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the real magoo 08-22-2004 09:29 AM

OK, so I found 6 sponsor that for some reason put me on their shitlist. Thats good to know..buy, buy traffic

Dirty F 08-22-2004 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by the real magoo
OK, so I found 6 sponsor that for some reason put me on their shitlist. Thats good to know..buy, buy traffic
Dude, check their faqs first. Frostedfaces pays per signup, not revshare. Dont accuse them of cheating.

BarneyRubble 08-22-2004 09:41 AM

Makingcoin :

I feel your pain .... I ended up taking this sponsors galleries out of my TGP after noticing them on TWO separate occasions redirecting to ANIMAL FARM SEX

I also personally know an ex-affiliate who had over 100 galleries hosted on their server (tgp.1000facials.com) who had every last one of his galleries redirected to thier 3 month/FREE DVD offer - WITHOUT his affiliate code !!! Needless to say he lost most of his partner accounts due to the redirecting.

I think this program is struggling to stay alive IMHO :(

the real magoo 08-22-2004 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Dude, check their faqs first. Frostedfaces pays per signup, not revshare. Dont accuse them of cheating.
I´m not, I´m just saying it´s set to "zero"
Maybe you are right. It should be set to zero when they pay per signup? Can you see what it says in your account?

the real magoo 08-22-2004 09:44 AM

and thats bye,bye not buy,buy :1orglaugh

AgentCash 08-22-2004 09:46 AM

Hmm... wouldn't it be possible to set it to zero rebills a few days out of the month and still get the shave on. Do it for different affiliates on different days, then set it back to unlimited.

CCBill should add a history function so you can see when & how many times it's been changed.

Makingcoin 08-22-2004 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by the real magoo
and Frosted Bucks
Frosted bucks pays 32 per signup thru ccbill. That is why the rebills are set to zero...

Frosted bucks is not doing anything wrong here!

gdog 08-22-2004 10:48 AM

Does anyone know why shaving started?

One company actaully told me that they shave to off set their charge backs and fraud.

Now when we have fraud we just cancel the account, plain and simple they lose all the money.

Now we have only cancelled about 10 accounts this year because we do jump to conclusions. But this shaving shit is BS, we all need to make a stand against it.

:ak47:

Makingcoin 08-22-2004 11:01 AM

Just talked to ccbill.. your main account is set to unlimited rebills.. so when someone signs up that is what their account is set at. My account is set to ZERO rebills. The only way this could happen is for a manual change to me or a group of affiliates.

Please explain.

Maybe you can talk to ccbill and get corvette to comment on this 'glitch' you are referring to.

exposed 08-22-2004 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by HoneLynn
I apologize for not seeing this sooner. My HD crashed and I have been dealing with that. Anyone that is having problems, please contact me via email [email protected] or ICQ 37790241 so I can look into what is going on. I am sure it is a glitch on CCbill's end. I can assure you 1000facials doesn't shave.

You sound like the scammer PerfectionJeff when you say that!

:2 cents:

SomeCreep 08-22-2004 11:07 AM

50Facials

the real magoo 08-22-2004 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Makingcoin
Frosted bucks pays 32 per signup thru ccbill. That is why the rebills are set to zero...

Frosted bucks is not doing anything wrong here!

Ok, that explains why frosted bucks and oralcash are set to zero

HoneLynn 08-22-2004 12:59 PM

I just talked to Paul, a CCbill tech, and we think what happened was some of the accounts reverted to a default setting when 1000facials did an affiliate grouping this month. Reason is because we also found some accounts that were set to 1% payout rather than 50%. We are manually going through every account one by one today and making sure all are set at 50% and unlimited rebills.

Thanks Makingcoin, for bringing this to our attention.

freeadultcontent 08-22-2004 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HoneLynn
I just talked to Paul, a CCbill tech, and we think what happened was some of the accounts reverted to a default setting when 1000facials did an affiliate grouping this month. Reason is because we also found some accounts that were set to 1% payout rather than 50%. We are manually going through every account one by one today and making sure all are set at 50% and unlimited rebills.

Thanks Makingcoin, for bringing this to our attention.

I am sorry but these types of "glitches" piss me the fuck off. Zero personal accountability and always a pass the buck off to someone else.

Unless the default setting in the affiliate admin was initially set at zero rebills, and zero trials to rebill payouts, which by the way is not the ccbill default setting. I do not see how this could happen. The only way I can forsee this is if someone set up seperate groups with no rebills or a one percent setting. Then "accidently" moved selected webmasters into the group. Why such a group would exsist is beyond me, unless said group had a PPS setting which the screen captures do not show. So I question why this "default" group even exsists.

Naturally "manually checking" every single affiliate account to make sure they are set at 50% sounds like your correcting your "glitch". Although why not adjust your default group to the proper payout percentage and move all webmasters into it with just a few clicks, then move any special deal webmasters you may have at higher payouts back into their special group?
While at this damage control stage, will you also be making good to all of these webmasters? You know pulling out your own cash and sending each of them the correct percentage of money that would of occured based on your average trial to monthly, and average monthly retention?

Yes my pissed meter is full right now, and I am not one of your affiliates. I just hate seeing CCBill being drug through the mud all of the time when I use them as my primary. This type of shit gives them a bad reputation since many may just recall "glitch - shaving - CCbill" and for get the sponsor.

Merrioc 08-22-2004 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by garce
Marrioc had asked me earlier this year about coming on board to help run the affiliate side of things, but due to other shit I had on my plate, that never panned out.

I started having problems getting into the 1000 Facials webmaster area and the free hosted galleries were a mess, so I pretty well stopped promoting them. I'm redoing a site and was going to put them on it. Guess I won't now. I'll give Porn Addict a shot instead ;)

Merrioc is a good guy, though. I didn't know that he left.

Thanx Garce, yea I left about 3 months ago, I still help Andy and honey out now and again but I am pursuing other ventures with another company now so you'll see my name on another new program in about another month still putting it all together.

I can tell you with all honesty, while I was there, Andy was always very zealous about taking good care of his webmasters, one thing for people promoting that program, don't be afraid to ask andy/hone for things I know they love to strike deals and do specail things for many webmasters (2-3 custom shoots were done for jason at vidsvidsvids)

plus I know they have a few sites right around the corner.
Also if the guy was really an asshole would I be speaking nicely about him AFTER I left the company? Lord knows I don't want my job back I'm rather happy where I am and not looking to get my job back or anything.

hmm maybe your account was turned off cause you were one of the spammers we caught, I turned off a few CCbill ID's I found that were spamming.

BarneyRubble 08-22-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
I am sorry but these types of "glitches" piss me the fuck off. Zero personal accountability and always a pass the buck off to someone else.

Unless the default setting in the affiliate admin was initially set at zero rebills, and zero trials to rebill payouts, which by the way is not the ccbill default setting. I do not see how this could happen. The only way I can forsee this is if someone set up seperate groups with no rebills or a one percent setting. Then "accidently" moved selected webmasters into the group. Why such a group would exsist is beyond me, unless said group had a PPS setting which the screen captures do not show. So I question why this "default" group even exsists.

Naturally "manually checking" every single affiliate account to make sure they are set at 50% sounds like your correcting your "glitch". Although why not adjust your default group to the proper payout percentage and move all webmasters into it with just a few clicks, then move any special deal webmasters you may have at higher payouts back into their special group?
While at this damage control stage, will you also be making good to all of these webmasters? You know pulling out your own cash and sending each of them the correct percentage of money that would of occured based on your average trial to monthly, and average monthly retention?

Yes my pissed meter is full right now, and I am not one of your affiliates. I just hate seeing CCBill being drug through the mud all of the time when I use them as my primary. This type of shit gives them a bad reputation since many may just recall "glitch - shaving - CCbill" and for get the sponsor.

Perhaps the best reply to this thread yet ....

More PPL need to wake the fuck up what is happening widespread in this industry ... and people need to start becoming accountable for thier own fuckups !! :feels-hot

Merrioc 08-22-2004 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BarneyRubble
Makingcoin :

I feel your pain .... I ended up taking this sponsors galleries out of my TGP after noticing them on TWO separate occasions redirecting to ANIMAL FARM SEX

I also personally know an ex-affiliate who had over 100 galleries hosted on their server (tgp.1000facials.com) who had every last one of his galleries redirected to thier 3 month/FREE DVD offer - WITHOUT his affiliate code !!! Needless to say he lost most of his partner accounts due to the redirecting.

I think this program is struggling to stay alive IMHO :(

thats account aka hungery man who's was posting picture gallery's and converting like crap because of his shitty designs. when the program moved servers his wasn't moved and the DVD page was the default error page (after they fixed the hack)

the animal farm sex thing you guys are talking about was a hack, someone (my speculation is the former hosting company) took and modified the httpd.conf file so that error pages of any kind went to that.

I'm gonna leave the rest of this to hone and the crew

BarneyRubble 08-22-2004 05:23 PM

it had nothing to do with error pages ..

it was the free hosted galleries that went to ANIMAL SEX FARM :(

It really does not matter to me now anyways, as I have removed them from my site.

uchase/webpry 08-22-2004 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HoneLynn
Reason is because we also found some accounts that were set to 1% payout rather than 50%.
that is what you do with house accounts.

HoneLynn 08-22-2004 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
I am sorry but these types of "glitches" piss me the fuck off. Zero personal accountability and always a pass the buck off to someone else.

Unless the default setting in the affiliate admin was initially set at zero rebills, and zero trials to rebill payouts, which by the way is not the ccbill default setting. I do not see how this could happen. The only way I can forsee this is if someone set up seperate groups with no rebills or a one percent setting. Then "accidently" moved selected webmasters into the group. Why such a group would exsist is beyond me, unless said group had a PPS setting which the screen captures do not show. So I question why this "default" group even exsists.

Naturally "manually checking" every single affiliate account to make sure they are set at 50% sounds like your correcting your "glitch". Although why not adjust your default group to the proper payout percentage and move all webmasters into it with just a few clicks, then move any special deal webmasters you may have at higher payouts back into their special group?
While at this damage control stage, will you also be making good to all of these webmasters? You know pulling out your own cash and sending each of them the correct percentage of money that would of occured based on your average trial to monthly, and average monthly retention?

Yes my pissed meter is full right now, and I am not one of your affiliates. I just hate seeing CCBill being drug through the mud all of the time when I use them as my primary. This type of shit gives them a bad reputation since many may just recall "glitch - shaving - CCbill" and for get the sponsor.

I am *not* trying to pass the buck. I just started with this company and I am making an honest effort to get answers. I apologize if it is not coming across that way. I am not trying to drag CCbill through the mud either. CCbill is a wonderful company. If I am not mistaken, I was not the first one in this thread to use the words "glitch - shaving- CCbill". If you ask CCbill, I bet they will tell you that not all programs are 100% failproof in any business. Shit happens. And going through each account manually allows us to see which accounts have the incorrect settings so that we can form a course of action for *making good* to those webmasters. I understand the frustration that some people are feeling over this. And I am doing the best that I personally, as an employee of 1000facials, can do. If anyone has any other suggestions, hit me up on ICQ or email me. I am all ears.


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