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jonesy 08-20-2004 06:38 PM

50 EXPERTS !

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
yea but the IP address

IP Address: 64.71.165.210 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: - California - Valencia - The Bteg Network

i think that info is wrong

this 62.250.2.2 is for NS.VUURWERK.NL

teenoffice 08-20-2004 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DatingGold
move your server to france and put all the whois info in French.

problem solved.

year right :1orglaugh

DatingGold 08-20-2004 06:47 PM

"(4) Producer does not include persons whose activities relating to
the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are limited to
the following:
(i) Photo processing;
(ii) Mere distribution;
(iii) Any activity, other than those activities identified in
paragraphs (c)(1) and (2) of this section, that does not involve the
hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the
participation of the depicted performers;
(iv) A provider of Web-hosting services who does not manage the
content of the computer site or service; or
(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote
computing service who does not manage the content of the computer site
or service."

ii. mere distribution

you will never go to jail unless you actually produced the CP or knowingly distributed it. :2 cents:

DatingGold 08-20-2004 06:55 PM

also...


"but does not include mere distribution or any other activity which does not involve hiring, contracting for[,] managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the performers depicted.''

MattK 08-20-2004 06:57 PM

I'm swtiching to text only descriptions...

Halo18 08-20-2004 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
I'm not doing shit...Come and get me mofos :BangBang:
That's what I like to hear.

Strife 08-20-2004 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hy777
Here is a fully compliant one.

Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPi...niverse.ht ml


got me

good one :1orglaugh

FightThisPatent 08-20-2004 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrIzzz
someone please sum up and give me the cliff-notes of the effects of 2257 on thumb and text TGPs come august 24th.



There is a section on TGP in my 2257 summary:

http://www.2257lookup.com/2257Summary.html



-brandon

bdld 08-21-2004 12:54 AM

its unclear how to competely comply.
whether you live in the states but have a server hosted elsewhere, that may not protect you.
or what about hotlinking content from a sponsor.. that may not protect you since you control the html and are placing the img tags in there.

MrIzzz 08-21-2004 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
that is no where near compliant for the new law and in reality that's what you should already have on your site. If you don't have that on your site now you are already in violation of the current 2257, technically speaking. So you better hurry up and move

:1orglaugh

From what I see in the new law.. it's not a lot of physical things that need changed to the sites themselves.. But most are changes to the amount of records you have at your place of business.

For example on your webpages, you will have to have your full business contact info right their on the main page (this will be your place of business and location of the 2257 records)

You don't have to provid links to models ID's on the web however you are supposed have on file (either paper or digital) records for all sexually explicit content hosted on your server(s).

So a text site should be exempt if you only link to sponsor hosted or submitted galleries that have 2257 info. Thumbs however are the tough one.. as long as they are not sexually explicit you shouldn't need a 2257 (2256 tells you what is considered sexually explicit)
But for any thumbs that are sexually explicit you will have to have on file the proper 2257 info.

there is also something about having link information about everywhere that content is used, on the web.. That IMO won't affect TGP owners a lot, but could be a nightmare for program owners, content producers and gallery submitters. I haven't looked into that part as much because it dosen't affect me that much.


Anyway that's what I get from reading the proposed law and listening to a few lawyers..

btw MrIZZ hit me up on ICQ we need to start a trade
:) 203838 or let me know your ICQ

thanks for the info crockett,

329613811

i'm not taking any trades at the moment but i have something in mind in a little bit that i will hit you up on:thumbsup

AdultNex 08-21-2004 08:48 AM

Bump... Noone has mentioned what to do for thumb TGPs regarding the new 2257 law.

Can someone give a concise, clear, and simple method on how to comply?

http 08-21-2004 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
that is no where near compliant for the new law and in reality that's what you should already have on your site. If you don't have that on your site now you are already in violation of the current 2257, technically speaking. So you better hurry up and move

:1orglaugh

From what I see in the new law.. it's not a lot of physical things that need changed to the sites themselves.. But most are changes to the amount of records you have at your place of business.

For example on your webpages, you will have to have your full business contact info right their on the main page (this will be your place of business and location of the 2257 records)

You don't have to provid links to models ID's on the web however you are supposed have on file (either paper or digital) records for all sexually explicit content hosted on your server(s).

So a text site should be exempt if you only link to sponsor hosted or submitted galleries that have 2257 info. Thumbs however are the tough one.. as long as they are not sexually explicit you shouldn't need a 2257 (2256 tells you what is considered sexually explicit)
But for any thumbs that are sexually explicit you will have to have on file the proper 2257 info.

there is also something about having link information about everywhere that content is used, on the web.. That IMO won't affect TGP owners a lot, but could be a nightmare for program owners, content producers and gallery submitters. I haven't looked into that part as much because it dosen't affect me that much.


Anyway that's what I get from reading the proposed law and listening to a few lawyers..

btw MrIZZ hit me up on ICQ we need to start a trade
:) 203838 or let me know your ICQ

You made sense untill you said

"...if you only link to sponsor hosted or submitted galleries that have 2257 info..."

zdwebber 08-21-2004 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
Bump... Noone has mentioned what to do for thumb TGPs regarding the new 2257 law.

Can someone give a concise, clear, and simple method on how to comply?

There is mass confusion right now. No one knows.
Wait till the 28th or whatever, and a lot more will be cleared up.

Reak 08-21-2004 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
yea but the IP address

IP Address: 64.71.165.210 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: - California - Valencia - The Bteg Network

I saw that.

AdultNex 08-21-2004 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zdwebber
There is mass confusion right now. No one knows.
Wait till the 28th or whatever, and a lot more will be cleared up.

I figured so, I'm just totally confused now. :(

Reak 08-21-2004 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jonesy
50 EXPERTS !



i think that info is wrong

this 62.250.2.2 is for NS.VUURWERK.NL

What he said.

cosis 08-21-2004 10:16 AM

im waiting until the 28th, hopefully there will be a bunch of programs released to make changing your gallery pages quickly with the 2257 info


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