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Old 01-10-2004, 10:00 PM   #1
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Truth about Perfection(Jeff)

This thread is in response to Jeff's post:
Jeff's post

First of all, I am Dana's consigliere. Here is the truth about the entire situation:

After Internext 2003, Dana and I met with Jeff and finalized her contract. I had some intrepidations and Jeff reworded some of the contract to accommodate our wishes. Dana's contract was this: $1000/month + 10% of sales. Very simple. Her requirements were to shoot 12 sets, per month, plus (if memory serves me correct) four 5-minute videos. Dana shot her required amount in January. At the end of January, Jeff gave Dana a $1000 check - which promply bounced. Under my advice, she contacted him and he blamed it on a bank error. Since she was leaving town and had to pay bills, I loaned her the money until Jeff "dropped off her payment". The day Dana was leaving, Jeff came by her apartment and paid her a cash sum equal to exactly $200 and said that "it was all I could get from the ATM. I will get the rest when you get back." When Dana returned, he brought her the additional $800. She was also given her percentage of sales for January

During the month of February, Dana also shot content. As Jeff posted earlier, she has completed 28 sets of photos and aledgedly 4 videos. She was issued a check for $1000 and it bounced. Some time after that, he gave her $1000 in cash. No percentage of sales was ever given to her for February

At the end of March, Dana was leaving on a trip for Germany. She contacted Jeff and asked if she could complete her March photos, so she could get paid. He ageed and she shot content She was issued a check for $1000 and the day before she left for Germany, it bounced. She was counting on that money for bills and spending money. Under my advice, again, she contacted Jeff. Again, he claimed it was a "bank error" and he would drop the check off to her mother by the coming Friday. Again, Dana borrowed the money, from her mother, and trusted Jeff's word. Jeff never showed up.

Upon returning from Germany in mid-april, Dana attempted to contact Jeff. While she had been gone, Jeff had moved and changed his phone numbers. She had no way to get in touch with him. So, she quit trying. He never called or attempted to contact her, in any way.

On June 11th, Dana posted her first post on GFY.
Dana - June 11th

She was hoping to hear from Jeff and continue with the agreement, along with being compensated for the previous bounced check.

After Jeff read the post, he called her and said some very hateful things. He acted like it was entirely her fault and acted like he had zero blame. Believing Jeff's line of bullshit again, Dana agreed to come continue her contract under the following conditions: Jeff would contact CCBill and have CCBill pay Dana directly. She would receive 50% of sales, until the money Jeff owed her was paid. At the time that this occurred, she would come back and shoot additional photos for Perfection Girls and continue on the $1000/month + 10% of sales contract that they had signed. She consulted with me, I agreed it would be fair. She agreed to this and three days later posted the following response on GFY:

Dana's 2nd post

Dana has never been compensated for the bounced check in March or the bounced check fees that Jeff is responsible for. She has never seen a single penny from CCBill, as Jeff had promised her in June, and has been very patient with him.

In December, they talked again and she agreed to go to Vegas with the intent of hoping this could all get resolved. As a final show of good faith, Jeff gave her a check for $500 - to show her his intent to pay her in full and make things right. Her naked photos and videos had been on the internet for almost a year and she had been paid a total of $2500 (less bounced check fees). I advised her against the Vegas trip, but she wanted to give Jeff one, final, chance to make things right.

Obviously, everyone knows the rest of the story. She has still only received a total of $2500 (less bounced check fees) for her work. Jeff has continually lied about this - along with everything else in life.

Jeff is nothing but a bad excuse for a pimp. He prances "his" girls around, spends money like a rock star, and doesn't pay anyone - including his affilliates - in full.

At this point, I have no comment on the CCBill/Perfection situation. It is none of our business and I frankly do not care who's responsibility it is.

Officially, Dana will have no further comments, to anyone, regarding this situation. She has been advised to remain quiet, for legal reasons.

Lastly, Jeff's post stating that him "and everyone else in Vegas" has slept with Dana (see link below) is hateful and mean. This never occurred. Dana has never, nor will ever, give Jeff that kind of pleasure. Her relationship with him was strictly business. 3rd Post Down

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Old 01-10-2004, 10:03 PM   #2
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this guy is sooo busted...some people just cant get it together no matter how hard they try
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Old 01-10-2004, 10:05 PM   #3
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At the end of January, Jeff gave Dana a $1000 check - which promply bounced.
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She was issued a check for $1000 and it bounced.
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He ageed and she shot content She was issued a check for $1000 and the day before she left for Germany, it bounced.

This guy is a class act

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Old 01-10-2004, 10:05 PM   #4
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Old 01-10-2004, 10:06 PM   #5
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Old 01-10-2004, 10:07 PM   #6
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Old 01-10-2004, 10:07 PM   #7
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This guy bounces more checks then a nerf ball.
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Old 01-10-2004, 10:09 PM   #8
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you people are too nice. One bounced check and I would have told him to go fuck himself.


Ive never bounced a check in my fucking life, its pretty easy to avoid.

If it smells like shit, it pretty much always is.
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Jeff seems to be a class act. Amazing CCBILL has not posted once to back him up. I think that speaks volumes. He is not exactly big enough to "protect".
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Shit.. dont even start...

lol

Dana, do you really want me to list them? lol Holy shit! haha!

I can name three... two of which our staff members and that just at the show. We wont talk about that wild ride back from teh players ball either.. lol Man... arnt you engauged?


Shit.. the girl is cool... when shes drunk. Now, she gets her sex buddy from a year ago to come to her defense. He' a fucktard that lives with mommy from what I remember. Go ahead kiddies.. lie away. Nice try and see you in court!
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Someone needs to post a pic of the girl from the first post and also a pic of Jeff, then I'll make my call on who's in the right.
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lol

Dana, do you really want me to list them? lol Holy shit! haha!

I can name three... two of which our staff members and that just at the show. We wont talk about that wild ride back from teh players ball either.. lol Man... arnt you engauged?


Shit.. the girl is cool... when shes drunk. Now, she gets her sex buddy from a year ago to come to her defense. He' a fucktard that lives with mommy from what I remember. Go ahead kiddies.. lie away. Nice try and see you in court!
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You always have been classless. I look forward, each and every day, to your new lies.

If you can prove that any of that post is a lie, go ahead. Otherwise, you should keep quiet. See, Dana can prove she hasn't been paid, Dana can prove the bounced checks, and your history of lies and deceit are getting you nowhere in life.

As for your personal attacks on me, I live in Farmington Hills, Michigan, by myself. I am a successful businessman, with an excellent reputation. I paid my bills to the City of Canton - don't you still have a lawsuit pending for unpaid bills to the same City??

Dana and I have always been best friends. Think what you want, but I do not have a sexual relationship with her. When people respect what you tell them, and know that you don't lie to them, they know they can trust you and your word. It's an interesting concept you do not appear to be grasping.

By the way, you should, at minimum, do a spell check when posting. Your poor spelling makes you appear unintelligent. But, then again, you are nothing but a street pimp.

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Damn it seems you are missing the opportunity to clear your name Jeff. Respond here http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showt...threadid=219356
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damn.. so.. a hot girl will suck me off and do whatever i want and make 12 sets of content a month and pay her 1,000$? where do i sign
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Old 01-10-2004, 11:29 PM   #21
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lol

Dana, do you really want me to list them? lol Holy shit! haha!

I can name three... two of which our staff members and that just at the show. We wont talk about that wild ride back from teh players ball either.. lol Man... arnt you engauged?


Shit.. the girl is cool... when shes drunk. Now, she gets her sex buddy from a year ago to come to her defense. He' a fucktard that lives with mommy from what I remember. Go ahead kiddies.. lie away. Nice try and see you in court!
You are scum.

If a girl chooses to screw the whole world it's her choice and has nothing to do with you. Remeber we are the guys selling naked pictures of them.

But bouncing a check is a No NO. You are scum. Simple as that.

If you bounce checks and don't pay girls you shoot, affiliates must have a very hard time with you.

Trust is earnt not a given thing.

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What amazes me is how Jeff keeps trying to defend himself, when it is clearly being shown over and over and over... and over again that he is a complete scumbag.
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What amazes me is how Jeff keeps trying to defend himself, when it is clearly being shown over and over and over... and over again that he is a complete scumbag.

His damage control makes things worse.. Think about it, he is a proven scumbag with a track record. His titanic is heading for icebergs, but he thinks he can avoid them.

The titanic SUNK!


The next step is reinventing himself all over again, im sure he in the process of doing that now.
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Er... ack. My Dana is getting shit on?
I don't know this whole situation is fucked up.
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Yeah, this shit is fucking stupid. Nobody should be treated this way. I always thought Perfection Cash was a great affiliate program, Scooter is a nice guy and I hold nothing against him. He is a good guy imo. But some people that I have become friends with in this industry have been affected by you and I will no longer promote Perfection Cash in any way. You can bullshit all you want, or say everyone else is bullshitting, but the truth will come out. You went from not paying some designers, to not paying your affiliates, to not paying your models. Whether its true, or not, I believe you couldve handled this a little more professional. But I guess thats just my opinion

As of today any traffic of mine being sent to Perfection Cash will be sent elsewhere.
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You are scum.

If a girl chooses to screw the whole world it's her choice and has nothing to do with you.

Damn straight!
It's high time more men realized that if they can screw 100 girls and be congratulated for it, then women can screw 100 men and be congratulated for it as well.
The old "men who sleep around are studs, women who sleep around are dirty sluts" thing is just that - old. Move into this century.
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out of all the posts to reply to and back your story up you only talk about how she really did fuck guys in vegas but didnt back yourself up at all about bouncing all those checks?
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The old "men who sleep around are studs, women who sleep around are dirty sluts" thing is just that - old. Move into this century.
its still the same, i admit that im a slut though. its just more accepted. charly is right though. that has nothing to do with the business he had involved with her.
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Up until now he was only scum at a business level, now talking shit about a girl which happens to be a model for you (was)
that's scum on a human level, and very low.
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Shit.. dont even start...
Damm man- you are a true asshole.

All I can say is your mom shoulda taken the load on the chin that one night - the world would be a MUCH better place without your punk ass.

Bouncing checks to everybody, talking shit about everybody - you are truly dicksnot.
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You are a dirty scumbag. Pay the woman!
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out of all the posts to reply to and back your story up you only talk about how she really did fuck guys in vegas but didnt back yourself up at all about bouncing all those checks?
It is great how people on GFY are finally seeing how some people act. For so long, I saw people avoid issues and no one said anything. Finally, people are stepping up and calling people on issues. This is how it should be.

Jeff..you need to hire a good PR person. If you are right or wrong, a good PR person will help you considerably...because, again right or wrong, you aren't that good at public relations.
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Is this the Dana you're talking about?

http://www.danateen.com/welcome.php
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Facts about Jeff and PerfectionCash

According to CCBill's explanation, the supposed glitch only affected accounts set to 0. PerfectionCash was set to 1. So therefore, the glitch did not affect PerfectionCash.

Jeff is claiming there's another glitch that only affected a limited amount of webmasters within a given period. This information has not been supported by anyone from CCBill.

Jeff claims only 27 webmasters who signed up between April and June were affected. However, many webmasters signed up when the threads started and saw their accounts set to one rebill as well. And if I were to compile a list of webmasters who saw it on their own accounts across the different forums, it would definetly surpass 27 webmasters.

Even if all this can be attributed to a CCBill glitch, Jeff is still not paying out bonuses as he claims to do. This has nothing to do with the glitch.

CCBill has never backed Jeff or PerfectionCash by name. CCBill has also been strangely silent when faced with questions concerning this glitch.

The amount of affiliates Jeff has constantly changes. Back in May, he claimed to have nearly 2000 affiliates. Earlier this week, he claimed 1200. Now he's claiming 900.

Shaving aside, Jeff has been proving time and again to be a scumbag. He has neglected to pay several designers for work. Over the course of several months, he has given them all the same lame excuse about wire problems. We've seen at least one model who has also heard the same excuse. Jeff, if your bank has so many problems with wires, perhaps you should switch banks or choose a different payment method.

Also, there's accusation of pedophilia and the underage, non-nude teen sites he runs and is proud of.

Let's not forget when he added someone's site to his program and then replaced to site with a full page ad to Brittany Blu (one of his sites).

Jeff always has been and always will be a lying, cheating scumbag. Be forewarned. If you want to send your traffic to him, expect to be fucked unless you can help him fuck over others.
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Old 01-11-2004, 09:43 AM   #40
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There are just too many excuses. Ultimately, the blame has to fall on the person who runs the company - that's what he is getting paid for....to take the blame and be responsible for proper fiscal management of the company.

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Old 01-11-2004, 09:50 AM   #41
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Old 01-11-2004, 10:06 AM   #42
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I don't have a dog in this race, but it appears to me, by all of the posts, that some of you are still trying to convince the readers that this Jeff guy should be avoided..

If, in the case of this thread, the girl is owed money, then any contract is void and she can demand that all of her content be pulled from the site.

And.. all affiliates can pull their links..

It's been shown in numerous threads that any affiliation is an obvious risk and not worth taking it.

Another case of, "theft of services" which can land the guy in jail until the amount owed is paid in full..

And another case of passing bad checks..

Such a track record should tell all who continue to do business.. you deserve what you get..
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Old 01-11-2004, 10:15 AM   #43
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With that said, I had a great time at the Perfection Cash Party.

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Old 01-11-2004, 10:28 AM   #44
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1 or 2 shitty things can happen to anyone but this guy has problem after problem after problem. Its pretty clear hes an asshole an someone to avoid from now on.
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=135823

Ofcourse this guy even has more history of non payments.
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There are just too many excuses. Ultimately, the blame has to fall on the person who runs the company - that's what he is getting paid for....to take the blame and be responsible for proper fiscal management of the company.

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Old 01-11-2004, 10:43 AM   #47
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Anyone who promotes any sites that Jeff is involved in is a complete and utter idiot. When there is as much negative threads about one company as Jeffs you need to permantly put it on your blacklist
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Old 01-11-2004, 10:50 AM   #48
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You are scum.

If a girl chooses to screw the whole world it's her choice and has nothing to do with you. Remeber we are the guys selling naked pictures of them.

But bouncing a check is a No NO. You are scum. Simple as that.

If you bounce checks and don't pay girls you shoot, affiliates must have a very hard time with you.

Trust is earnt not a given thing.
Thatīs really true. And if the girl wold have fucked half the world, itīs not a reason not to pay her for the shootings she did.
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Old 01-11-2004, 11:05 AM   #49
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you people are too nice. One bounced check and I would have told him to go fuck himself.


Ive never bounced a check in my fucking life, its pretty easy to avoid.

If it smells like shit, it pretty much always is.
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Old 01-11-2004, 11:18 AM   #50
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check that program off my list...i dont post here that much, dont have time to right now...will more soon, but i checked the forum at the right time, now its posted all over the internet on multiple other forums...his business is sunk...honestly is always the best medicine in my opinion...
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