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freeadultcontent 08-14-2004 11:30 AM

:error not supposed to be on page 4.

zzgundamnzz 08-14-2004 11:45 AM

Thanks for this thread...

They'll definately be hearing from me :thumbsup

Very Nice Responses BTW

Newton - XXXAmigoz 08-14-2004 03:53 PM

Bump

Magg 08-14-2004 03:55 PM

getting something drafted :thumbsup

freeadultcontent 08-15-2004 09:47 AM

:( Please keep in on page 1.

erehwon 08-15-2004 11:03 AM

PIN THE TOPIC!

mardigras 08-15-2004 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
FREAKIN PIN THE DAMN THING ALREADY!!!!!!
You need to scream a little louder to reach Florida:glugglug

Fletch XXX 08-15-2004 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
The imposition of such a vague regulation, impossible or nearly impossible with which to comply, the violation of which caries the potential of five years imprisonment, will so confuse and scare law-abiding Webmasters publishing lawful erotic imagery that their publication of this material will cease as a consequence of the chill imposed on speech through this provision.
what did you think was the goal here????

read that paragraph, that is EXACTLY what the DOJ wants.

freeadultcontent 08-15-2004 11:52 AM

Will someone just please file a injunction in federal court, or are the "specialists lawyers" just reaping in the new fee's.

Fletch XXX 08-15-2004 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Will someone just please file a injunction in federal court, or are the "specialists lawyers" just reaping in the new fee's.
ever saw the south park where kyles dad the lawyer is working both sides of a case and he is making millions off both sides?

exactly.

lawyers no matter what are scum.

just pay them their fucking fees and be done with them.

freeadultcontent 08-15-2004 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
ever saw the south park where kyles dad the lawyer is working both sides of a case and he is making millions off both sides?

exactly.

lawyers no matter what are scum.

just pay them their fucking fees and be done with them.

I know. It is just I am sick of the "we are for the industry crap".
An injunction can prevent this, or at very least someone could try.
The laws are just not needed since the old ones were never even fucking tested.

Fletch XXX 08-15-2004 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
I know. It is just I am sick of the "we are for the industry crap".
An injunction can prevent this, or at very least someone could try.
The laws are just not needed since the old ones were never even fucking tested.

"we were the world,
now we got no future.
sing the death song kids."

i hear you about this "we are the industry crap":

i picture bunches of unhealthy slobs holding hands outside the DOJ office reading the constitution, people want to change the world but they want to do it from their desks.

attend a rally, do something that matters.

november coming fire.

freeadultcontent 08-15-2004 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
"we were the world,
now we got no future.
sing the death song kids."

i hear you about this "we are the industry crap":

i picture bunches of unhealthy slobs holding hands outside the DOJ office reading the constitution, people want to change the world but they want to do it from their desks.

attend a rally, do something that matters.

november coming fire.

I would gladly do it if I had not already gone up to bat against the US government already in the past. One United States of America Vs. (my name) document is enough per person.

Fletch XXX 08-15-2004 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
I would gladly do it if I had not already gone up to bat against the US government already in the past. One United States of America Vs. (my name) document is enough per person.
this stops you from attending rallys?

ive been arrested, been to court.

nothing short of a bullet will stop me from going outside and screaming.

Fletch XXX 08-15-2004 12:07 PM

going to attend a town hall meeting soon too.

cant wait to be the only guy dressed in all black with tats holding a sign screaming

"take your jesus and your war and get the fuck out of america"

:1orglaugh

freeadultcontent 08-15-2004 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
this stops you from attending rallys?

ive been arrested, been to court.

nothing short of a bullet will stop me from going outside and screaming.

No i mean filing the injunction.

Jace 08-15-2004 07:07 PM

only 9 days left to bump this thread

gornyhuy 08-15-2004 07:14 PM

Has everyone done this yet? Come on people....

freeadultcontent 08-15-2004 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gornyhuy
Has everyone done this yet? Come on people....
I have bumped this fucker from past page 4 a few times.

neewwman 08-15-2004 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
You must provide your name, corporation (if applicable), and e-mail address, which will be used to identify the sender of the selected comments.

Umm . . . no.

Would it be paranoid of me to believe that a certain Attorney General might turn over a list of these webmasters to his Obscenity Enforcement Group to check out?

Mikey_219Inc 08-15-2004 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
going to attend a town hall meeting soon too.

cant wait to be the only guy dressed in all black with tats holding a sign screaming

"take your jesus and your war and get the fuck out of america"

:1orglaugh

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Jace 08-17-2004 10:19 AM

bump for those back from the convention

Jace 08-17-2004 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neewwman
Umm . . . no.

Would it be paranoid of me to believe that a certain Attorney General might turn over a list of these webmasters to his Obscenity Enforcement Group to check out?

if your not doing anything illegal than why are you worried? if you are doing illegal shit, please leave now

EZRhino 08-17-2004 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fabien
This one SHOULD BE PINNED !!


LIKE
PINNED

Hell ya, good info for all to know

Jace 08-17-2004 05:13 PM

bumping again for everyone to read

Jace 08-19-2004 02:27 PM

5 more days to get comments in

sixxxthsense 08-19-2004 02:38 PM

send in ur coments fuckers :) :thumbsup

Jace 08-19-2004 10:33 PM

bump for everyone to see

Matt 26z 08-19-2004 11:26 PM

If you email the DOJ, make sure the subject is "Docket No. CRM 103" as they require.



-Online form----------------
http://www.regulations.gov

Advanced search, then fill in CFR: 28 PART: 75

Direct link to that result:

http://comments.regulations.gov/EXTE...TOKEN=36626900


-email---------------------
[email protected]
Subject: "Docket No. CRM 103"


-Snail Mail----------------
Andrew Oosterbaan
Chief, Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section, Criminal Division
United States Department of Justice
Washington, DC 20530
Attn: Docket No. CRM 103.


-Fax-----------------------
202-514-1793
Include "Docket No. CRM 103" on the cover sheet

abyss_al 08-20-2004 12:22 AM

bump... reply if you have time people :thumbsup

titmowse 08-20-2004 03:02 AM

bump :thumbsup

MissMina 08-20-2004 05:24 AM

bump

gothweb 08-20-2004 05:39 AM

bump

I Like To Fuck 08-20-2004 05:44 AM

:thumbsup

Excellent thread

FightThisPatent 08-20-2004 07:34 AM

I posted this in another thread, and re-posting here... people should do more than send in their comments, you need to get involved and band together:


Until porn is ruled illegal, it just doesn't make sense for webmasters to be put in jail just because of slackness in record keeping or a twisting of the law to serve an agenda.

I am a fan to some degree of freedom-fighting organizations like ACLU, EFF, and FSC, where these groups (and the people working in those organizations) approach freedom from the legislative angle... in lobbying congress and trying to influence laws... I see that problems can have solutions.. using either high tech or low tech.

Addressing issues like 2257 from the legal angle is definitely needed and I know there are legal beagles out there looking to take on the challenge of dealing with the constitutionality of the new 2257 regulations.

Myself and all the other tech-heads that are creating 2257 solutions are addressing the problem from the practical standpoint of what can a webmaster do to comply as best as they can with the law.

Even if the legal approach strikes down certain parts of 2257, there is alot of 2257 that will still be standing. It's understood by many of us that while 2257 is a record keeping statute meant to ensure that children are not used in production, it is clearly seen as a method and tool to shutdown adult websites (much like Protect Act was used to shutdown CP websites - stretching the original intent of the law).

Self-policing and setting of industry standards is normal for all mainstream industries that grow beyond their infancy.

The online adult entertainment industry has matured and is facing issues just like other industries (ie. patents, regulations, etc).

This is why organizations like FSC, IMPA, and ASACP are looking to give guidance to webmasters to follow best practices in order to not have legislation passed, to regulate the industry by those that don't even understand the industry.

If Acacia wasn't the wake-up call, then 2257 is the banging on the door to get yo azz out of bed.

As you start to hear about efforts that FSC or IMPA are doing in areas of 2257, please pay attention. Having a large group come together to address important issues is the way to make positive change. This means supporting efforts that look to protect your interests with both your time, your vote, and financial contributions.



-brandon

Trax 08-20-2004 07:40 AM

This needs a bump!

Dead13 08-20-2004 08:37 AM

Why in the hell won't the mods pin this thread, since it has been requested by several members several times so far?

nwbsd 08-20-2004 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
Why in the hell won't the mods pin this thread, since it has been requested by several members several times so far?

what he said.

Aquarius 08-20-2004 10:21 AM

Bump

... 08-20-2004 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
Why in the hell won't the mods pin this thread, since it has been requested by several members several times so far?
Because the mods will only pin something if you pay them.


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