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  • KRL
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    Broward County Sheriff Killed During Kiddie Porn Raid

    1 BSO Deputy Killed, 1 Wounded in Lauderdale Kiddie Porn Raid

    FORT LAUDERDALE ? One Broward Sheriff's Office deputy was killed and another wounded while working with a kiddie porn task force trying to serve a search warrant Thursday morning. A suspect is in custody, police and Fire Rescue officials said.

    The shot officers were rushed to nearby North Broward Medical Center under a police escort. A section of Northeast 62nd Street and rush-hour Interstate 95 were shut down to traffic for the ambulances.

    Stephen McInerny, division Fire Rescue chief for Fort Lauderdale, said a 31-year-old male deputy was pronounced dead shortly after he was brought into the North Broward hospital.

    BSO spokesman Jim Leljedal said he was told the wounded deputy's wounds are hoped to be non-life threatening.

    The shootings occurred at a home at 1950 NE 57 St. shortly after 8 a.m. during a raid by a special multi-force police task force. Ten to 15 officers were reported in the task force serving a search warrant as part of a kiddie porn investigation. The target reportedly was a suspected pedophile.

    One neighbor said they heard six to eight shots fired. Another said she only heard five shots, got curious as to what was happening and walked around the corner to see police putting a hand-cuffed and leg-shackled man into a patrol car.

    "He had an ugly smirk" on his face, said Arlene Marcus, "like he was proud of what he just did."

    Leljedal said the Law Enforcement Against Child Harm task force was involved in a kiddie porn investigation and went to the home around 8:20 a.m. to serve the search warrant. He said it was not yet clear what happened, but he said someone in the house opened up on the law officers with a high-powered weapon.

    At this point, Leljedal said he doesn't think deputies returned fire. He said other task force officers quickly caught the suspected gunman and arrested him.


    That dude is going to get seriously ass fucked in jail.
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  • pornstar2pac
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    • Nov 2003
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    #2
    that sucks, heart goes out to the sheriff's family
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    • Trixxxia
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      #3
      Sad about the cop that died & the one wounded.

      That other guy deserves to suffer a very slow & cruel death.

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      • Fletch XXX
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        • Jan 2002
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        #4
        i call bullshit, what about the raid? always gotta be *kiddie porn* i think they say this for headlines

        did they find child porn or is this just another pigs way of looking good?

        note more info on the dead cop than the raid he was doing.
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        • Manowar
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          • Dec 2003
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          #5
          So a peado and a murderer, i guess he'll be rotting in jail for a long time to come

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          • jimmyf
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            #6
            god dam crazy people,

            like he's going 2 win a shoot out, stupid hope the cock sucker fry's
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            • candyflip
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              #7
              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
              i call bullshit, what about the raid?

              did they find child porn or is this just another pigs way of looking good?

              note more info on the dead cop than the raid he was doing.
              You know we'll never get the full details.

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              • jimmyf
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                #8
                Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                i call bullshit, what about the raid?

                did they find child porn or is this just another pigs way of looking good?

                note more info on the dead cop than the raid he was doing.

                might be, they better hope there was child porn there.

                what would be really bad is if they had the wrong house.
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                • Spunky
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                  #9
                  Crazy fucks will get theirs in jail

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                  • Cassie
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                    i call bullshit, what about the raid? always gotta be *kiddie porn* i think they say this for headlines

                    did they find child porn or is this just another pigs way of looking good?

                    note more info on the dead cop than the raid he was doing.
                    do you realize every reply you have made (or i should say more then half) in the last month you have called bullshit on.

                    i would have to say i have not heard of one false cp raid/arrest that hasn't been warranted within the last couple of years (then again i don't read every piece of news out there). from celebs to common people; they should execute the person on the spot for knowingly producing/selling or viewing cp. this is where i feel the laws are backwards but in some cases innocent until proven guilty is a benefit.....
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                    • Rochard
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                      #11
                      I can't believe anyone would shoot at a police officer.
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                      • Fletch XXX
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cassie
                        do you realize every reply you have made (or i should say more then half) in the last month you have called bullshit on.
                        do you realize every reply i have made in the last month has been just bullshit itself?

                        oh i forget many of you come here because there is nothing else.

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                        • Fletch XXX
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by RocHard
                          I can't believe anyone would shoot at a police officer.
                          oh i can think of hundred of reasons to shoot a cop.

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                          • Cassie
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fletch XXX


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                            • Trixie
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by jimmyf
                              might be, they better hope there was child porn there.

                              what would be really bad is if they had the wrong house.
                              No one has to hope it's there, all they have to do is plant it.
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                              • korzon
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                                #16
                                damn that's sad

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                                • scoreman
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                                  #17
                                  BSO and Corrections know their inmates well. They know which inmates hate pedophiles, which inmates are the ones who are most likely to rape another inmate and where are the danger spots in the jail to get raped. I believe they will be using that knowledge in dealing with this cop killing pedophile.

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                                  • goBigtime
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jimmyf
                                    might be, they better hope there was child porn there.

                                    what would be really bad is if they had the wrong house.

                                    If there wasn't, there is now.

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                                    • crockett
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                                      • May 2003
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                                      #19
                                      damn man, guess the kiddie porn guys are packing some heat...


                                      one thing to think about though.. I know if I was asleep and someone came busting in my place I'd probably shoot back too.. I know they want to catch them by surprise but man they kinda have to expect, if someone is unaware of whats going down.. He might just shoot back.. specially after that shit in Deltona last week thats been plastered all over the news..
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                                      • taboo_dude
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
                                        Sad about the cop that died & the one wounded.

                                        That other guy deserves to suffer a very slow & cruel death.
                                        here here, I second that. I wish we brought back cruel and unsual for the pedos and child abusers. I am serious as a heart attack.
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                                        • freeadultcontent
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RocHard
                                          I can't believe anyone would shoot at a police officer.
                                          If I am asleep and or caught off guard with people rushing into my house, armed and not wearing VERY easily identifiable police uniforms (all black does not cut it) at the very least, with out so much as knocking or announcing they are police. I could see how I could think the worse and shoot.

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                                          • Fletch XXX
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by crockett
                                            damn man, guess the kiddie porn guys are packing some heat...


                                            one thing to think about though.. I know if I was asleep and someone came busting in my place I'd probably shoot back too.. I know they want to catch them by surprise but man they kinda have to expect, if someone is unaware of whats going down.. He might just shoot back.. specially after that shit in Deltona last week thats been plastered all over the news..
                                            my pad is set up to where you will go through a few sets of doors to get to the hall i am in, no way in hell i wont hear you with the dog plus i am very lite sleeper, and i sleep with a shotgun ready arms reach.

                                            where im from, people break in your house going "police officers open up"

                                            better call first.

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                                            • xxxoutsourcing
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                                              #23
                                              Yikes

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                                              • Meta Ridley
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                                                #24
                                                Some of you people are fucking idiots. But we knew that already.
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                                                • Doctor Dre
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                                                  Ass fucked you say ??? More like killed by a slow painfull death WHILE getting ass fucked and cum in the nose
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                                                  • ldinternet
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                                                    #26
                                                    Anyone can shout "police" and come running into a house. They shouldn't be shocked when they go bursting in at 8AM... then get shot at.

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                                                    • Mr.Fiction
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Manowar
                                                      So a peado and a murderer, i guess he'll be rotting in jail for a long time to come
                                                      Not sure where you are, but we usually have trials in America first.

                                                      Anyone else remember the Mike Jones case?

                                                      Would all of you be hoping that he rot in jail and get raped just because the right wing local government claimed he had child porn?
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                                                      • ldinternet
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                        Not sure where you are, but we usually have trials in America first.
                                                        Must be from the UK. One time I asked a British girl out... within 10 minutes there were crowds of vigilantes roaming the streets, chanting "lynch him, lynch him"

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                                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                          Anyone else remember the Mike Jones case?
                                                          everyone on the board should read this shit

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                                                          • nofx
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                                                            #30
                                                            "one dead cop
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                                                            might make the hurting stop"


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                                                            • SykkBoy2
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                              Not sure where you are, but we usually have trials in America first.

                                                              Anyone else remember the Mike Jones case?

                                                              Would all of you be hoping that he rot in jail and get raped just because the right wing local government claimed he had child porn?
                                                              exactly
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                                                              • Phoenix
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                                                                #32
                                                                while i dont want to side with the cp person


                                                                i have to agree, with the police being out of line. Guns are legal in the states, so be more careful, dont just barge into a house. i know some people who go into drug dealers homes screaming police...they even have all the uniforms..after everyone is handcuffed they usually laugh about it..count all their money and dope and then leave with it all

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                                                                • Fletch XXX
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  cops are never wrong they are gods angels here to protect and serve even us atheists

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                                                                  • crockett
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                    Not sure where you are, but we usually have trials in America first.

                                                                    Anyone else remember the Mike Jones case?

                                                                    Would all of you be hoping that he rot in jail and get raped just because the right wing local government claimed he had child porn?
                                                                    yea that's what my first thought was, they better have a pretty damn good reason that it required them to bust into this guys house at 8 am instead of just waiting till he left his house or simply just knocked on his door.

                                                                    Hell if this guys would have been a CEO for a major company, the cops would have called ahead and probally sent him a limo to turn himself in..
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                                                                    • Fletch XXX
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      A Harlem woman died of a heart attack after police hurled a flash grenade into her apartment during a mistaken raid yesterday morning.

                                                                      http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...2p-77145c.html

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                                                                      • DarkJedi
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                        A Harlem woman died of a heart attack after police hurled a flash grenade into her apartment during a mistaken raid yesterday morning.

                                                                        http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...2p-77145c.html

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                                                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          On Friday, Harvey Police Chief Philip Hardiman confirmed that Ford's home was mistakenly raided during an investigation by his department. "We make out search warrants when we get information from drug informants," he said. "Sometimes they give us incorrect information, and warrants are made out for one house when we're really looking for the house next door.

                                                                          "I think that's what happened here," he said. "That happens from time to time in any police department."

                                                                          Hardiman defended his officers, who were working with a special drug unit of the State Police.

                                                                          When asked if the department would apologize to Ford, Hardiman replied. "I don't know if we'd apologize. It's not unusual for that to happen sometimes, but I will say it doesn't happen that often."

                                                                          Hardiman said he does not know when officers realized they were at the wrong address, but said the department would pay for damage to Ford's home.

                                                                          "I know they realized that there were no drugs there," he said.

                                                                          Ford said the experience was terrifying, and that officers refused to show her the warrant.

                                                                          "It was hard seeing my son sitting in his room on the bed in handcuffs," she said. "He's 13, and they wouldn't let me talk to him. ... "

                                                                          "I asked both of my kids if they wanted to stay home from school [Friday] because of the raid," she said. "They both went to school. They're afraid to be here."

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                                                                          • DWB
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by crockett
                                                                            one thing to think about though.. I know if I was asleep and someone came busting in my place I'd probably shoot back too.. I know they want to catch them by surprise but man they kinda have to expect, if someone is unaware of whats going down.. He might just shoot back..
                                                                            Ditto. Bust into my place any time day or night, and if I'm not taking a shower or taking a shit, I'll be squeezing my trigger down the hallway towards the door.

                                                                            I live on the Ohio / Kentucky border... (in a very hillbilly area) Everyone here has guns, everyone will shoot an intruder without thinking twice and just about everyone would walk out with a smug on their face if they dropped a cop in the process. Hell, my red neck neighbors would probably rush in to my aid right behind the police and shoot them from the back.

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                                                                            • wdsguy
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                              Ditto. Bust into my place any time day or night, and if I'm not taking a shower or taking a shit, I'll be squeezing my trigger down the hallway towards the door.

                                                                              I live on the Ohio / Kentucky border... (in a very hillbilly area) Everyone here has guns, everyone will shoot an intruder without thinking twice and just about everyone would walk out with a smug on their face if they dropped a cop in the process. Hell, my red neck neighbors would probably rush in to my aid right behind the police and shoot them from the back.

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                                                                              • scoreman
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Some more info on this story is on the sunsentinel newspaper website:

                                                                                Thursday morning officers knocked on the door. They tried to get Wilk to come outside to receive the warrant, but he refused, Jenne said. Shots were fired in the house by the suspect, who was armed with a high-powered weapon, Jenne said.

                                                                                ``Mr. Wilk had several weapons, several high-caliber weapons around the house,'' Jenne said.

                                                                                One shot pierced Deputy Fatta's bullet-proof vest, ultimately killing him.

                                                                                Other officers returned fire at Wilk. He was not injured, Jenne said. But the suspect gunman was quickly caught and taken into custody. No one else was in the house.

                                                                                Police have been to the Wilk's home at least two times in the past two years. Last year, a child porn warrant was issued at the home in the residential neighborhood, at which point Wilk threatened officers and was arrested. Last month, another warrant was served and Wilk's roommate, registered sex offender Kelly Ray Jones, was arrested on charges of using the Internet to send illicit images of children to an undercover detective. He remains in federal custody.

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                                                                                This certainly doesnt sound like a good case for the "Gee the police barged right in and I shot because I thought I was being robbed" defense.
                                                                                Last edited by scoreman; 08-19-2004, 01:09 PM.

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                                                                                  CP rocks

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                                                                                  • Elli
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    My favourite is when they kill the dog by "accident". Happens all the time, apparently. Even neighbours' dogs.

                                                                                    I thought it was in the wording of the search warrant that it had to be served at a time when the person was expected to be home and during normal waking hours. It wasn't an arrest warrant after all, just a search warrant.
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                                                                                    • Elli
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by scoreman
                                                                                      Some more info on this story is on the sunsentinel newspaper website:

                                                                                      Thursday morning officers knocked on the door. They tried to get Wilk to come outside to receive the warrant, but he refused, Jenne said. Shots were fired in the house by the suspect, who was armed with a high-powered weapon, Jenne said.

                                                                                      ``Mr. Wilk had several weapons, several high-caliber weapons around the house,'' Jenne said.

                                                                                      One shot pierced Deputy Fatta's bullet-proof vest, ultimately killing him.

                                                                                      Other officers returned fire at Wilk. He was not injured, Jenne said. But the suspect gunman was quickly caught and taken into custody. No one else was in the house.

                                                                                      Police have been to the Wilk's home at least two times in the past two years. Last year, a child porn warrant was issued at the home in the residential neighborhood, at which point Wilk threatened officers and was arrested. Last month, another warrant was served and Wilk's roommate, registered sex offender Kelly Ray Jones, was arrested on charges of using the Internet to send illicit images of children to an undercover detective. He remains in federal custody.

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                                                                                      This certainly doesnt sound like a good case for the "Gee the police barged right in and I shot because I thought I was being robbed" defense.
                                                                                      Ok, never mind. He's a baddie.
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                                                                                      • C_U_Next_Tuesday
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        wow..pedofiles are into firearms these days.. and I always thought they came off as the sweet middle aged guy next door that loves to have all the kids to his house for -Kool-aid and cookies

                                                                                        crazy shit is always happening

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                                                                                        • kristin
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          So he was in deep shit for kiddie porn and now he shot a cop ... he's a smart cookie. : )
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                                                                                            • webseth
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              i'm glad he put up a fucking fight. i'm sure lots of us know how it feels to have the police violate our property, car, person, or home. its awful.
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                Anyone else remember the Mike Jones case?

                                                                                                Would all of you be hoping that he rot in jail and get raped just because the right wing local government claimed he had child porn?
                                                                                                Oh yea. No shit. But in my book, Mikey is first class. That was nothing more than a setup, because his neighbors found out what he did for a living, and even though 100% legal, and THIS IS AMERICA, they picked and prodded the locals until something had to break.

                                                                                                Too bad that something was almost his wife and family.

                                                                                                They busted into his house while he was away, cornered his kids until they were in tears, and asked his young daughter if her daddy made her "do things".

                                                                                                I think I would have shot someone for THAT.

                                                                                                This and that are 2 different, very different (at least, appear to be) .. things.

                                                                                                Yes, trials first. If he's guilty, hang him in public, on TV, on the courthouse lawn at noon.

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                                                                                                • KRL
                                                                                                  Entrepreneur
                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 31429

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
                                                                                                  Oh yea. No shit. But in my book, Mikey is first class. That was nothing more than a setup, because his neighbors found out what he did for a living, and even though 100% legal, and THIS IS AMERICA, they picked and prodded the locals until something had to break.

                                                                                                  Too bad that something was almost his wife and family.

                                                                                                  They busted into his house while he was away, cornered his kids until they were in tears, and asked his young daughter if her daddy made her "do things".

                                                                                                  I think I would have shot someone for THAT.

                                                                                                  This and that are 2 different, very different (at least, appear to be) .. things.

                                                                                                  Yes, trials first. If he's guilty, hang him in public, on TV, on the courthouse lawn at noon.

                                                                                                  AST
                                                                                                  The cops seriously asked the guy's little girl if Daddy made her do things?

                                                                                                  Fuck, that's sicko in and of itself to ask a little kid.

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                                                                                                  • Webby
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                    • 14956

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    There is a well-known case... if I can remember the name! *g* hell.. don't matter!

                                                                                                    This involved a US citizen who had "interests" in several countries and banking globally, in particular, in Switzerland. There is a question of this guy paying due taxes.

                                                                                                    First the US approached the Swiss bank and ask them to open the account. They obviously refused.

                                                                                                    Six months later they came back again and made the request, but this time submitted "evidence" that their potential "perp" was a drug dealer, committed sexual offences against children, and traded in arms.

                                                                                                    After consideration the bank opened his account to US authorities.

                                                                                                    Along comes a trial date and the Swiss bank have representatives in court waiting to hear the full story of their client's activities..... they waited...

                                                                                                    Contrary to what the bank had been told, there were no drug/pedo/arms offences, but their client was convicted of tax evasion based on their "evidence" of the account. They had been lied to.

                                                                                                    Since then Swiss banks refused to speak to any US authority calling with similar claims.
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