we do wires check paypal and epassporte

nice shit..gonna make some folks rich :thumbsup

very cool... will start sending you more traffic come wednesday, and see whats shakin.

I need a good geo ip redirecter too. =(

click cash does charge the surfer $1 when they join, although its supposed to be a credit towards buying videochat time.

Exactly. And our Epic Cams site works the same way.

Does that mean that us chathost on the site will have to deal with even more freeloaders(guest) than we already deal with? There have been a bunch of guest coming into the room annoying the hell out of us begging for us to show our boobs, ass and blah blah with no intentions off getting a show. Not saying all of them but a majority of them and now its even worse since they have full video even if they dont go premium. Since you will be using the same outline for your affilate program as clickcash does that mean that the host on the site will soon have a choice in which way they want to host. Such as on ifriends where you can host a free to private session (which is what epiccams/streamate is doing now) and also the standard session ( which means they dont see video until they come into pay but still have the ability to chat without seeing video) If we can have the 2 host options that would be really great. So when we get annoyed in the free-private session we can switch over to the standard session. If you know anything about this please let me know. AIM:ISUCKEDYOURMAN8

Lol....I get twice that straight from clickcash....

yep

LOL. idiot. prove it.

clickcash is down for me atm :1orglaugh

probably because of pushpills 300 hits a day overloading the server.

Just like ClickCash?

HDTV Cams?
Multi-View Cams (4 views at once)?
3D Vision Cams?

yep, all of that

DamnGoodRatio your comment ...quote..

And 100k checks? This is just amazing. They didn't bounce that many checks and they replaced the ones that had bank trouble. newsearch.php - look into it ..... unquote

is total bullshitttttt,i have 2 clickcash/ifriends checks returned from the bank stamped returned due to lack of funds in the account..they only totalled 700bucks,

i contacted clickcash many times and got no reply and before you say did i spam or was i termed the answer is NO,i still have the account although i,m not stupid enough to promote them anymore.

SO Just because they may be big it dont mean they have any $$$$.

ps ,i dont promote epic just wanted the world to know how clickcash treated me.

:(

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Girls sleeping on cam or reading books waiting for one of their regulars to come along (gives them a audible from their PC) - totally ignoring all the freebie traffic?

Pay periods every 2 weeks

yep all of that too

lol

You should give Epic Cams a shot. We won't fuck you over and I can work with you personally to ensure you convert very well.

oh wow, you made 640 in a pay period. tho art thee savior.

lame hahahahahaha.

670 in a little over 3 days....

i made that by the time you replied to me.

you have no room to play in my yard kiddo

and if it were epiccasms...it'd be like 330

it's just one sponsor....


either way...they pay twice what you do...was my point that I make more money than you or that clickcash pays twice what you do?

ok dip shit. let me lay it out for you.

you can take your 16 sales with clickscame.. or you can take 32 sales with epic cams.

get my point?

they shave you silly. they cant pay 40 on an initial join. just doesnt and wont ever happen in a perfect world.

fucking moron.

That's a serious payout, do you actually have anyone making $70 per signup?

How could you afford to pay that much?

you dumb faggot.. read the fucking thread. we jus6t started this last night.

and if i have to sit here and explain to you how i can afford to pay 70 on 250 sales or more then you would never understand.

which would be still the same amount....

but who's to say how much you shave.


get my point?

yep, and who is to say how much they shave? get my point? wtf is your point?

dont send traffic if you dont like it. pretty fuckign simple you zit faced adolecent.

Those were serious questions, not insults.

You didn't just start your program last night did you? Then it's possible you had someone sending 251 joins a pay period already. Get it? You'd be paying him $70/join from now on. That's what I was asking, it's not complicated. I guess you didn't get your grade 10 in con college?

Obviously the answer to that is an overwhelming no, since no one with that much traffic would touch your two bit program.

pimpdog, I've tried multiple cam sponsors with my traffic, tracked the outbound stats, and clickcash makes the the most per click, pays every week on time, and they don't speak ebonics.

good luck with epiccams.

im withholding judgement and will let my stats to the talking. we'll see.

i guess you will never know...

you have not tried mine, so dont judge it unless you try it.

I am smarter than 90% of the idiots in this industry. that is a FACT. I know how to make money for myself and my affiliates. and i think i have proven that.

Looks good.

How many pre-checked cross-sales do you have after the first page / what do they amount to and rebill to?

Matt

Since you didn't reply, I just checked...

The $1 Life-time cost will cost the surfer a total of..

$1 and another $1 for trial if they don't un-check the cross-sales..

and $39.95 and $19.84 if they don't cancel those memberships.

So if they don't un-check the cross-sales and don't cancel, the $1 membership will cost the surfer $62.79

Matt

Yep, this is my only objection to promoting them, but with these payouts I might give them a shot. Over the last year I've done dozens and dozens of traffic tests to different cam sponsors and without a doubt, cross sales significantly lower conversion ratios on free join promos.

For example, when Weg first started their Ezcams program I sent 10k of quality cam traffic and was disappointed to only convert at 1:133. I then learned that they had 2 prechecked cross sales on the join page. (All this after they had "free" plastered all over their fpa's to lure the surfer to the join page) After much webmaster complaining, weg took down the cross sales on ezcams. I then sent another 10k from the same traffic source and sent it to the exact same ezcams page as I had before. This time I converted at 1:69, almost 50% better than with the cross sales.

Anyone can do this same test, just send some traffic to Weg at www.vipstream.com and then send the same amount from the same source to Epic's www.epiccams.com The two sites are almost identical looking, but notice how much the conversion ratios will differ.

Pimpdog seems determined to move his cam program forward and compete with the big boys, but in my opinion it won't ever happen until he removes the cross sales. I've talked to Epic and I know they are tied into long term obligations with sponsors on the cross sales so I've held off promoting them until they make some changes. I send high quality cam traffic to over 20 cam sponsors and track my $/unique like a hawk. There's no reason to waste traffic on a sponsor who isn't doing everything in their power to help convert my surfer.

lazycash - VipStream and EpicCams seem to have the exact same back-end for sure so it seems your comparison is as fair as they could be. :)

Matt