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Dawgy 08-19-2004 06:26 PM

most of the content producers we buy from are refusing to give us the unaltered documents... what good is the model ID if everything is blurred out except the picture & birthday? lol

Adult Site Traffic 08-19-2004 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
most of the content producers we buy from are refusing to give us the unaltered documents... what good is the model ID if everything is blurred out except the picture & birthday? lol
Mine give me the Docs.

However, either make them, or don't do business with them.
I don't need the model's phone number etc, nor do I want it, but some stuff is pertinent.

Eventually, they'll have to comply or quit, just like everyone else.

groark 08-19-2004 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fabien
Get the fuck out of your country :2 cents:
(i would do it if i were you ):winkwink:


J.R. 08-19-2004 07:25 PM

We are burning all of records onto CD
for our webmasters to use.

We will block specific information pertaining
to the models privacy information.

If they (US) don't like it, they can GFY!

Halcyon 08-19-2004 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
This is the way to go.. paysites and content producers all feel that hardcore images should not be used because it takes awy from the surfer turning into a member to pay to see the hardcore stuff.


When you say SOFTCORE, be sure that that images are not

1) showing masturbation (which requires 2257)
2) VERY young looking models


While non-sexually explicit pictures of very young looking models do not require 2257, you could trigger a CP inquiry as another way of shutting you down.

Attorneys have the position that you should treat every nude image with 2257 gloves on to be 100% safe. The problem with that is affiliates or free sites (who don't license content), is that they don't have access to 2257 records.


Here are some ways to look at things from a business perspective (and to protect yourself legally).


1) If the sponsor has a license to distribute "softcore" images to affiliates, use them as long as they don't include points #1 and #2 above.


2) License your own content, of the same content used by the sponsor, so that you can CAN display some hardcore images, but since you licensed it from the Content Producer, you would have your 2257 info. (some sites like sleazydream.com license content to show on the website, where others grab thumbnails from the site they are linking to, and don't have a license nor 2257 info).

This option means you paying money for content. Image sets run as low as $20, and you can legally display those "hardcore" images now.

If you are making money, you are running a business.. and businesses have expenses.... so purchasing/licensing content should not be a foreign concept.


Going overseas is not the answer, unless you completely go overseas. This means, no US hosting, no US-based credit card processor, no assets in the US. You would have to pick up and move to another country and be completely disconnected from the US. Going to Europe is not the escape place since EU is tightening up its laws, and as with Germany, some countries are very strict. You will end up going to some really off-shore locations like vanatu or isle of man, etc.



-brandon

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That post was a flash of fucking brilliance. The author of this post has earned $20 from FLASHCA$H and our eternal gratitude for making time spent on the boards more worth while. THANK YOU!

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FightThisPatent 08-19-2004 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halcyon
That post was a flash of fucking brilliance. The author of this post has earned $20 from FLASHCA$H and our eternal gratitude for making time spent on the boards more worth while. THANK YOU!

Email [email protected] or ICQ 261-416-675 to arrange for your cash.
http://www.flashoffuckingbrilliance.com


heya hal, you weren't kidding about that flash of fucking brilliance thing..... and it was your 1,000th post too.


Fight the Don't Spend it all in one place!

Halcyon 08-19-2004 07:35 PM

well, lookie there. Spent my 1000th to give you props. Well worth it. (sending you an ICQ to arrange your $$)

Slick 08-20-2004 06:49 AM

Bump for a great post :)

Sarah_Jayne 08-20-2004 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
Mine give me the Docs.

However, either make them, or don't do business with them.
I don't need the model's phone number etc, nor do I want it, but some stuff is pertinent.

Eventually, they'll have to comply or quit, just like everyone else.


It doesn't much help you though if you have already bought it years ago in good faith and now have to face taking it all down.

FlyingIguana 08-20-2004 07:27 AM

don't worry, if you cover your eyes it'll all go away

tonsoffun 08-20-2004 07:37 AM

2257

because of similiar laws in europe we run an offshore facility for many european websites-webmasters
anyone affected by that law in america contact us we will be glad to help

tiger entertainment

hy777 08-20-2004 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tonsoffun
2257

because of similiar laws in europe we run an offshore facility for many european websites-webmasters
anyone affected by that law in america contact us we will be glad to help

tiger entertainment

Offshore does NOT help. If you are an american webmaster and they catch you, you can host in the moon and will still be cooked.


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