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  • European Lee
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    • Dec 2002
    • 7133

    #1

    Why Dont More Designers Have Their Own Paysites

    You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do

    Regards,

    Lee
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  • detoxed
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    • Jan 2003
    • 17798

    #2
    because they are morons

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    • WiredGuy
      Pounding Googlebot
      • Aug 2002
      • 34512

      #3
      Maybe they don't have an interest in managing paysites, at least that's my reason for not owning a paysite.

      WG
      I play with Google.

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      • BRISK
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Feb 2003
        • 12240

        #4
        Paysites are all about content, design is the easy part.
        I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
        I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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        • EscortBiz
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          • May 2002
          • 19422

          #5
          most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

          nothing nada

          I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

          some people will never learn

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          • Jdoughs
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            • Mar 2004
            • 5794

            #6
            The same reason that race car drivers dont fly planes, and carpenters arent electricians .


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            • EscortBiz
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              • May 2002
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              #7
              Originally posted by Jdoughs
              The same reason that race car drivers dont fly planes, and carpenters arent electricians .


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              • Peaches
                Old broad
                • Oct 2002
                • 13933

                #8
                IIRC, isn't FletchXXX opening a paysite?

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                • tootie
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6041

                  #9
                  I do


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                  • AdultNex
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                    • Feb 2003
                    • 8985

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EscortBiz
                    most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

                    nothing nada

                    I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

                    some people will never learn
                    Who said designers always pump out "Flashy" websites?

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                    • http
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 1811

                      #11
                      What I really wonder is why paysite operators do not design. Lensman could make tgp templates on the side and make a fortune with it

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                      • Jdoughs
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5794

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EscortBiz
                        lay down the pipe
                        Not me on the pipe...i understand why designers dont run paysites...or atleast why most dont. Like my anology above, they dont run paysites because they are designers, not program owners.
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                        • FlyingIguana
                          aspiring banker
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 10870

                          #13
                          Originally posted by European Lee
                          You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do

                          Regards,

                          Lee
                          concentrate on what you do best

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                          • EscortBiz
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                            • May 2002
                            • 19422

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AdultNex
                            Who said designers always pump out "Flashy" websites?
                            Can you read?

                            I said "Most"

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                            • The Truth Hurts
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                              • Nov 2002
                              • 15732

                              #15
                              Originally posted by European Lee
                              You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do

                              Regards,

                              Lee

                              Time, money, effort...

                              and not necessarily in that order.

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                              • fris
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                                • Aug 2002
                                • 55679

                                #16
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                                • mcmc
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                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 1705

                                  #17
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                                  • AdultNex
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                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 8985

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                    Can you read?

                                    I said "Most"
                                    Who said most? I know of about 3-4 designers that focus on Flash-based paysites.

                                    ... And who said "flashy" sites don't convert?
                                    Last edited by AdultNex; 08-21-2004, 03:07 PM.

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                                    • dennisthemenace
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 2668

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                      The same reason that race car drivers dont fly planes, and carpenters arent electricians .


                                      Do you really need to ask this question??
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                                      • The Truth Hurts
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                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 15732

                                        #20
                                        know what happens when designers try to do their own paysites....? Maximum Revenue happens : )

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                                        • BRISK
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 12240

                                          #21
                                          OK, so a designer can fire up photoshop and crank out designs all day long every day.

                                          So where is the high quality exclusive content coming from? Can they make that in photoshop too?
                                          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                          • juicylinks
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 122992

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                            lay down the pipe

                                            thats what the chicks tell me

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                                            • Reak
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 17920

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                              most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

                                              nothing nada

                                              I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

                                              some people will never learn

                                              You're right

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                                              • KRL
                                                Entrepreneur
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 31429

                                                #24
                                                Almost every designer I've met are creative types, not business types. They enjoy creating artistic work not running a business.
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                                                • The Truth Hurts
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                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 15732

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by KRL
                                                  Almost every designer I've met are creative types, not business types. They enjoy creating artistic work not running a business.
                                                  Hey look... someone finally got it right.

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                                                  • tootie
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 6041

                                                    #26
                                                    I personally love the business side AND the creative side. Not eveyone can do that, though, for sure.


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                                                    • AkiraSS
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                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                      • 2989

                                                      #27
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                                                      • Sharky
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                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                        • 4938

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                                        know what happens when designers try to do their own paysites....? Maximum Revenue happens : )
                                                        HAHAHAHAHHA! Good One!



                                                        Quite simply, time and conflict of interest.

                                                        Would you open up your business secrets to someone who is actively competing against you?
                                                        Sharky

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                                                        • European Lee
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                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 7133

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by sharky
                                                          Would you open up your business secrets to someone who is actively competing against you?
                                                          Yes i do it daily on our resource community and have turned that help into a successful business of its own ;)

                                                          Regards,

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                                                          • stocktrader23
                                                            Let's do some business.
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 18781

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by AdultNex


                                                            ... And who said "flashy" sites don't convert?
                                                            me


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                                                            • stocktrader23
                                                              Let's do some business.
                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                              • 18781

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                              most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

                                                              nothing nada

                                                              I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

                                                              some people will never learn
                                                              Amen.


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                                                              • pornstar2pac
                                                                Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 17380

                                                                #32
                                                                that's like asking, how come more drummers aren't singers?...
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                                                                • Doctor Dre
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 51692

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Paysites are a lot of work and money . Designers are mostly artist and are unorganised
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                                                                  • mardigras
                                                                    Bon temps!
                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 14194

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Some people are artists
                                                                    Some people are salesmen
                                                                    With some people
                                                                    Never the twain shall meet
                                                                    .

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                                                                    • mammy
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 2279

                                                                      #35
                                                                      paysites main thing not in design and content
                                                                      designer of course can buy content like other people too ;)

                                                                      thing is in managment and marketing
                                                                      not all designers have enough skills to generate traffic

                                                                      million dollars for paysite design


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                                                                      • Roald
                                                                        SecretFriends.com
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 27910

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Because opening up phostoshop and create a design is totally diffrent than create the design, get the content, manage the site, manage affiliates, update the site, manage payments, etc etc

                                                                        I am working on it though as I think someone need to expand and look a bit further than photoshop

                                                                        Btw Bruno is running a paysite and Dickmansdesign


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                                                                        • Roald
                                                                          SecretFriends.com
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 27910

                                                                          #37
                                                                          btw I totally dislike the ideas some people have about designers in this threat


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                                                                          • dirtydesignz
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                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                            • 1815

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I do
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                                                                            • mind
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                                                                              • Apr 2004
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                              You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do

                                                                              Regards,

                                                                              Lee
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                                                                              • Manowar
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                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                • 71528

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                                OK, so a designer can fire up photoshop and crank out designs all day long every day.

                                                                                So where is the high quality exclusive content coming from? Can they make that in photoshop too?
                                                                                maybe do some 3d or cartoon content ?

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                                                                                • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 9492

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Yo Lee.. hit me up man.. lets get that site of your finished

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                                                                                  • MichaelP
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                    • 7124

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                    Almost every designer I've met are creative types, not business types. They enjoy creating artistic work not running a business.
                                                                                    EXACTLY

                                                                                    Mysef I am a designer. I know that sites I do for customers convert. Why? cause they also have good traffic...

                                                                                    Actually I am not a traffic guy, I am an artist. PERIOD.

                                                                                    You can't be excellent at everything anyway

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                                                                                    • Orga
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                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 608

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Huh . Paysite design is just
                                                                                      Why programmers don't write own OS ?

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                                                                                      • Sharky
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                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                        • 4938

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                        Yes i do it daily on our resource community and have turned that help into a successful business of its own ;)

                                                                                        Regards,

                                                                                        Lee
                                                                                        You are one of the few still doing it. lol. and admit, you don't give away ALL your secrets!
                                                                                        Sharky

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                                                                                        • European Lee
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 7133

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by sharky
                                                                                          You are one of the few still doing it. lol. and admit, you don't give away ALL your secrets!
                                                                                          If im asked i do ;)

                                                                                          But it asking the right questions that many webmasters dont understand ;)

                                                                                          Regards,

                                                                                          Lee
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                                                                                          • Jakke PNG
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                                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                                            • 20306

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by qwebecexpo

                                                                                            You can't be excellent at everything anyway
                                                                                            I am.
                                                                                            ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                            • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 9492

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
                                                                                              Yo Lee.. hit me up man.. lets get that site of your finished
                                                                                              bump... shoot me an email Lee.. lets get the European Webmasters site sorted

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