All I have to say is a guy with no legs and no arm is hardcore. That would definately suck.

Yeah but if it is a lie, then that should be acknoledged, know one is asking them to not speak freely, they are asking them to speak truthfully!

was he even there long enough to earn anything before his sudden disapearance?

Really? Can you define "irresponsible speech" for me? Who determines if something is irresponsible? I bet I could find a few irresponsible adult sites just following links in this thread....should they get shut down for being irresponsible?


Note that I am just asking questions for your perusal.


--T

Just another point to ponder.....

If it were a lie, then why hasn't the DNC just filed suit for Slander or Libel and just get a TRO. It would be a 30 minute process if it were clearly a lie, would it not?


--T

good to see those two focused on the issuse todays modern world faces.


I dont know about you guys but i sure know i will feel saer having one of thse to school yard gossipers running the most powerfull nation in the world.

Now where did i put my beer and that slab of back bacon

kerry's getting his ass handed to him for lying about his war record and then running on it.:1orglaugh
so now, after the DNC called Bush a deserter, moveon.org and others slandered Bush and it just rolled off his back, they want to cry foul when the swift vets rip holes in kerry's fake record.

kerry: "I was in cambodia for christmas. its etched my mind and is something I'll never forget"

reporter: "um, mr kerry, the records show you where somewhere else for christmas"

kerry: "how dare you attack my war record?"

one guy is running his entire campaign on his war record of 30 some years ago. The other is calling him on it.

why anyone would vote for a clown because he spent 4 months in vietnam when he was 20 is beyond me.

It's like this, say a few of my friends and I make a bogus website against "pornstar A" saying we worked with "pornstar A" and we think "pornstar A" is a real scumbag / unreliable / bad for the business.

Now none of us have ever done any business dealings with "pornstar A"- none of us have even met "pornstar A", we're just in the adult industry at the same time as "pornstar A" and these are our opinions based on what we heard.

Now let's say a few of my friends and I work for "pornstar B"- do you really think "pornstar A" isn't going to slap us with a liable suit?

The point is who gives a flying fuck who did or did not do what in a war that ended over a quater of a century ago. Id be more worried about your economy, healthcare, and world political stance and what these two fucktards plan for your country but thats just my
:2 cents:

any why someone would vote for a draft dodging oil tycoon riding the coattails of his fother is beond me.

you guys need a third party or something lol

stop embarrassing yourself.
Kerry's unit is much larger than just the 5 guys on his boat. The unit consists of several boats and on the missions in question, multiple boats took part and no one outside of kerry's campaign (read that as "5 guys on his boat") agrees with kerry's version of events.

to assume 250 guys who say kerry is wrong are all republican paid liars but the 5 kerry supporters are not paid and truthfull is naive at best.

only in canada are successful people looked down on.
it explains a lot.:1orglaugh

It is defined as interpreted by the Supreme Court. A classic example of irresponsible speech is yelling fire in a crowded theatre when no fire was present. Another would be to threatened someone's life with violence.

For the record- people pointed out that Bush joined the National Guard and deserted long before the Kerry Campaign.

I don't know how people can try to shoot down Kerry's war record when Bush didin't even have the staying power to make it through guard duty?

GW is a "draft dodger" just like Clinton, he just had stronger family ties.

im just saying they both have a "Black eye" when it comes to there service record.. but who gives a shit.. theres alot more iimportant shit going on right now today to deal with rather then this mud tossinng political BS

see, not having a clue about what's going on would certainly lead you to say something like this but the fact is, one guy is running solely on his 4 month war record because if you talk about the economy, security, healthcare, and world political standing Bush wins.

it might surprise you that I disagree with your position LOL

but however, Bush is the one trying to keep the argument in the past, and harping on events from 30 yrs ago, kerry is only returning fire, if bush tried to argue the modern dasy debates that effect us all, you would see more states termed battleground states, switching like Oregon has, we now have a comanding 12 point lead over Bush here, and it is only growing stronger.....

:eek7

sorry but can you back up how bush has helped in those areas please

Im not trying to rag on yeah.. if you can prove that bush is a good thing for the us and the rest of the world please do.

Frankly i think there both morons but in a 2 party system your fucked both ways

Are you serious? Have you ever listened to one Kerry speech or watched one Kerry commercial? His strong point is the economy, not his war record. I don't like Bush but at least I take the time to get to know what his platform is.

funny how you forget the year Kerry spent serving on the USS Gridley before he was a Swift Boat commander

now, where's that proof dubya ever showed up for guard duty?

Someone in this thread got owned today. The head of the anti-Kerry group got caught in a lie on tape and his original comments to Richard Nixon back up Kerry's story.

His recent comments about Kerry have now been proven to be lies:

O'Neill said no one could cross the border by river and he claimed in an audio tape that his publicist played to CNN that he, himself, had never been to Cambodia either. But in 1971, O'Neill said precisely the opposite to then President Richard Nixon.

O'NEILL: I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the water.

NIXON: In a swift boat?

O'NEILL: Yes, sir.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0408/24/asb.00.html

John O'Neill got busted and Kerry was right all along.

:1orglaugh

Sweet! :thumbsup

They probably will spew some BS about national security and not telling the truth where they were etc.... of course they were in cambodia, ( but remeber we claimed for years we were never there)

Kerry wants to run on his war record because his Senate record is MORE liberral then Kennedys!

If Kerry was honest he would come out and say he was a liberal.

But Liberals hate to use the "L" word.

Want to know what I think about all this?





http://www.psychoclownposse.com/clown-ill.gif

:2 cents:


:winkwink:

There's nothing more liberal than porn. :2 cents:

You should just copy and paste from Rush Limbaugh's website. Wait, you already do. :1orglaugh

Any Porn webmaster on this board trying to dis John Kerry or who is supporting "W" better pull their head outta their ass. "W" and all his dumbass peeps are Born Agains and would love to see PORN stopped in its tracks. Really they dont care about your right to free speech all they care about is getting their way this country.

People this isn't a fucking football game, this is the way you make money so get it together. No Demo will ever try and fuck with Porn the way that wannbe cowbay wants too.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

I agree!!

I am a Libertarian at heart. I think the gov't is too big, and controls to much power.

I am for strong defense, conservative economic policies, and gov't out of peoples personal lives AND wallets!


I think adults should be able to be adults and not treated as children by the gov't.

I love the "L" word but you're wrong about Kerry's voting record. This assumption that's he's more liberal than Kennedy comes from his voting record for ONE YEAR out of 20. Kerry is a moderate.

Rush who?

Prove it.

If Kerry is a moderate, then Kennedy is part of the right wing conspiracy!

Article about Kerry's voting record. Figured I would help you get educated http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true

Here are the ten most liberal Democratic senators currently serving, according to the National Journal:

1. Mark Dayton, D-Minn. 2. Paul Sarbanes, D-Md.
3. Jack Reed, D-R.I.
4. Jon Corzine, D-N.J.
5. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass.
6. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.
7. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa
8. Richard Durbin, D-Ill.
9. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J.
10. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt

Here is a breakdown of votes based on issues.

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rati...an_id=S0421103

I would not define him as moderate.

Cleland is a freaking hero. I watched him on CNN awhile back talking about the Iraq issue.
He is one DAMN smart man and a real role model.

perhaps you are correct. kerry is not a true moderate. he is also not THE MOST LIBERAL.

but that won't stop the bushies from misrepresenting kerry'svoting record now will it?

honey, saying it doesn't make it so.
He's run nothing but vietnam footage all along.

And since you know Bush's platform, lets hear it.:1orglaugh

seems he did too. I guess sitting on a ship getting sun burn wasn't sexy enough for his image.

the proof is in his honerable discharge.
only amongst the dopey liberal crowd is this not proof enough.