ND account suspended for fraud & copyright infringement... WTF?! - GoFuckYourself.com

Nate-MM2 · 08-17-2004, 10:07 PM

Just wondering if anybody else has had this problem... and YES I have e-mailed them already!

Just making sure it isn't epidemic...

We regret to inform you that your account has been flagged for potential fraud by our fraud department. Please provide us with as much information regarding your traffic. Where is your traffic coming from? How are you promoting? The more information the better, so we can properly investigate your account.

Your account has been suspended while we investigate further. Also, we noticed that you are using other people?s content to promote our sites. We do not allow this type of promotion as it infringes on other people?s copyrights. Secondly, they are not models inside the member?s area, which deceives the user thereby increasing the chances that they will cancel the membership and not tell their friends.

Mo

Nasty Dollars Support Team

We're here to help!

brizzad · 08-17-2004, 10:08 PM

they're there to help

Fletch XXX · 08-17-2004, 10:08 PM

you cant use purachased content to push Nasty Dollars sites?

roh roh

pornstar2pac · 08-17-2004, 10:09 PM

got to read each sponsor's TOS or else you'll get an email like this

brizzad · 08-17-2004, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
you cant use purachased content to push Nasty Dollars sites?

roh roh

i met the voice of scooby doo.. he owns an ice cream shop 10 mins away

fr8 · 08-17-2004, 10:11 PM

Hopefully you will be able to get it resolved soon.

Nate-MM2 · 08-17-2004, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
got to read each sponsor's TOS or else you'll get an email like this

Been at this for roughly 8 years now... have never had a problem.

pornstar2pac · 08-17-2004, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate-MM2
Been at this for roughly 8 years now... have never had a problem.

that sucks then. I bet you have made them lots of money too.

Fletch XXX · 08-17-2004, 10:14 PM

can anyone link the ND TOS?

there is not one on the site

Fletch XXX · 08-17-2004, 10:16 PM

founds it

http://nastydollars.com/terms.htm?wm_refer=

i was blind for a minute

Nate-MM2 · 08-17-2004, 10:27 PM

And the email headers look legit to me... so I'm guessing it's not somebody trying to figure out how I get traffic to my sites.

Don't feel that i've violated any of the TOS.

Trent Edison · 08-17-2004, 10:35 PM

This sucks. I hope you wont lose your money....

xxxjay · 08-17-2004, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison
This sucks. I hope you wont lose your money....

All 35$ of it? Say it ain't so!

Nate-MM2 · 08-17-2004, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison
This sucks. I hope you wont lose your money....

Not too worried... I'd assume it will get resolved, and if it doesn't I'm only out $490, not the end of the world but since I only promote them on my older sites it can be a pain in the ass to swap out the older static banners....

Bill8 · 08-17-2004, 11:24 PM

They've done it before, so assume it's legit.

This part is relatively new.

"Also, we noticed that you are using other people?s content to promote our sites. We do not allow this type of promotion as it infringes on other people?s copyrights. Secondly, they are not models inside the member?s area, which deceives the user thereby increasing the chances that they will cancel the membership and not tell their friends."

Can't say that I've seen that particular clause posted publicly before.

I've seen planty of pages using purchased content to sell nd.

Nate-MM2 · 08-17-2004, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
All 35$ of it? Say it ain't so!

Hope you keep those good google positions and let the cash roll in for a bit longer... because your comedy routine is a bit weak to be taking on the road just yet!

So in closing... GFY. Bitch.

wdsguy · 08-18-2004, 12:12 AM

Hope u didn't have alot of money in that account

foolio · 08-18-2004, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate-MM2
And the email headers look legit to me... so I'm guessing it's not somebody trying to figure out how I get traffic to my sites.

Don't feel that i've violated any of the TOS.

If you have any questions call them up or look for them on ICQ

bdld · 08-18-2004, 12:24 AM

hopefully you'll get all the money youre owed thus far, if you stop doing whatever they're accusing you of, they should pay you what you're owed.

pxxx · 08-18-2004, 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by wdsguy
Hope u didn't have alot of money in that account

If you had read the thread before posting you would know why i am quoting you.

Don't take it as an attack, but as a heads up.

Manowar · 08-18-2004, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad
i met the voice of scooby doo.. he owns an ice cream shop 10 mins away

does he drive a mystery van ?

Nate-MM2 · 08-18-2004, 01:09 AM

Thanks everyone for the kind words & suggestions...

Just to clarify, I'm not bringing this out on the boards to warn people about ND (they have always paid me like clockwork and have converted with the best of them) or to bribe them to release the funds.

Was just curious if anybody had been in the same position so thought I would ask here.

xxxjay · 08-18-2004, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate-MM2
Hope you keep those good google positions and let the cash roll in for a bit longer... because your comedy routine is a bit weak to be taking on the road just yet!

So in closing... GFY. Bitch.

Fuck you - aside from Topbucks, there is not a more solid sponsor than ND. I hate to se them get trashed on the boards.

That's why I have to call you newbler fags out.

08-18-2004, 02:23 PM

I don't think they are saying you can't use purchased content to promote them, although they are suggesting you don't. The wording here seems to suggest that they are accusing you of using "stolen" content.

Also, we noticed that you are using other people?s content to promote our sites. We do not allow this type of promotion as it infringes on other people?s copyrights

They wouldn't mention copyrights if they didn't think the content was stolen.

Nate-MM2 · 08-18-2004, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Fuck you - aside from Topbucks, there is not a more solid sponsor than ND. I hate to se them get trashed on the boards.

That's why I have to call you newbler fags out.

Trashed on the boards? Did I miss something?

Nate-MM2 · 08-18-2004, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
I don't think they are saying you can't use purchased content to promote them, although they are suggesting you don't. The wording here seems to suggest that they are accusing you of using "stolen" content.

Also, we noticed that you are using other people?s content to promote our sites. We do not allow this type of promotion as it infringes on other people?s copyrights

They wouldn't mention copyrights if they didn't think the content was stolen.

Unless they own the content or recognize it as exclusive content from somebody else they have no way of knowing who's copyrights I either am or am not infringing upon.

xxxjay · 08-18-2004, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate-MM2
Trashed on the boards? Did I miss something?

Just face it: You fucked up.

fuzebox · 08-18-2004, 03:53 PM

Smells like drammma!

Nate-MM2 · 08-18-2004, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Just face it: You fucked up.

It says nothing in their TOS about not being able to use licensed content on sites promoting ND.

Nate-MM2 · 08-19-2004, 11:33 AM

UPDATE: They have not responded to my email and have now locked me out of my account.

Tried phoning and the person I'm supposed to be speaking to was out for lunch.

polish_aristocrat · 08-19-2004, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
I don't think they are saying you can't use purchased content to promote them, although they are suggesting you don't. The wording here seems to suggest that they are accusing you of using "stolen" content.

I also understand it that way, but overall i can't really judge this situation.

korzon · 08-19-2004, 11:38 AM

weird

Tera · 08-19-2004, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Just face it: You fucked up.

LOL get em Jay! Your grumpy today eh.. off to bother you on icq then!

Nate-MM2 · 08-19-2004, 11:47 AM

To clarify, I have been promoting them inside the protected areas of some of my older premium AVS sites. (about 800 sites in total, so I have ND ads on about 6000 html pages)

The only methods I have been using for advertising are the banners they provide themselves for their affiliates, as well as text-links that I came up with on my own (allowed in their TOS)

No false claims are made in regards to their sites or anything like that, just "Click Here To See Real College Girls Drinking Cum On Video!" etc.. etc...

All content across all my sites, including the members areas of the AVS Sites in question is fully licensed with the paperwork to back it up.

xxxjay · 08-19-2004, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate-MM2
To clarify, I have been promoting them inside the protected areas of some of my older premium AVS sites. (about 800 sites in total, so I have ND ads on about 6000 html pages)

Wow! 6000 html pages to change?!

Man, that is gonna SUCK!

RicardoB · 08-19-2004, 01:15 PM

Usualy they are around here. They are very silent now?

Nate-MM2 · 08-19-2004, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RicardoB
Usualy they are around here. They are very silent now?

I can't get anyone on the phone or by e-mail either.

This shit is frustrating as all hell....

Don't want to go through the process of swapping out ads considering I don't think i've violated their TOS and would still like to continue sending them traffic.

iwantchixx · 08-19-2004, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Fuck you - aside from Topbucks, there is not a more solid sponsor than ND. I hate to se them get trashed on the boards.

That's why I have to call you newbler fags out.

real mature attitude there jay. C'mon, you know better than that. if you'd stop one second to read his initial post you would see he wasen't bashing on ND.

nastyman · 08-19-2004, 01:58 PM

to clarify, you can use licensed content to promote us, no problem.

your account has been re-instated. we just needed to know where your traffic was coming from.

we will send you an email to follow up. any other questions, just let us know.

[email protected]

Nate-MM2 · 08-19-2004, 02:01 PM

Looks like all has worked out...

Thanks guys, I hope you can understand that I didn't want to bring this out on the boards.

chupacabra · 08-19-2004, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyman
to clarify, you can use licensed content to promote us, no problem.

your account has been re-instated. we just needed to know where your traffic was coming from.

we will send you an email to follow up. any other questions, just let us know.

[email protected]

cool beans. good to see things get worked out..!

RicardoB · 08-19-2004, 02:03 PM

There's the ND I know

08-17-2004, 10:07 PM	#1
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	ND account suspended for fraud & copyright infringement... WTF?! Just wondering if anybody else has had this problem... and YES I have e-mailed them already! Just making sure it isn't epidemic... We regret to inform you that your account has been flagged for potential fraud by our fraud department. Please provide us with as much information regarding your traffic. Where is your traffic coming from? How are you promoting? The more information the better, so we can properly investigate your account. Your account has been suspended while we investigate further. Also, we noticed that you are using other people?s content to promote our sites. We do not allow this type of promotion as it infringes on other people?s copyrights. Secondly, they are not models inside the member?s area, which deceives the user thereby increasing the chances that they will cancel the membership and not tell their friends. Mo Nasty Dollars Support Team We're here to help!

08-17-2004, 10:08 PM	#3
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08-17-2004, 10:14 PM	#9
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	can anyone link the ND TOS? there is not one on the site __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

08-17-2004, 10:08 PM	#2
brizzad holla Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: KFC Posts: 11,769	they're there to help

08-17-2004, 10:16 PM	#10
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	founds it http://nastydollars.com/terms.htm?wm_refer= i was blind for a minute __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

08-17-2004, 10:27 PM	#11
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	And the email headers look legit to me... so I'm guessing it's not somebody trying to figure out how I get traffic to my sites. Don't feel that i've violated any of the TOS.

08-17-2004, 10:35 PM	#12
Trent Edison Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Freeport 7 Posts: 6,132	This sucks. I hope you wont lose your money.... __________________

08-17-2004, 11:24 PM	#15
Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	They've done it before, so assume it's legit. This part is relatively new. "Also, we noticed that you are using other people?s content to promote our sites. We do not allow this type of promotion as it infringes on other people?s copyrights. Secondly, they are not models inside the member?s area, which deceives the user thereby increasing the chances that they will cancel the membership and not tell their friends." Can't say that I've seen that particular clause posted publicly before. I've seen planty of pages using purchased content to sell nd.

08-18-2004, 12:12 AM	#17
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	Hope u didn't have alot of money in that account

08-18-2004, 12:24 AM	#19
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	hopefully you'll get all the money youre owed thus far, if you stop doing whatever they're accusing you of, they should pay you what you're owed.

08-18-2004, 01:09 AM	#22
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	Thanks everyone for the kind words & suggestions... Just to clarify, I'm not bringing this out on the boards to warn people about ND (they have always paid me like clockwork and have converted with the best of them) or to bribe them to release the funds. Was just curious if anybody had been in the same position so thought I would ask here.

08-18-2004, 02:23 PM	#24
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	I don't think they are saying you can't use purchased content to promote them, although they are suggesting you don't. The wording here seems to suggest that they are accusing you of using "stolen" content. Also, we noticed that you are using other people?s content to promote our sites. We do not allow this type of promotion as it infringes on other people?s copyrights They wouldn't mention copyrights if they didn't think the content was stolen.

08-18-2004, 03:53 PM	#28
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,137	Smells like drammma!

08-19-2004, 11:33 AM	#30
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	UPDATE: They have not responded to my email and have now locked me out of my account. Tried phoning and the person I'm supposed to be speaking to was out for lunch.

08-19-2004, 11:38 AM	#32
korzon Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,524	weird __________________

08-19-2004, 11:47 AM	#34
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	To clarify, I have been promoting them inside the protected areas of some of my older premium AVS sites. (about 800 sites in total, so I have ND ads on about 6000 html pages) The only methods I have been using for advertising are the banners they provide themselves for their affiliates, as well as text-links that I came up with on my own (allowed in their TOS) No false claims are made in regards to their sites or anything like that, just "Click Here To See Real College Girls Drinking Cum On Video!" etc.. etc... All content across all my sites, including the members areas of the AVS Sites in question is fully licensed with the paperwork to back it up.

08-19-2004, 01:15 PM	#36
RicardoB Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,576	Usualy they are around here. They are very silent now? __________________ Let Me Show Ya How I Really Feel Ricardo's Rants

08-19-2004, 01:58 PM	#39
nastyman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 128	to clarify, you can use licensed content to promote us, no problem. your account has been re-instated. we just needed to know where your traffic was coming from. we will send you an email to follow up. any other questions, just let us know. [email protected]

08-19-2004, 02:01 PM	#40
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	Looks like all has worked out... Thanks guys, I hope you can understand that I didn't want to bring this out on the boards.

08-19-2004, 02:03 PM	#42
RicardoB Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,576	There's the ND I know __________________ Let Me Show Ya How I Really Feel Ricardo's Rants