I demand EQUAL rights for Russian Webmasters!

Cmon people . Finish it up. We got our cheaters. They got their cheaters.
Ours hack toplists and cheat TGPS. Their spam forums and spread shit. Our worst people do CP and their worst people dont pay and help to process credit cards for that CP.
So what?
It's been equal since day one. It will stay equal.

The world is like that. Enough assholes everywhere for everyone.

ElvisManson · 05-28-2001, 02:03 PM

Incognito...and all the RU webmasters,

We have banned Russian and Polish and Ukrainian and every Eastern Bloc country for one reason.

80% or more of the webmasters that sign up for our Flat Rate affilaite programs are fraud.

They never seem to try and de-fraud our recurring program.....lol

As a sponsor Both Python Pays and Dollar Machine are interested in bring as many quality WM's to our programs as we can.

But when the amount of time that is spent weeding out the bad from the good starts to massively inflate our administrative costs, it doesn't make sense to even try.

It is easier to not accept people from a country that has massively dis-proportionate amounts of fraud.

It is nothing personal against any of you. It's just business, and you can certainly thank your cheating countrymen for your country being black listed on many Affiliate Programs.

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MelissaD · 05-28-2001, 04:05 PM

It's not a nationality thing its just a business thing. Porn has always been an open market for "bad" apples, online has just made it another avenue and more open to international big deal.

You got to take the good with the bad.. American, Russian, Australian, etc.

Who cares where you live? If you are a cheater you are a cheater.

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Incognito · 05-28-2001, 04:29 PM

No offense taken.
Just think that whenever You say "It's buisness" someone can add that "We all make mistakes" which goes both to You and those frauding russian webmasters.

Because they just get themself out of the program because of what they do.

You on the other hand simply loose market.

I for example dont really dislike any Russian Webmasters banning at all.
Why?
I beleive that Your result of Your work is exactly what You should get for how much and how good You work (pretty simple eh?

).

But if working with Russians is a hard job for a certain company than some other company with less requirements will make a dollar out of it (as they already do).
That simple.

Lensman · 06-20-2001, 03:57 PM

I wonder how many Russians properly license content for their sites?

Susan · 06-20-2001, 04:09 PM

Lensman

A lot, I buy from one and promote his teen site.

Not all Russians are cheaters, the Russians I know are honest and very good to work with.

Having said that though, the Russian boards do have a high level of cheat chat and there does seem to be a high proportion of cheaters in this country.

There is one religion in this world that produces more cheaters than any other, leave you to guess what it is or a war will start.

05-26-2001, 06:54 PM	#1
Lust Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Cyprus Posts: 209	About us (Russians) ;o) That do you think about Russian webmasters? In your tops, tgps, sponsorship proframs etc.? If accept - good! If not accept - WHY? Thanks ------------------ Make Money, Not War!

05-26-2001, 11:15 PM	#2
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Russian webmasters are great. A few cheat, but not many.

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05-27-2001, 12:31 AM	#4
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	As a photographer, I'd love to go to Russia and shoot some lovely Russian girls (I've already shot two fantasic Russians who married Americans). However, like many of us, we hear much about the Russian gangsters (aka, "Russian Mafia"), and I'd need some reliable assurances that I wouldn't be messed with when I got there. ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World

05-27-2001, 03:04 AM	#5
Incognito Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: RU Posts: 371	What kind of mafia will mess with a photographer??? Dont think You should be worried.

05-27-2001, 03:41 AM	#6
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Personally, I wouldn't trust them... the bad webmasters ruin it for the good ones.

05-27-2001, 09:21 AM	#7
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Hell yeah, I am an honest russian (well, ukrainian) webmaster and nobody want's to have business with me So hard to find a sponsor that accepts webmasters my country. Sure we got cheaters, but US and all other countries do too.

05-27-2001, 09:40 AM	#8
Susan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Amost UK central Posts: 772	Darkjedi I have a very good adult webmaster friend in Russia and even he says there is a lot of cheaters in his country. Yes there are cheaters everywhere but I think you will find its the ratio of cheaters over good guys that make sponsors ban your country. Also, if you get down deep into the traffic feeds of the 3 major underage Lolita sites you will find 90% of it comes from Russia, re-directs and masking being there way of using western services. This really does annoy webmasters in the west and does your credibility no favours.

05-27-2001, 09:54 AM	#9
Clovis Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 412	I recieve some really great posts to my TGP from Russian webmasters, I also recieve some nasty fucking cheats too. So when it comes down to reviewing the daily subs, Ivan gets a little extra scrutiny. ------------------ www.jadecandle.com

05-27-2001, 11:41 AM	#11
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Absolut = Absolut Series?

05-27-2001, 12:47 PM	#12
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	Russians in my opinian are just like all other people I have seen some fucking assholes spreading CP on every freehost they could get to. I also know some great upfront Russian webmasters I would trust even with my life. Same goes for Americans, Germans, Dutch webmasters in factit goes for all webmasters. You got good ones and bad ones simple as that, and personally I thing origin got nothing to do with it That's why I accept all countries in my programs. Sure I just make it a rule that all pages must be in English, so I can see what they are advertising. Offcourse exceptions can be made but I get someone that speaks the language tpo monitor closely. Now I can allready hear some of you say that's an awfull lotta extra work just to accept all countries, and you're right it is. But I think it's worth it just so the good guys 'n gals won't pay the price for the trouble the bad seeds cause, My 2 cents a minute, Wolfshade ------------------ Get paid per minute! Dialerclopedia

05-27-2001, 03:43 PM	#14
Incognito Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: RU Posts: 371	This is funny. I demand EQUAL rights for Russian Webmasters! Cmon people . Finish it up. We got our cheaters. They got their cheaters. Ours hack toplists and cheat TGPS. Their spam forums and spread shit. Our worst people do CP and their worst people dont pay and help to process credit cards for that CP. So what? It's been equal since day one. It will stay equal. The world is like that. Enough assholes everywhere for everyone.

05-28-2001, 02:03 PM	#15
ElvisManson Looking California Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 5,476	Incognito...and all the RU webmasters, We have banned Russian and Polish and Ukrainian and every Eastern Bloc country for one reason. 80% or more of the webmasters that sign up for our Flat Rate affilaite programs are fraud. They never seem to try and de-fraud our recurring program.....lol As a sponsor Both Python Pays and Dollar Machine are interested in bring as many quality WM's to our programs as we can. But when the amount of time that is spent weeding out the bad from the good starts to massively inflate our administrative costs, it doesn't make sense to even try. It is easier to not accept people from a country that has massively dis-proportionate amounts of fraud. It is nothing personal against any of you. It's just business, and you can certainly thank your cheating countrymen for your country being black listed on many Affiliate Programs. ------------------ Make Money. Period. www.pythonvideo.com www.dollarmachine.com

05-28-2001, 04:05 PM	#16
MelissaD Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 155	It's not a nationality thing its just a business thing. Porn has always been an open market for "bad" apples, online has just made it another avenue and more open to international big deal. You got to take the good with the bad.. American, Russian, Australian, etc. Who cares where you live? If you are a cheater you are a cheater. ------------------ Melissa Davies [email protected] www.BillinGuru.com 954 856-3071 mobile 954 227-0926 office 954 827-0335 fax 15566387 ICQ When it comes to your money, you need to see the whole picture.....

05-28-2001, 04:29 PM	#17
Incognito Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: RU Posts: 371	No offense taken. Just think that whenever You say "It's buisness" someone can add that "We all make mistakes" which goes both to You and those frauding russian webmasters. Because they just get themself out of the program because of what they do. You on the other hand simply loose market. I for example dont really dislike any Russian Webmasters banning at all. Why? I beleive that Your result of Your work is exactly what You should get for how much and how good You work (pretty simple eh? ). But if working with Russians is a hard job for a certain company than some other company with less requirements will make a dollar out of it (as they already do). That simple.

06-20-2001, 03:57 PM	#18
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	I wonder how many Russians properly license content for their sites?

06-20-2001, 04:09 PM	#19
Susan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Amost UK central Posts: 772	Lensman A lot, I buy from one and promote his teen site. Not all Russians are cheaters, the Russians I know are honest and very good to work with. Having said that though, the Russian boards do have a high level of cheat chat and there does seem to be a high proportion of cheaters in this country. There is one religion in this world that produces more cheaters than any other, leave you to guess what it is or a war will start.