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Old 08-12-2004, 10:12 PM   #1
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Bush: America is "absolutely" better off today than it was four years ago

I really think Bush is starting to lose it.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...lkl/index.html

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- President Bush said Thursday that America is "absolutely" better off today than it was four years ago -- on both the national security and domestic fronts.

"The world's safer. ... Libya's no longer a threat. Pakistan is an ally in the war on terror," Bush said in an exclusive interview on CNN's "Larry King Live."

Bush goes on to say.....

"We thought we'd find stockpiles. The whole world thought we'd find stockpiles. ... But what we do know is Saddam Hussein had the capability of making weapons of mass destruction, and after September 11th, a risk we could not take was that he would share that capability with our enemies."

Fucking amazing.
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Old 08-12-2004, 10:15 PM   #2
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Bush, during his 4 years created more hate towards Americans and America than ever before. And hate just fuels up the terrorists for more attacks.
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Bush, during his 4 years created more hate towards Americans and America than ever before. And hate just fuels up the terrorists for more attacks.
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Four more years!

God, please send an asteroid to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue as soon as possible. And why you're at it send one to Warchild's house.
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God, please send an asteroid to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue as soon as possible. And why you're at it send one to Warchild's house.
God please send a burning ball of plasma to all of SuckOnThis's realtives. Start with his grandparents and make it painful. Thank you.

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Al-queda is going to miss bush he is the best thing that could have ever happened as far as reqruitment goes...
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Al-queda is going to miss bush he is the best thing that could have ever happened as far as reqruitment goes...

They will make sure he gets another term.
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Bush, during his 4 years created more hate towards Americans and America than ever before. And hate just fuels up the terrorists for more attacks.
Unfortunately this is true. I am finding it hard to think of a worse leader in the western world!
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God, please send an asteroid to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue as soon as possible. And why you're at it send one to Warchild's house.
You have to look at this from a Canadian's perspective. Since the bush regime took power, instability has gripped the world, pushing energy prices to astronomical highs. Canada, primarily being a resource exporting country, reaps great benefits.

Combine that with international unease about commiting foreign investment dollars to the US and parking it in Canada instead... well, the future's pretty rosy. There's a reason why we've had the #1 growth rate of the G8 for 4 years running. The only downside we've had is that the rapid devaluation of your dollar has lead to some uncomfortable moments for anyone bringing in USD.

I mean, it sucks that he's destroying whatever ideal you guys had for liberty and justice and all while he's on his personal jihad, but what you gonna do?

... and I believe that HIS america is better than it was 4 years ago. Perhaps you're just not good enough to live in HIS america.

I mean, you're in that top 10%, >180k/year column, aren't you?
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You have to look at this from a Canadian's perspective. Since the bush regime took power, instability has gripped the world, pushing energy prices to astronomical highs. Canada, primarily being a resource exporting country, reaps great benefits.

Combine that with international unease about commiting foreign investment dollars to the US and parking it in Canada instead... well, the future's pretty rosy. There's a reason why we've had the #1 growth rate of the G8 for 4 years running. The only downside we've had is that the rapid devaluation of your dollar has lead to some uncomfortable moments for anyone bringing in USD.

I mean, it sucks that he's destroying whatever ideal you guys had for liberty and justice and all while he's on his personal jihad, but what you gonna do?

... and I believe that HIS america is better than it was 4 years ago. Perhaps you're just not good enough to live in HIS america.

I mean, you're in that top 10%, >180k/year column, aren't you?
Actually our dollar has been pretty strong the last couple years come to think of it..
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Bush, during his 4 years created more hate towards Americans and America than ever before. And hate just fuels up the terrorists for more attacks.
What he said.
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Actually our dollar has been pretty strong the last couple years come to think of it..
Yeah... kinda sucks doesn't it? I remember when we got more than 30c.

For a while there it was under 20c. I pay 18.1% combined federal/provincial tax and I'm thinking to myself "As soon as the conversion doesn't cover the tax, I'm taking a trip to europe to scare up some biz... gotta hedge that income".
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Personally, I liked the part, when asked if he would condemn the anti-Kerry ad attacking Kerry's miltary record, his response was..... I haven't seen it.

His wife said the same thing. Unfucking believable how they could both sit there and lie straight into the camera.

80 days left, and then we take our country back.
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yep. Hatred and a belief that most americans are sheep
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I tend to stay out of political threads, but I feel a need to vent.

I grew up in the '80s. I know a lot of the "kids today" see the '80s as a shallow time. Fact is, for those of us who were paying attention, is was a terrifying time. All that shallow dance music and pretentious alt-rock grew out of the absolute certainty that we were all going to be nuked off the face of the earth, courtesy of the Republican party. The attitude was, "We're gonna die - might as well dance."

I don't know if I was one iota safer with Bill Clinton in office. I doubt it. But you know what? I felt good about my country. I felt good about my president. I felt that my government more or less represented the ideals I believe in.

Am I shallow? No more than anyone else in this country. None of us can know the actual reality of our situation. Perception is key. Right now I feel pessimistic on levels I never fathomed. I despise G. W. Bush and his administration. Is Kerry any better? I don't know; but I am pretty sure he's no worse. And if he can raise morale, then he's better, at least in the short term. America is so filled with self-loathing right now, we're on the verge of imploding. And that breaks my heart. Because I do love my country, but right now I feel like a stupid slut defending an abusive boyfriend. "No, really, he's not usually like that!"

The typical response is, "Love it or leave it." I'm considering leaving it. And I never, ever thought I would say that.
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... and I believe that HIS america is better than it was 4 years ago. Perhaps you're just not good enough to live in HIS america.

I mean, you're in that top 10%, >180k/year column, aren't you?

The money is only a small part of it. Yes, 4 years ago I was pulling in over 500k a year, now its about half that, which is fine with me. The biggest issue is unlike the conservatives I actually care about the future of the country/world. On a personal level I see the people around me barely making it, losing their jobs and their homes. These same people were turning down jobs left and right 4 years ago. Its exactly the same situation that was happening during the 80's with Reagan and Bush Sr. Economies always experience ups and downs so that can be expected.

There is a much bigger problem today compared to the 80's though. The hate being produced by the right is being embraced by half the country and becoming more and more acceptable. It blows my mind that there are millions of people in America that have no problem with a president that fabricates information in order to invade a country. It also shocks me that this administration has continually manipulated people using fear and lies in order to push its agenda. People on the right know that they are doing this and have no problem with it. I am certain this admin will do anything to stay in power, whether it be manipulate election results or create more fear. Its no different than what Hitler did to gain power and control of Germany.

I am certain Bush will remain in power. What I see happening is either a terrorist attack days before the election or the threat of a terrorist attack on the day of the election. If people are afraid to go out and vote Bush will win. It is a fact that on high voter turnouts dems usually win. It wouldnt surprise me at all if this happens to see a civil war in this country between the left and the right.
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at least he's not acting like the Europeans, filling the terrorists with love
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Bush, during his 4 years created more hate towards Americans and America than ever before. And hate just fuels up the terrorists for more attacks.
yup, the war in Iraq will simply not restore peace.. instead, i see more hatred coming out from this cursed conflict.

Bush has failed to get the nod of the US people after a Senate committe released its investigation that US intelligence has failed to proved that there was indeed WMD in Iraq. Bush will certainly go down the wire for this stupid decision to go into war.

picture below is composed of US KIA in Iraq alone.

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more proof of his utter imcompetence as president
Yep. And when asked about the 7 minutes he sat there in that classroom after he was told of the attacks, he told Larry that he knew instantly that we were at war. And he went on to say that he was just collecting his thoughts.. in other words, exactly what the critics of his inaction say is exactly right.

It was literally unbelievable to me also that neither he or his wife had seen the anti-kerry ad in question.

His talk about embryonic stem cell research was totally lame as well. He failed to mention (and Larry failed to mention) that so many embryo's are already wasted at infertility clinics. If he's so concerned that it's "life", why doesnt he demand those cells be implanted or something? doh..

And WHERE are the news reporters asking him about Goss being appointed CIA director when Goss himself said he was unqualified?? That should be a HUGE story...

blah blah blah. Thats all I think when I hear him talk anymore.
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at least he's not acting like the Europeans, filling the terrorists with love
thats probly the dumbest thing ive ever heard
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don't forget about his "sovereignity statement" I never laughed so hard!!
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I'm so pessimistic about this election though. Even if the votes side toward Kerry 55/45, somehow I see some form of corruption that will lead to bush's victory.
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I'm so pessimistic about this election though. Even if the votes side toward Kerry 55/45, somehow I see some form of corruption that will lead to bush's victory.
sounds like someone remebers florida in 2000
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don't forget about his "sovereignity statement" I never laughed so hard!!
yeah, lol that was a good 1
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One of the biggest goals of right-wing politics is to scrape up money from those
with the least of it - the majority of the people - and make the rich richer...

So I'm not surprised at all that the "State of The States" looks like it does
now after Bush juniors time behind the wheel..

Similar shit happened here in Sweden too when a party more to the right
had the power in the early 90's to mid-90's.
It now seems they fucked things up forever beyond repair;
unemployment rates, education & health-care among several things.

Some people are gonna think I'm a "commie" after this post, which I'm not...
I just don't think significant right-wing politics are healthy for any country,

that's only "healthy" for the financial top - and that's only gonna upset the majority in the end...
Which is UN-healthy for the country itself, and sometimes for the rest of the world as well.

I'd hate to see the US have another civil war.. but Bush has really pushed certain agendas too far.
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Bush/Cheney 2k4, sorry Canadians, U live in a DIFFERENT country, so like your country, your opinion doesn't matter to America! :-) Hate Bush all you want, all the blind hate the mindless personal attacks will only make him win the election.
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How 'bout we ship him up to Canada and you can say that with real conviction
My mother's American .. If I don't end up in Costa Rica, I will probably immigrate to America too.

I'd rather have anything than our liberal rip off crew here in Canada.

I'd personally like to see Bush wipe out most of the Arab world. It's become us against them (Western values vs. Islamic).

I want to see the most powerful nation in the world continue to be lead by someone who will happily wipe them out. I choose us.

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Bush/Cheney 2k4, sorry Canadians, U live in a DIFFERENT country, so like your country, your opinion doesn't matter to America! :-) Hate Bush all you want, all the blind hate the mindless personal attacks will only make him win the election.
Yeah I'd say Canada matters to the United States. You need our power, water, wood ... Don't be idiotic.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:32 PM   #46
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Yeah I'd say Canada matters to the United States. You need our power, water, wood ... Don't be idiotic.

OMG, you buffoon! You cannot be serious, you can't shoot out lies in here like that and get away with it... Your trying to say that America needs Canada? WTF! thats so cute, your economy DEPENDS, i mean DEPENDS, on this country, COMPLETELY..... Hundreds of thousands of your citizens cross the border to get a better life here every day, yet when they get back home they wallow in their mindless anti-american bashing syndrome, yet they are enjoying the fruits of a great economy....

Hating America= The New World Sport
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:34 PM   #47
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OMG, you buffoon! You cannot be serious, you can't shoot out lies in here like that and get away with it... Your trying to say that America needs Canada? WTF! thats so cute, your economy DEPENDS, i mean DEPENDS, on this country, COMPLETELY..... Hundreds of thousands of your citizens cross the border to get a better life here every day, yet when they get back home they wallow in their mindless anti-american bashing syndrome, yet they are enjoying the fruits of a great economy....

Hating America= The New World Sport
A better life? You do realize Canada consistanly rates among the best places to live in the world. Higher than the US.

You run a trade deficit with us .. That's right, deficit. Both countries need each other. Thinking anything else is stupid.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:41 PM   #48
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OMG, you buffoon! You cannot be serious, you can't shoot out lies in here like that and get away with it... Your trying to say that America needs Canada? WTF! thats so cute, your economy DEPENDS, i mean DEPENDS, on this country, COMPLETELY..... Hundreds of thousands of your citizens cross the border to get a better life here every day, yet when they get back home they wallow in their mindless anti-american bashing syndrome, yet they are enjoying the fruits of a great economy....

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I've re-read your gibberish and decided you must be mildly retarded.

Where do you see me bashing USA? I'm a strong supporter of the US. I always have been and always will be. My mother is American.

But you're ignorant as shit if you think the US can go at it all on it's own all of the time. Canada is the United States largest trading partner and you want to try and convince me the Canada doesn't matter at all? That it's all about the good 'ol USA and only the USA.

Let me upgrade you to medium retarded.

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Old 08-13-2004, 01:45 PM   #49
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Ok well, if we're all going to act like children and deny true facts, like Canada is nothing without the U.S. economy, then I guess I'm stepping out of this argument... Keep thinking your the big important brother of the north and you know whats best for America... if it makes you wet we'll pretend your useful.

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Old 08-13-2004, 01:49 PM   #50
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OMG, you buffoon! You cannot be serious, you can't shoot out lies in here like that and get away with it... Your trying to say that America needs Canada? WTF! thats so cute, your economy DEPENDS, i mean DEPENDS, on this country, COMPLETELY..... Hundreds of thousands of your citizens cross the border to get a better life here every day, yet when they get back home they wallow in their mindless anti-american bashing syndrome, yet they are enjoying the fruits of a great economy....

Hating America= The New World Sport

Ignorant.

Both countries need each other, dumbass, that's why they are trade partners. And btw, the US runs a trade deficit with Canada.
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