So whats up with everyone hating flash around here? - GoFuckYourself.com

xwebdesigner · 05-30-2001, 06:17 PM

I've noticed from past reading much hate towards flash with some of you. I understand from some point because you can make money off a 2 cent html job. But flash really makes your site come to life a nd with the right designer you can have one FAT web site.
I believe the % of people with the flah pluggin is up around 90 these days.

So hit me with your cons on this I'm interested in why you all hate flash so much.

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Dirtypainter · 05-30-2001, 06:35 PM

well there is many cons to it. like one good reason a really flashy flash file takes so long to down load on most dial ups so a surfer is gone before it even has a chance to sell a thing.

and being a TGP reviewer I get sick and tired of that blasted pure fuck banner. sure its a attention getter but damn *L*

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SABAI · 05-30-2001, 06:41 PM

flash is a good improvment but........fuck ......people just don't know how to use it in a good way.....i hate flash sites coz the people who make them think only about their "artistic creations " and not about the surfers.....

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xwebdesigner · 05-30-2001, 06:52 PM

Well I think most of you have experienced bad flash designers. Cause I good designer can make make a flash site load very fast, in most cases just as fast as old html.
Not am I only talking about flash sites but even banners. I wonder how much money affiliate banners bring in for the adult industry. How long have these old html banners been used. I have even heard that banners where dead and text links where taking over. Now thats sad has any paysite attempted to offer a few flash banners to there webmaster?

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Rip · 05-30-2001, 07:15 PM

If a site has a auto loading flash banner or display, I usually close the window, if there is no quick link to get out

If you want to have something special for a surfer to load, and they have the option to see it or bypass it, fine

An example, I have a fast cable connection

I goto an adult related program, partnership, content site or whatever...
all of a sudden a flash banner or intro is forced onto my browser from their main page, my browser hangs for a moment,
I close the window,
I go somewhere else

Susan · 05-30-2001, 07:22 PM

When everyone has broadband and BW is 50c a GIG

Otherwise death by flash still stands

Badgurl · 05-30-2001, 08:55 PM

Flash is getting old and boring already...

seen it, was impressed...okay..what's next..!

I find it really amateurish looking too..

Like, I'm some fucking pro graphics guru gurl...

Bake · 05-30-2001, 10:04 PM

Flash gives me a woody I like what you can make with such a small file size ,It's just not understood

TheWatcher · 05-30-2001, 11:04 PM

Over 75% of porn surfers have slow dial-up computers. so you do the math.... There computer can't handle a flash page... heh

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RedShoe · 05-30-2001, 11:08 PM

You'll notice that xwebdesigner doesn't use flash at his site in his sig.
I wonder why?

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UnseenWorld · 05-31-2001, 12:16 AM

Why do I hate Flash? Hmmm. Let me see... How about because almost always when a Flash intro starts, I hate it. So, I hate it because I hate it.

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Tucks · 05-31-2001, 12:46 AM

Why does flash blow? Glad you asked...

7. The novelty disappeared 2 years ago.
6. I hate regular splash screens, much less 60K flash ones.
5. Dumb-ass sounds that interrupt my mp3s. My bootlegged copy of "Yanni in Cleveland" doesn't need to be interrupted with Star Trek phaser noises.
4. Ever try printing a flash site?
3. I like my browser's back/forward buttons, thank you.
2. http://www.drmartens.com
1. Why can't I cut-and-paste?

There *may* be a use in the adult biz for flash banners where the traffic has already seen every other attempt to get them to a sponsor, but that's it.

xwebdesigner · 05-31-2001, 09:52 AM

RedShoe:

There is a bit of flash in my portfolio but I'm sure you didn't take the time to look.

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Eric · 05-31-2001, 10:07 AM

Flash maybe old. But look at what can be done with it. No this is not an adult site but impressive still. http://www.evil-islands.com/usa/

pick up the small icons on the bottom right and put them into the mouth at the left to navigate pages.

Out
Eric_aka_RedEyes

Rip · 05-31-2001, 10:30 AM

Very impressive, and nice design

and maybe that would be worth spending the money on for content inside a pay site

but click the buy-now link

see any flash there?

As an adult webmaster, we want the surfer to buy-now

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sweetjimmy · 05-31-2001, 10:39 AM

i hate flash

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Steve · 05-31-2001, 10:59 AM

Topic: So whats up with everyone hating flash around here?

I'm a big Ming the Merciless fan. I always root for the bad guy.

UnseenWorld · 05-31-2001, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes:
Flash maybe old. But look at what can be done with it. No this is not an adult site but impressive still. http://www.evil-islands.com/usa/

pick up the small icons on the bottom right and put them into the mouth at the left to navigate pages.

Out
Eric_aka_RedEyes

First of all, I don't go to a site to see a poorly-rendered bat followed by "LOADING." And as for the feature of dragging and dropping the icons at the bottom into the gaping maw, I wouldn't even have known about that if you hadn't told me.

People hate Flash because it generally is a waste of their time.

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SABAI · 05-31-2001, 04:33 PM

that is the word...WASTE OF TIME...

loading...please wate while loading....
not mentioning the endless intros with no" skip intro" button

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TheWatcher · 05-31-2001, 04:56 PM

Flash Is made for HighEnd internet access and big moniters... Flash is an amusment! =o) not a sales tactic

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xwebdesigner · 05-31-2001, 05:55 PM

Dialker king has some flash http://www.dialerking.com/page2.html

Please wait while loading?? LOL

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kuwawawah · 05-31-2001, 10:29 PM

making swish banner is pretty cool and quick, but update a flash tgp might be more time consuming.

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05-30-2001, 06:17 PM	#1
xwebdesigner Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 54	So whats up with everyone hating flash around here? I've noticed from past reading much hate towards flash with some of you. I understand from some point because you can make money off a 2 cent html job. But flash really makes your site come to life a nd with the right designer you can have one FAT web site. I believe the % of people with the flah pluggin is up around 90 these days. So hit me with your cons on this I'm interested in why you all hate flash so much. ------------------ Adult Banner Design --> CHEAP, FAST, PROFESSIONAL www.xwebdesigner.com/xbanners.htm

05-30-2001, 06:35 PM	#2
Dirtypainter Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Boondocks, Iowa Posts: 425	well there is many cons to it. like one good reason a really flashy flash file takes so long to down load on most dial ups so a surfer is gone before it even has a chance to sell a thing. and being a TGP reviewer I get sick and tired of that blasted pure fuck banner. sure its a attention getter but damn L ------------------ All Sweet Pussy A proud Reviewer for Fortune Pussy

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05-30-2001, 06:41 PM	#3
SABAI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: footmaniac.com Posts: 2,880	flash is a good improvment but........fuck ......people just don't know how to use it in a good way.....i hate flash sites coz the people who make them think only about their "artistic creations " and not about the surfers..... ------------------ www.adult-web-master.com evidence eliminator sells like hot cakes on porn sites

05-30-2001, 06:52 PM	#4
xwebdesigner Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 54	Well I think most of you have experienced bad flash designers. Cause I good designer can make make a flash site load very fast, in most cases just as fast as old html. Not am I only talking about flash sites but even banners. I wonder how much money affiliate banners bring in for the adult industry. How long have these old html banners been used. I have even heard that banners where dead and text links where taking over. Now thats sad has any paysite attempted to offer a few flash banners to there webmaster? ------------------ Adult Banner Design --> CHEAP, FAST, PROFESSIONAL www.xwebdesigner.com/xbanners.htm

05-30-2001, 07:15 PM	#5
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	If a site has a auto loading flash banner or display, I usually close the window, if there is no quick link to get out If you want to have something special for a surfer to load, and they have the option to see it or bypass it, fine An example, I have a fast cable connection I goto an adult related program, partnership, content site or whatever... all of a sudden a flash banner or intro is forced onto my browser from their main page, my browser hangs for a moment, I close the window, I go somewhere else

05-30-2001, 07:22 PM	#6
Susan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Amost UK central Posts: 772	When everyone has broadband and BW is 50c a GIG Otherwise death by flash still stands

05-30-2001, 08:55 PM	#7
Badgurl Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 161	Flash is getting old and boring already... seen it, was impressed...okay..what's next..! I find it really amateurish looking too.. Like, I'm some fucking pro graphics guru gurl...

05-30-2001, 10:04 PM	#8
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,484	Flash gives me a woody I like what you can make with such a small file size ,It's just not understood

05-30-2001, 11:04 PM	#9
TheWatcher Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 563	Over 75% of porn surfers have slow dial-up computers. so you do the math.... There computer can't handle a flash page... heh ------------------ Peace will come, just kill them all...

05-30-2001, 11:08 PM	#10
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	You'll notice that xwebdesigner doesn't use flash at his site in his sig. I wonder why? ------------------ ...:::End Of Line:::... ------------------ * uSexFan.com * ICQ : 114683191

05-31-2001, 12:16 AM	#11
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Why do I hate Flash? Hmmm. Let me see... How about because almost always when a Flash intro starts, I hate it. So, I hate it because I hate it. ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World

05-31-2001, 12:46 AM	#12
Tucks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: CA Posts: 105	Why does flash blow? Glad you asked... 7. The novelty disappeared 2 years ago. 6. I hate regular splash screens, much less 60K flash ones. 5. Dumb-ass sounds that interrupt my mp3s. My bootlegged copy of "Yanni in Cleveland" doesn't need to be interrupted with Star Trek phaser noises. 4. Ever try printing a flash site? 3. I like my browser's back/forward buttons, thank you. 2. http://www.drmartens.com 1. Why can't I cut-and-paste? There may be a use in the adult biz for flash banners where the traffic has already seen every other attempt to get them to a sponsor, but that's it.

05-31-2001, 09:52 AM	#13
xwebdesigner Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 54	RedShoe: There is a bit of flash in my portfolio but I'm sure you didn't take the time to look. ------------------ Adult Banner Design --> CHEAP, FAST, PROFESSIONAL www.xwebdesigner.com/xbanners.htm

05-31-2001, 10:07 AM	#14
Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	Flash maybe old. But look at what can be done with it. No this is not an adult site but impressive still. http://www.evil-islands.com/usa/ pick up the small icons on the bottom right and put them into the mouth at the left to navigate pages. Out Eric_aka_RedEyes

05-31-2001, 10:30 AM	#15
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	Very impressive, and nice design and maybe that would be worth spending the money on for content inside a pay site but click the buy-now link see any flash there? As an adult webmaster, we want the surfer to buy-now ------------------ Make dirty money from your surfers Dirty Gold Jack Thumbs TGP Search Engine Driven TGP - Pages LISTED INSTANTLY

05-31-2001, 10:39 AM	#16
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	i hate flash ------------------ http://www.sweetjimmy.com/

05-31-2001, 10:59 AM	#17
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	Topic: So whats up with everyone hating flash around here? I'm a big Ming the Merciless fan. I always root for the bad guy.

05-31-2001, 04:33 PM	#19
SABAI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: footmaniac.com Posts: 2,880	that is the word...WASTE OF TIME... loading...please wate while loading.... not mentioning the endless intros with no" skip intro" button ------------------ www.adult-web-master.com evidence eliminator sells like hot cakes on porn sites

05-31-2001, 04:56 PM	#20
TheWatcher Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 563	Flash Is made for HighEnd internet access and big moniters... Flash is an amusment! =o) not a sales tactic ------------------ Peace will come, just kill them all...

05-31-2001, 05:55 PM	#21
xwebdesigner Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 54	Dialker king has some flash http://www.dialerking.com/page2.html Please wait while loading?? LOL ------------------ Adult Banner Design --> CHEAP, FAST, PROFESSIONAL www.xwebdesigner.com/xbanners.htm

05-31-2001, 10:29 PM	#22
kuwawawah Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Frozen nutZ Posts: 348	making swish banner is pretty cool and quick, but update a flash tgp might be more time consuming.