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  • Jeff aka NIGHTfall
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 5162

    #1

    If God Is The Creator Of All Things..

    ..Who Created "God"


    discuss...
    [/atheist ]

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  • pxxx
    First African GFY Member
    • Mar 2004
    • 12114

    #2
    [Believer]
    Thou shall not be questioned.

    I am going to stay out of this one though
    [/Believer]

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    • Manowar
      jellyfish  
      • Dec 2003
      • 71528

      #3
      shhhhhh , they dont have answers for those things

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      • Jeff aka NIGHTfall
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2003
        • 5162

        #4
        Originally posted by pxxx
        [Believer]
        Thou shall not be questioned.

        I am going to stay out of this one though
        [/Believer]
        i mean no disrespect to your beliefs, just wondering what the GFYer's had to say on the topic

        no offence ment to anyone

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        • Jakke PNG
          ex-TeenGodFather
          • Nov 2001
          • 20306

          #5
          If big bang created everything, what caused it to the emptyness?
          ..and I'm off.

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          • Jeff aka NIGHTfall
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2003
            • 5162

            #6
            Originally posted by Manowar
            shhhhhh , they dont have answers for those things

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            • aaron
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 4452

              #7
              stupid thread

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              • Jeff aka NIGHTfall
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2003
                • 5162

                #8
                Originally posted by aaron
                stupid thread
                stupid post... but im glad to see you got your sig in here... asswipe

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                • DarkJedi
                  No Refunds Issued.
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 28301

                  #9
                  The problem here is that many people have a mistaken concept of God. If we conceive of God as physical, anthropomorphic (like man) being, the question of God?s origin is valid. However, such a concept of God is alien to the Bible and to common sense. Consider the following descriptions of God from the Bible:


                  John 4: 24
                  God is a Spirit:...

                  Matthew 16:17
                  ...for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my father which is in heaven.

                  Numbers 23:19
                  God is not a man, that He should...;


                  Obviously, the descriptions and concepts of God given in these passages are that God is a spiritual entity. He exists outside of the three-dimensional, physical world in which we live.

                  Not only is God described as being outside space, but He is also described as being outside of time. Consider the following:

                  2 Peter 3:8
                  But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

                  Psalm 90:4
                  For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

                  Psalm 102:27
                  But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.

                  Acts 1:7
                  ...It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in His power.


                  If God is a being that is unlimited in time, and if He has access to every piece of time as if it were now, the question of who created God is an invalid question. The problem is like asking a student to draw a four-sided triangle. The terminology is self-contradictory.

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                  • Mr. Marks
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 7517

                    #10
                    If I shoved my fist up your ass, why do you smile?

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                    • strats
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1805

                      #11
                      shuuuutttt theeee fuuuccccckkkkkkk uppppp

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                      • Face (o_0)
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • May 2004
                        • 2617

                        #12
                        Originally posted by papichulo
                        If I shoved my fist up your ass, why do you smile?
                        having a bad day?

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                        • pxxx
                          First African GFY Member
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 12114

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DarkJedi
                          The problem here is that many people have a mistaken concept of God. If we conceive of God as physical, anthropomorphic (like man) being, the question of God?s origin is valid. However, such a concept of God is alien to the Bible and to common sense. Consider the following descriptions of God from the Bible:


                          John 4: 24
                          God is a Spirit:...

                          Matthew 16:17
                          ...for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my father which is in heaven.

                          Numbers 23:19
                          God is not a man, that He should...;


                          Obviously, the descriptions and concepts of God given in these passages are that God is a spiritual entity. He exists outside of the three-dimensional, physical world in which we live.

                          Not only is God described as being outside space, but He is also described as being outside of time. Consider the following:

                          2 Peter 3:8
                          But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

                          Psalm 90:4
                          For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

                          Psalm 102:27
                          But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.

                          Acts 1:7
                          ...It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in His power.


                          If God is a being that is unlimited in time, and if He has access to every piece of time as if it were now, the question of who created God is an invalid question. The problem is like asking a student to draw a four-sided triangle. The terminology is self-contradictory.
                          I like you a whole lot man, that is the best answer about any thread relating to God on here in a while. Makes more sense than Boobmaster getting upset and screaming at atheist.


                          Respect for that answer.


                          Jeff: No offense taken man. Everybody believes in what they believe in. I don't try to crash down your throat and ask for you to believe. As long as you were told and made your decision, thats all that matters.

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                          • nico-t
                            emperor of my world
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 29901

                            #14
                            what the hell created toothpaste

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                            • hova
                              Traffillionaire
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 22430

                              #15
                              I created God
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                              • pxxx
                                First African GFY Member
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 12114

                                #16
                                Originally posted by nico-t
                                what the hell created toothpaste
                                the question is..

                                "Why did they create toothpaste?"


                                Next time you smile, that question would be answered.

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                                • Paul Waters
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 4402

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Jeff aka NIGHTfall
                                  ..Who Created "God"


                                  discuss...
                                  [/atheist ]
                                  "The Great White Handerchief"

                                  Search usenet in alt.athiests for the background.


                                  Paul

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                                  • TheMob?
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 8584

                                    #18
                                    thou shall not question my existance

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                                    • Fabien
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 4789

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Manowar
                                      shhhhhh , they dont have answers for those things
                                      DAMN RIGHT

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                                      • Fabien
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 4789

                                        #20
                                        What the fuck do we know about it
                                        TELL ME ?

                                        So funny that people REALLY think that "they know the truth"

                                        Hey, we don't know shit about anything. I'm not saying something big/good (whatever...) exists and i'm not saying that it doesn't

                                        WE DON'T KNOW
                                        Period.

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                                        • jayeff
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 2944

                                          #21
                                          Faith is "belief without evidence", even belief despite evidence. So even if one were to take the question seriously, its answer or lack of an answer is unlikely to shake anyone's faith.

                                          By the same token, if there were a satisfactory answer, I doubt people would be queuing at the churches. Religious faith isn't something you arrive at by logical analysis.

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                                          • abyss_al
                                            **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 15605

                                            #22
                                            i had that discussion the other night with someone else, went on for hours... i brought up the same thing, and they froze..

                                            i said if everything comes from something else then something/someone must have created god also... it got all crazy
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                                            • mardigras
                                              Bon temps!
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 14194

                                              #23
                                              It's kind of like thinking about the universe. Although it's said to be infinite you know there has to be a finite number of physical things at any given time, but if somehow you could be instantly transported to the exact "edge" of the universe it's hard to fathom that you couldn't take a step further or reach an arm's length out or that there's not even empty space past that point.
                                              .

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                                              • Serge Litehead
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 5190

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Jeff aka NIGHTfall
                                                ..Who Created "God"


                                                discuss...
                                                [/atheist ]
                                                noone, God started out as a self-realising process, you're part of it, you maybe your own god within your borders of consciousness, but at the end you choose to be part of something larger than creating your own world which in most cases half functional. God is you, everyone and everything around you, ideas, thoughts, chemistry, phisycs.

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