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European Lee · 08-21-2004, 03:46 PM

You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do

Regards,

Lee

detoxed · 08-21-2004, 03:46 PM

because they are morons

WiredGuy · 08-21-2004, 03:47 PM

Maybe they don't have an interest in managing paysites, at least that's my reason for not owning a paysite.

WG

BRISK · 08-21-2004, 03:49 PM

Paysites are all about content, design is the easy part.

EscortBiz · 08-21-2004, 03:49 PM

most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

nothing nada

I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

some people will never learn

Jdoughs · 08-21-2004, 03:51 PM

The same reason that race car drivers dont fly planes, and carpenters arent electricians .

Do you really need to ask this question??

EscortBiz · 08-21-2004, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jdoughs
The same reason that race car drivers dont fly planes, and carpenters arent electricians .

Do you really need to ask this question??

lay down the pipe

Peaches · 08-21-2004, 03:53 PM

IIRC, isn't FletchXXX opening a paysite?

tootie · 08-21-2004, 03:54 PM

I do

AdultNex · 08-21-2004, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

nothing nada

I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

some people will never learn

Who said designers always pump out "Flashy" websites?

http · 08-21-2004, 03:54 PM

What I really wonder is why paysite operators do not design. Lensman could make tgp templates on the side and make a fortune with it

Jdoughs · 08-21-2004, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
lay down the pipe

Not me on the pipe...i understand why designers dont run paysites...or atleast why most dont. Like my anology above, they dont run paysites because they are designers, not program owners.

FlyingIguana · 08-21-2004, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do

Regards,

Lee

concentrate on what you do best

EscortBiz · 08-21-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by AdultNex
Who said designers always pump out "Flashy" websites?

Can you read?

I said "Most"

The Truth Hurts · 08-21-2004, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do

Regards,

Lee

Time, money, effort...

and not necessarily in that order.

fris · 08-21-2004, 03:58 PM

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mcmc · 08-21-2004, 04:04 PM

im working on it ... should be ready in about 3 weeks

AdultNex · 08-21-2004, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
Can you read?

I said "Most"

Who said most? I know of about 3-4 designers that focus on Flash-based paysites.

... And who said "flashy" sites don't convert?

dennisthemenace · 08-21-2004, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jdoughs
The same reason that race car drivers dont fly planes, and carpenters arent electricians .

Do you really need to ask this question??

The Truth Hurts · 08-21-2004, 04:10 PM

know what happens when designers try to do their own paysites....? Maximum Revenue happens : )

BRISK · 08-21-2004, 04:11 PM

OK, so a designer can fire up photoshop and crank out designs all day long every day.

So where is the high quality exclusive content coming from? Can they make that in photoshop too?

Juicy D. Links · 08-21-2004, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
lay down the pipe

thats what the chicks tell me

Reak · 08-21-2004, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

nothing nada

I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

some people will never learn

You're right

KRL · 08-21-2004, 04:14 PM

Almost every designer I've met are creative types, not business types. They enjoy creating artistic work not running a business.

The Truth Hurts · 08-21-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Almost every designer I've met are creative types, not business types. They enjoy creating artistic work not running a business.

Hey look... someone finally got it right.

tootie · 08-21-2004, 04:20 PM

I personally love the business side AND the creative side. Not eveyone can do that, though, for sure.

AkiraSS · 08-21-2004, 04:22 PM

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Sharky · 08-21-2004, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
know what happens when designers try to do their own paysites....? Maximum Revenue happens : )

HAHAHAHAHHA! Good One!

Quite simply, time and conflict of interest.

Would you open up your business secrets to someone who is actively competing against you?

European Lee · 08-21-2004, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sharky
Would you open up your business secrets to someone who is actively competing against you?

Yes i do it daily on our resource community and have turned that help into a successful business of its own ;)

Regards,

Lee

stocktrader23 · 08-21-2004, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex

... And who said "flashy" sites don't convert?

me

stocktrader23 · 08-21-2004, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

nothing nada

I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

some people will never learn

Amen.

pornstar2pac · 08-21-2004, 04:43 PM

that's like asking, how come more drummers aren't singers?...

Doctor Dre · 08-21-2004, 07:52 PM

Paysites are a lot of work and money . Designers are mostly artist and are unorganised

mardigras · 08-21-2004, 07:54 PM

Some people are artists
Some people are salesmen
With some people
Never the twain shall meet

mammy · 08-22-2004, 01:53 AM

paysites main thing not in design and content
designer of course can buy content like other people too ;)

thing is in managment and marketing
not all designers have enough skills to generate traffic

Roald · 08-22-2004, 01:55 AM

Because opening up phostoshop and create a design is totally diffrent than create the design, get the content, manage the site, manage affiliates, update the site, manage payments, etc etc

I am working on it though as I think someone need to expand and look a bit further than photoshop

Btw Bruno is running a paysite and Dickmansdesign

Roald · 08-22-2004, 01:57 AM

btw I totally dislike the ideas some people have about designers in this threat

dirtydesignz · 08-22-2004, 02:01 AM

I do

mind · 08-22-2004, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do

Regards,

Lee

How many assemply workers at ferrari do you think own and drive a ferrari?

Just because you can make something - dosen't mean you need to own one.

Manowar · 08-22-2004, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
OK, so a designer can fire up photoshop and crank out designs all day long every day.

So where is the high quality exclusive content coming from? Can they make that in photoshop too?

maybe do some 3d or cartoon content ?

BlueDesignStudios · 08-22-2004, 06:54 AM

Yo Lee.. hit me up man.. lets get that site of your finished

MichaelP · 08-22-2004, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Almost every designer I've met are creative types, not business types. They enjoy creating artistic work not running a business.

EXACTLY

Mysef I am a designer. I know that sites I do for customers convert. Why? cause they also have good traffic...

Actually I am not a traffic guy, I am an artist. PERIOD.

You can't be excellent at everything anyway

Orga · 08-22-2004, 07:25 AM

Huh . Paysite design is just

Why programmers don't write own OS ?

Sharky · 08-22-2004, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Yes i do it daily on our resource community and have turned that help into a successful business of its own ;)

Regards,

Lee

You are one of the few still doing it. lol. and admit, you don't give away ALL your secrets!

European Lee · 08-22-2004, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sharky
You are one of the few still doing it. lol. and admit, you don't give away ALL your secrets!

If im asked i do ;)

But it asking the right questions that many webmasters dont understand ;)

Regards,

Lee

Jakke PNG · 08-22-2004, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by qwebecexpo

You can't be excellent at everything anyway

I am.

BlueDesignStudios · 08-23-2004, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
Yo Lee.. hit me up man.. lets get that site of your finished

bump... shoot me an email Lee.. lets get the European Webmasters site sorted

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