Porn4abuck is JEFF from PERFECTIONCASH

[Fukeneh]

have fun with this one guys!

[JFK]

How do you know that ?

[BradM]

Proof? I don't think that is true.. I talk to the guy and he doesn't sound like an idiot at all.

[BlueQuartz]

[SCOOTER]

Jeff

[serious]

proof is required.

[justsexxx]

Everyone knows that already for some time now...Perfectioncash went into pornkings...And so was Jeff I think

Andre

[SCOOTER]

Originally posted by BradM
Proof? I don't think that is true.. I talk to the guy and he doesn't sound like an idiot at all.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by justsexxx
Everyone knows that already for some time now...Perfectioncash went into pornkings...And so was Jeff I think

Andre

glad I never signed up for pornkings

[Fukeneh]

if you know you know.

just like scooter knows.

[eroswebmaster]

veddy interestink...interestink.

[RRACY]

Isn't PORNKINGS complicit in taking this shitwad and his worthless sites under their wing?

[JFK]

Pornkings purchased the sites thinking they could make something of them. It has nothing to do with Jeff anymore! Which means people get paid for the work they do, and so do the affiliates

[Holly]

This should be fun.

fwiw, this was discussed a week or two ago. I'm too lazy to search for it right now, but it was a thread started by Roger about the new Porn Kings version, I think. Fletch and a few other people asked him about it and if I'm remembering right, he said there was no connection. I think he said Jeff is just shooting some content, or something. Search under Roger's nic and you should be able to find it.

[RRACY]

It makes no difference who owns these sites. They were worthless then, worthless now, and will always be worthless. There isn't enough content on these sites to justify charging 99cents a month.

[ArikaAmes]

Welcome to last week!
I find it to be very obvious.

Jeff is an asshat

And Jeff, if you wanted to see the inside of my site, you didn't have to go through all the trouble to get in.


( Insert timeline pic here) - for anyone who couldn't figure that out the first day he posted here!





Sorry to everyone (except Jeff ) I'm venting

[Pornkings]

This is 2 funny

the sites in Pornkings don't have anything to do with Jeff only the sites in Perfectioncash.

I'm not going to go into detail since Its no one's business. I told everyone if they care enough to know my business they can call my #800 and speak to me directly

Other then that the sites are doing great and we are paying all our webmasters. all the sites have been redone and you have the option to promote them 3 ways

Porn4abuck- $1 trial for a full month
Free trial- 60/1 hour free trial
Paid trial - $5.99 every month

If your not converting amazing post it.

If you have a problem with Jeff don't do business with him. Its very simple

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by jimmyf
glad I never signed up for pornkings

Are you serious?

What was your excuse for not signing up before?

Whatever LMAO

BTW I like your sig LOL

[Brad Mitchell]

Jeff is an idiot a deadbeat, sure... but PornKings rocks. Now that they own the PerfectionGirls sites, everybody should be promoting them.

Brad

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Jeff is an idiot a deadbeat, sure... but PornKings rocks. Now that they own the PerfectionGirls sites, everybody should be promoting them.

Brad

Thanks alot

BTW ashley is right next to me and she's like is that 123 brad and I say yes. He is so nice....She says hello

[GTS Mark]

I don't know how Perfectiongirls didn't work out. Fuck their girls were super hot!

DH

[RRACY]

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Jeff is an idiot a deadbeat, sure... but PornKings rocks. Now that they own the PerfectionGirls sites, everybody should be promoting them.

Brad

This is quite simply a goofy statement. THESE SITES ARE WORTHLESS. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHO OWNS OR SPONSORS THEM. REDONE. The only way is to shoot all these sites over again from scratch. THIS WILL NEVER BE DONE.

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I don't know how Perfectiongirls didn't work out. Fuck their girls were super hot!

DH

Well its working out now.

[Jason]

Originally posted by Pornkings
Are you serious?

What was your excuse for not signing up before?

Whatever LMAO

BTW I like your sig LOL

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by RRACY
This is quite simply a goofy statement. THESE SITES ARE WORTHLESS. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHO OWNS OR SPONSORS THEM. REDONE. The only way is to shoot all these sites over again from scratch. THIS WILL NEVER BE DONE.

Please tell me how you know its not working out?

Like I said if your not converting Post it.

I'll always prefer Perfection over Pineapples.

[RRACY]

Originally posted by Pornkings
Please tell me how you know its not working out?

Like I said if your not converting Post it.

I'll always prefer Perfection over Pineapples.

I am familiar with his sites and know they shouldn't be available for promotion and definitely not for an unknowing surfer.

I'm not an affiliate.

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by RRACY
I am familiar with his sites and know they shouldn't be available for promotion and definitely not for an unknowing surfer.

I'm not an affiliate.

HUH???

BTW we also put all our content in as a bonus for surfers

anyway webmasters promoting us get free access so they know how much shit we have added up over 8 + years

and we will continue to add more

[calmlikeabomb]

PornKings are good people.

I am always paid on time.

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by RRACY
I am familiar with his sites and know they shouldn't be available for promotion and definitely not for an unknowing surfer.

I'm not an affiliate.

Lets have a contest to see who's sites convert better. if your on I will put something together and post it for tomorrow.

something like 10 webmasters promote both ourt sites which ever one converts the best not only gets paid but wins like $1000

who ever converts the best pays the webmaster?

the one thing I love is a challenge bring it on.......

Nothing against you but I don't think you know me to well.

I know how these sites are converting

[calmlikeabomb]

Sounds like a nice contest.

[RRACY]

Originally posted by calmlikeabomb
PornKings are good people.

I am always paid on time.

I don't know Pornkings. I know Jeff Meyers is a scumbag and produced some of the worst solo sites in history. These sites at one time made money, only because because he was sent traffic and surfers were pissed and charged back cuz the sites sucked.

[Pornkings]

I'm down for any challenge I work hard to make sure all our webmasters are happy.

all it takes is a phone call, ICQ or email and I will do my best to make sure you make the most with us .

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by RRACY
I don't know Pornkings. I know Jeff Meyers is a scumbag and produced some of the worst solo sites in history. These sites at one time made money, only because because he was sent traffic and surfers were pissed and charged back cuz the sites sucked.

Well we now run the sites in Pornkings and we added a TON of content

don't worry about recurring leave that up to us. I pay per trial infact in 3 ways. take a pick

Porn4abuck- $1 trial for a full month Pays $25
Free trial- 60/1 hour free trial Pays $25
Paid trial - $5.99 every month till the surfer cancels Pays $35

we also have console free or get your traffic back pays $20

[Pornkings]

Bump for Nite crew


Pornkings recomended for the newbie's cause its so easy to convert. LOL


Who wants to trade traffic we are making exit changes this week

[Fukeneh]

this was NEVER ment as an attack on pornkings.

i was just pointing it out to a few folks. that porn4abuck was jeff.

[Mack]

Originally posted by Pornkings
Lets have a contest to see who's sites convert better. if your on I will put something together and post it for tomorrow.

something like 10 webmasters promote both ourt sites which ever one converts the best not only gets paid but wins like $1000

who ever converts the best pays the webmaster?

the one thing I love is a challenge bring it on.......

Nothing against you but I don't think you know me to well.

I know how these sites are converting

Got quiet in here all of a sudden.

[Brad Mitchell]

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Jeff is an idiot a deadbeat, sure... but PornKings rocks. Now that they own the PerfectionGirls sites, everybody should be promoting them.

Every once in a while I do dumb things.. when I see I've made a mistake, I think it's important to exhibit some humility. I always say karma is a bitch, fully expecting that I'll never be on the 'bad' end because I work pretty hard at being fair and nice.

I don't think Jeff is an idiot, that was a flip remark. I'm above making stupid comments like that, especially in dumb dramatic threads on the boards.

The deadbeat comment, well, I know enough to know that when Jeff had the money, he paid his bills with ME to the best of his abilities. I always felt that he sincerely wanted to pay me and for me, at least, intentions do count for something. Business isn't easy and I can't say that if the guy had to choose between paying a mortgage or employees that I would have expected him to pay one of my bills instead.

.....so....

I guess I was a bit grumpy when I sat down to catch up on the boards. I had an entire day of entertaining my staff and some great clients which was fun but exhausting... but then after that, my in-laws showed up for a few hours. They were almost a total buzz kill to what was otherwise an awesome day.

Since I'm already here, I feel compelled to say the following-

On the PornKings note y'all are just poor business people if you're not taking the time to re-evaluate the product now that it's under new management. If you don't have use for promoting those niches, that's one thing. But if you're just jumping on an ignorant bandwagon and writing the sites off, that's another.

These people have always paid on time and have a stellar reputation. In large part, the adult webmaster community owes them thanks for constantly "fighting the good fight" legally where none of us has ever stepped up to the plate to protect free speech and our rights.

If they're saying that they've plugged in their regular back-end to the members areas, then that's a shit load of content for the consumers. Saying that the sites have shitty tours? Give me a break, those girls are hot and they always have been. If you want good business advice, you go to someone that's wise. These people know what they're doing, they've proven that already. So, send them some traffic and then tell everyone what you think... but don't piss in the Cheerios of one of the last standing respectible entities in our industry.

I just think it's foolish to allow such a negative view of Jeff to transcend the awesome job that PK will obviously do now that they own the sites and are managing it with the same wisdom they have the rest of their business.

That's my

Cheers

Brad

[SteveLightspeed]

Originally posted by SinEmpire
I just think it's foolish to allow such a negative view of Jeff to transcend the awesome job that PK will obviously do now that they own the sites and are managing it with the same wisdom they have the rest of their business.

That's my

Cheers

Brad

well said Brad

[p1mpdogg]

whats wrong with jimmyF's sig?

it has epic cash in it, xpays? please clarify

[SCOOTER]

My 2 cents.


I have nothing against PornKing or Perfection Girls sites.
My beef is with Jeff. I think he is a dead beat and a looser.
I have never said anything bad against Rodger or PornKing. I?m sure he is the reason I got paid.
I don?t think we should judge him poorly for buying Jeff?s Sites.
I?m Sure he got a hell of a deal. So don?t take it out on Rodger for Jeff?s Screw up, let?s take it out on the deadbeat JEFF.

[slapass]

Porn kings has one of the best conversion ratings around. Do a search for when he was asking for stats. The numbers posted are insane.

[AndrewKanuck]

Sig placement I guess

[PerfectionGirls]

I have never said anything bad against Rodger or PornKing. I?m sure he is the reason I got paid.

Scooter, please buddy. I have just been sitting back, enjoying this thread, but I finally thought I would throw in my .2 and be done with it.

Roger was NOT the reason you got paid. You were paid by me, because I owed you the money. Roger had nothing to do with it. You were paid every dime owed by Perfection Cash. Perfection Cash sold or not, you got paid. Fact of the matter is, Perfection Cash/Pornkings was not a final deal till for nearly a month after your final wire.

Scooter, you were the first paid each month every single time. We did let other issues go from time to time to make sure you go tyour money. Not your problem.... I know that. You or anyone else can ask Fletcher how important it was to me to make sure you were paid first. Many of my friends know this to be fact also. Not a big deal either, you deserved it. You did great work and I wish you could have seen your efforts through. Why you have not been sucked up by some other program is beyond me.

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As for RRACY.... take the challange bro. These sites are NOT what they used to be inside and trust me, they never sucked before. (Please note the stats below) We have shot over 20,000 pics for the Perfection Girls sites alone since March 1st. We have added 13 girls to the mega site and have 6 more ready to add now. The new site we opened is http://www.pipersplaypen.com The day it opened three weeks ago it had 24 sets of pics with 100 pics in a set. All the members area have the full pornkings bonus members areas also. Its huge. It also updates every week as do the other sites.

And RRACY.... our chargeback ratio was .56 (47 total chargeback customers) for the 24 months I ran perfectioncash. Also, we processed a whopping 86 refunds over the same two years. That was with 10,341 total sales. Are over all rebill rate was 30.40% of our total sales for the two years. Not many programs out there can say that. Im sure we could get Corvett or someone from ccbill to verify these stats. So RRACY, take the challange and put your money where your mouth is buddy. Right, you dnt know pornkings and you didnt know perfecton cash either. Dont beleive everything you read my friend.

Anyways, thats all I will be saying on this subject or any other subject that relates this old, wore out event. If you don't like me... Im cool with that. Don't do business with me. We never ever have to bother eachother. If you feel I have wronged you in some way, hit me up and lets work it out or keep being bitter and pissed. Whatever makes ya happy I guess. Meanwhile, I'm going to go to bed, get up in the morning, make some coffee and shoot hot teen models all day long.


Night all... its the last I will ever say on the subject. If you want to talk it out, hit me up on icq or give me a call.

[Easton]

Originally posted by egonetworks
Sig placement I guess

*in groundskeeper Willy's voice*

there's drama brewing down at the old well

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
whats wrong with jimmyF's sig?

it has epic cash in it, xpays? please clarify

the paris hilton stuff

and that epiccash sucks J/K
havn't seen you around these parts lately

[SCOOTER]

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Scooter, please buddy. I have just been sitting back, enjoying this thread, but I finally thought I would throw in my .2 and be done with it.

Roger was NOT the reason you got paid. You were paid by me, because I owed you the money. Roger had nothing to do with it. You were paid every dime owed by Perfection Cash. Perfection Cash sold or not, you got paid. Fact of the matter is, Perfection Cash/Pornkings was not a final deal till for nearly a month after your final wire.

Scooter, you were the first paid each month every single time. We did let other issues go from time to time to make sure you go tyour money. Not your problem.... I know that. You or anyone else can ask Fletcher how important it was to me to make sure you were paid first. Many of my friends know this to be fact also. Not a big deal either, you deserved it. You did great work and I wish you could have seen your efforts through. Why you have not been sucked up by some other program is beyond me.

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As for RRACY.... take the challange bro. These sites are NOT what they used to be inside and trust me, they never sucked before. (Please note the stats below) We have shot over 20,000 pics for the Perfection Girls sites alone since March 1st. We have added 13 girls to the mega site and have 6 more ready to add now. The new site we opened is http://www.pipersplaypen.com The day it opened three weeks ago it had 24 sets of pics with 100 pics in a set. All the members area have the full pornkings bonus members areas also. Its huge. It also updates every week as do the other sites.

And RRACY.... our chargeback ratio was .56 (47 total chargeback customers) for the 24 months I ran perfectioncash. Also, we processed a whopping 86 refunds over the same two years. That was with 10,341 total sales. Are over all rebill rate was 30.40% of our total sales for the two years. Not many programs out there can say that. Im sure we could get Corvett or someone from ccbill to verify these stats. So RRACY, take the challange and put your money where your mouth is buddy. Right, you dnt know pornkings and you didnt know perfecton cash either. Dont beleive everything you read my friend.

Anyways, thats all I will be saying on this subject or any other subject that relates this old, wore out event. If you don't like me... Im cool with that. Don't do business with me. We never ever have to bother eachother. If you feel I have wronged you in some way, hit me up and lets work it out or keep being bitter and pissed. Whatever makes ya happy I guess. Meanwhile, I'm going to go to bed, get up in the morning, make some coffee and shoot hot teen models all day long.


Night all... its the last I will ever say on the subject. If you want to talk it out, hit me up on icq or give me a call.

1st. I?m not your buddy.
2nd. You believe your lies so much you forget the real truth.

Jeff do us all a favor?? Crawl back in that Hole you were in and stay there.

[NickB.]

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I don't know how Perfectiongirls didn't work out. Fuck their girls were super hot!

DH

I was thinking the exact same thing mark

[Holly]

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
sure we could get Corvett or someone from ccbill to verify these stats.

Call me crazy, but something tells me jumping in here and talking about verifying stats with ccbill isn't exactly a smart move.

It's very late and there aren't too many people posting or lurking at this hour. If you've got any sense, you'll leave this to PK to handle and stay out of these types of threads. You showing up and making long winded posts seems like it would be very counter productive to what they're trying to do (and for you, as well).

Just my Of course, you're free to post in whatever thread you like.

[BradM]

I talked to Roger briefly and porn4abuck too.
They have their shit together and they seem to be turning these sites around.

Because it IS a tight ship with models now being paid and such... hell I'll throw a gallery or 2 up. I always liked Brittany Blu and figured it would convert.

Pornkings KICKS ass and I would NEVER say otherwise.

Jeff has nothing to do with PG now so promote the sites. You're supporting Pornkings and the models by doing so. I think it's a surefire way to cash in on single girl sites.

BradM stamped and approved. (even though that means shit all in the grand scheme of things)

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by nickbaauw
I was thinking the exact same thing mark

Because he was ripping everyone off!!

He is a scammer.