Where do you think this business is heading? What will the future of porn look like?

Hehe, business topics get alot of replies around here

wow...sad that no one replied to this.

either way, i think mobile phone porn is gonna be the next "big wave" and most likely, like everything else, spiral out of control then we will wait for the NEXT big thing.

im hoping that the 2257 scares some people away or makes a few of the big boys walk away comfortably with what they already have in their pockets, leaving less competition & making todays "newbies" grow to be the next "big boys" of the industry.

100% exclusive content and lots of it.

not even hairy midget beastiality porn with pissing and shit will sell anymore

no doubt! its going to be the best for 2257 records & the best converting.

I think it will be all of the above with microbilling.

I think new ideas is definitely necessary. Its not what it was 5 years ago.So lets hope for the best.

People will start giving porn away for free instead of selling it.

"Tease factor".

you cant put the carriage before the horse. The mentality now is big a kick ass tour and who cares if you downlod the members area in 10 minutes.

what will change the industry is convincing visa/mc that a member gets what's promised.

3rd party billing will only survive with checks and balances ensuring the member gets at least a months worth, bare minimum. Raising the bar, IMO.

I firmly beleive we are going to see more and more newbies fresh out of kindergarten entering the adult industry over the next 12 months who will see the behavior of those they perceive to be successfull on the various adult message boards and beleive that is the way to make money, thus driving the useless drivel we have all come to expect from many of the once purely business related boards to an all time high.

Whilst at the same time many individuals who are around for the beginning of this newbie exodus will cater to them by creating more and more message forums where they can go to in order to post their whimsical nonsense filled posts.

Many of these clueless newbies will then realize that posting bs on message forums doesnt actually make them as much money as they were initially ideally hoping it would and at that time they will then proceed to create their own site in the form of a 'tgp' beleiving that this is the best method to get traffic to their sponsor.

After several attempts at getting trades to the new concept to them of a 'tgp' in a glimmer of hope to make the said tgp get more than 30 unique hits a day many of these newbies will then resort back to posting on the numerous message forums in order to get paid per post by companies who will be happy to pander to the wants of the newbie webmaster whilst branding their companies further into the adult industry.

All the time this is happening many of the new message forums created to fill the need of places to post useless drivel will then start to sell 'advertising' costing in the region of $500 per button because the foum owners will begin to realize that having nothing but useless crap posted on their boards wont get them many serious webmasters helping the rest of their end users.

However, whilst this is going on from the initial spurt of newbies entering the industry those webmasters who know that posting on message forums doesnt make them money will continue to be successfull in their business endeavors and will quietly go back into the 'shadows' of the adult industry laughing at the pityfull attempts being made by the newbies to make money.

Of course with the technological advances that are certain to be made in order to help webmasters lifes much easier with the day-to-day running of their businesses there will also follow many individuals and companies who will start to exploit this even further and offer services such as outsourcing and low cost design, content and, hosting plans which will start an all out price war between the providers of these services.

During this price war retail costs of the services will fall so low that virtually anyone with to rub together will be able to start their own paysites with affiliate program and flood the adult industry with below average paysites that trick the surfer into joining them.

From here we will see many of the companies that the adult industry relys on to remain profitable start to levy additional 'charges' to those honest webmasters in order to get good processing.

Several months later after these charges have been announced we will then see more hard times in the adult industry as naysayers start spreading stories of doom and gloom about proposed govermental changes in order to not only line their pockets but also the pockets of their lawyers.

Lather.. Rinse... Repeat.

Regards,

Lee

In the future porn will be beamed to the chip in your head.

I say it will be like this everyone has hard drives that are universal and plug right in to the tv/radio/car stero etc etc from your computer witch everyone just downloads free music, videos and picture's thats what it's going to come to mabe not in 5 years but that will be the next big thing.

Depends on who wins in November

Have you ever seen that movie AI? i think its gonna end up like LA was in that movie

5 years from now? serious question. not suprised by lack of replies, perhaps everyone is focused on 2257 and elections. or maybe no one wants to share what they are working on for the future... so they can stay one step ahead of the competition.

I think the #1 factor that will have a major impact on online businesses (not just adult) is Security. Perhaps in the (near) future, people will be worried, if not completely afraid, to go online because the spyware, malware, virus, worms, & browser hijackings will be impossible to avoid. they will stick to sites they trust, or put their faith in REVIEW sites and/or Search Engines that filter out malicious websites. I'm not banking on it, but I am building for that future if it comes.

Porn will be delivered to all devices a person has, including the ones they can carry with them, PDAs, PMCs (portable media center) and especially Phones. "Content On Demand" to your phone is coming sooner than you think. Mobile Content Delivery companies will thrive, as will the content providers that sign with them early on. If you think there's a lot of single girl sites now, wait till the future when everyone will be vogging (video blogging), using their mobile phones to beam VIDEO content directly to their own paysites and available for delivery on demand to member's mobile phones/devices. Mobile Porn (mPorn) will be over-saturating the marketplace. But this vogging technology will be one of the greatest features to enhance and increase member retention for dating sites, plus adding location-based services will help dating/social networks to dominate the future. of course people will still use their home PCs/TVs to view porn, but DRM will make all content a much tougher sell because the consumers won't like the DRM features/costs in the beginning. They've been bred to believe that once they pay for something, it's theirs and it'll be hard for them to accept the fact that the movies they downloaded can't be viewed anymore because they aren't members anymore, so of course this will lead to even more piracy, which will force paysites to charge $50-$100 month for memberships, because they need to cover the production cost of exclusive content, and factor in the cost of piracy.

but, then again... the internet/web as we know it, may not even be here in 5 years.

there will be no tgp's in the future. Only Paysites, which will be very expen$ive. I think the government will start a war on pr0n. Then they will proceed to block porn sites outside the US.

Holographic porn movies, almost the same as being there.

Damn straight ..

Good thoughtful post Taboo..

I wonder who owns vogging.com?

I dont think that will be the buzzword when video blogging becomes as easy and accessible as you mention but you never know what that next buzzword will be. vogging.com is as good of a guess as any

They already have started a war against porn, but I don't see them win that battle. Even the most conservative tightassed Washington republican likes to rub one out once in a while. That being said, it will be one hell of a battle.

What was already said on this thread about mobile porn was very well put so I won't repeat that.

I see more non-us based companies involved in this business than ever. Because of that so called "war on porn". Many US webmasters have done a move or are considering it already. US based webmasters might have to put up with all sort of headaches that are nothing in comparison to what they are today.

Processing will change somehow. Visa and MasterCard are always putting tighter restrictions for adult webmasters. Other billing solutions might be favored the same way it is in online gambling.

I really hope that the dot xxx TLD will not be part of the future.

Funny, that is what we've been working on for the last few months, one stop security shopping for the small to medium sized enterprises with a UL like stamp that could change (hourly/daily) if the site doesn't rate as compliant to whatever security standard the webmaster wishes, BS 7799, ISO 17799, FBI/CSI, whatever.

and there's the future

virtual fucking, but done in a wet-suit type of gear...


very realistic one-on-one or group fuck sessions, with sensation, smell, taste, etc...


an evolution of THIS

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/te...et-touch_x.htm

yes, i wonder who owns it

it'll probably be a long time before people start using the word "vogging"... or maybe...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search



just a handful now, but that's all it takes sometimes...

now, I wonder who owns mPORN.com?

Bah, all this stuff is thinking small. The ultimate future in porn has already been spelled out.

Where?

LOGANS RUN.

Yep, that cheesy-ass 70s movie with the spandex jumpsuits had the ultimate porn connection... push a button, choose your women, push another button and they're beamed right to your apartment so you can get to the banging.

Now that's a future I can support. You'll never get me on carousel, though.

I was just thinking of Cherry2000. Robot porn is the future.

depends on the billing companies.

Oh man, Cherry 2000! I haven't seen that movie in like 20 years. First 'naughty' movie I saw on Pay TV.

Man, I gotta find that flick. Talk about a blast from the past!

Micro-billing or squeezing one non-adult sale per 100,000 visitors....

I just watched this again last week. walmart had this dvd on sale for $.99 - worth every penny! they're remaking this movie for 2005: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402344/ - same director (Bryan Singer) as X-Men 1&2, and the upcoming Superman 5. Wonder if they try predicting our "porn/adult" future again.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah

Hit me on ICQ (18822023) for some!

It could be a problem ONLY IF they could actually force adult sites to stick to .xxx TLD.

If we can get started on the microbilling and 2257 can stop some free content from spreading all over, this industry will get back very strong

My opinion is based on mainstream porn, not on obscure fetishes/niches.

For the Internet delivery method of porn there will be a growing realisation by the established porn companies that the Internet is the future and PRESENT. They have largely ignored it up until recently but that will not remain.

Some will prosper like Hustler, Score, Private and some will get it wrong and come back to try again, like some are doing right now.

The days of the small sites, except in fetishes, are numbered. The days of people throwing up a site with 200 sets they bought in a content blow out are also numbered.

Todays membership surfer is no longer a "Virgin" he's belonged to sites before and has had his expetancy levels set. We can no longer fool him as we did two years ago.

Exclusive is not that important, unless you have a budget to put up 2-6 exclusives a day. The surfer does want good porn he has not seen before and around 4-10 sets/videos a day. Those who go out and research their supply market, buying and publishing the right product when it's released are the ones who will go forward.

10 non-exclusive sets or videos = $500 approx
10 exclusive sets or videos a day = $5,000 approx

And putting the same girl on a diffent sofa or sucking a different dick/cameraman does not make it exclusive content. The sheer budget requirements of keeping up with a site researching and buying and publishing new content will win out in the end. Assuming we are talking mainstream porn.

As for the US Goverment stopping the porn Internet, I think you will fing non US companies ready and willing to fill the void. Nothing will be done to stop the US surfer accessing porn.

If that happens, the adult industry as we know it will change dramatically, and would make it 500 times easier for the goverment to abolish the U.S. internet porn industry. It may sound far fetched, but trust me, .xxx is the worst thing I can think that can happen to us in the near future.

you wouldn't happen to be a content provider, would you?

I love this part of your site:
http://www.paulmarkham.com/?from=gofuck
"We are Content Providers for Adult Internet Websites and "Mobile phones."

nice forward-thinking. do you find a lot of people licensing your videos for mobiles yet?

I'm interested in knowing this as well Paul if you don't mind divulging.

the correct answer.

this will be the easiest way to maintain 100% compliance on any new 2257 reg.

Right, unless your a foreign webmaster, in which case you will most likely not care...which is why I think that the number of foreign webmasters will increase dramatically in the adult internet in the future

hopefully micropayments will be widely adopted and accepted by surfers. perhaps 2257 will rejuvenate this industry.

business? i thought we were all here to make would you hit it threads?

hmmm

for every 1 surfer who turns "professional porn surfer" and has seen the same girl all over the net.. there is 1 that is new to it all.

what about sms billing via cellphones? Where do you guys see that going?

Cool URL.

great business thread worthy of a bump.

adult community sites
I'm not necessarily talking about forums, but communities simialr to suicidegirls.com where it's not just a porn site, but an amalgam of porn, mainstream topics, non-porn but adult related articles, etc. The typical porn membership site will change and not just be a closed off pay for access area, rather it'll be part of one large system where each part feeds off another with possible a la carte pricing for special features.

For more information, pick my brain in Phoenix over a couple beers ;-)

Good, EXCLUSIVE content. This is the only reason a surfer sigs-up : CONTENT. It's simple.

like a porn version of AOL? or MySpace? or?

we're focusing on two markets:
one on a smaller scale, upscale, exclusive, possibly under the brand VIPCLUB (.com)... not fully PORN but definitely Adult Lifestyle. And on a much larger scale, targeting everyone/niche/fetish, male & female, under the brand ClubPorn.com - primarily a free community site (i.e. myspace meets friendster)

...perhaps both will launch in 2006.

but since I won't be in Phoenix, can I pick your brain now? perhaps collaborate? I won't be able to build these alone.

if you or anyone else is interested in these ideas or my blog network (gfy thread), please email me to discuss:
[email protected]


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