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Old 05-29-2001, 04:53 PM   #1
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How big is Porn?

Forbes takes a guess...
http://www.forbes.com/2001/05/25/052...ahoo&referrer=

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Old 05-29-2001, 04:58 PM   #2
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you're gay.
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Old 05-29-2001, 05:00 PM   #3
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Old 05-29-2001, 05:05 PM   #4
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Susan, he's not rude, that's his new "dom" role pick up line....
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Old 05-29-2001, 05:14 PM   #5
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they are way off. The billing companies do more then that a month.

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Old 05-29-2001, 05:27 PM   #6
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Melissa,

I agree, they are probably way off... but, There's no way the billing companies bill more than a BILLION dollars a month.

1,000,000,000 / $20.00 = 50,000,000 / Daily (full) Membership Transactions

That comes out to over 1,666,666 daily memberships @ $20/month.

I don't think we have enough paying porn surfers to bill that much. Either way, I'd say that article down playing the size of the industry is far better than an article that goes the other direction and pumps it up. I'd rather have the industry fly under radar.

Interesting article nevertheless.

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Old 05-29-2001, 05:27 PM   #7
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Uraguay? Of course, that would be another one of Standard Internet's blacklisted countries, lol

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Old 05-29-2001, 05:43 PM   #8
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If Ashcroft tries to stamp out porn, I think the telephone companies will come knocking on Bush's door to whisper some facts into his ear.

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Old 05-29-2001, 05:48 PM   #9
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Melissa,

I agree, they are probably way off... but, There's no way the billing companies bill more than a BILLION dollars a month.

1,000,000,000 / $20.00 = 50,000,000 / Daily (full) Membership Transactions

That comes out to over 1,666,666 daily memberships @ $20/month.

I don't think we have enough paying porn surfers to bill that much. Either way, I'd say that article down playing the size of the industry is far better than an article that goes the other direction and pumps it up. I'd rather have the industry fly under radar.

Interesting article nevertheless.

-KC

"The porn business" is much more than pay site billings, though. It's phone sex, it's AVS, it's skin magazines and video sales and rentals. Someone once described romance novels as "porn for women." Let's figure that in, too.


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Old 05-29-2001, 05:56 PM   #10
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I agree that those other aspects should be added in.. I was simply responding to a comment Melissa made

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Old 05-29-2001, 06:00 PM   #11
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That would have to be antiporn I wonder if the writer is born again.
22.9 million unique for April LOL
I wonder how many unique hits sex tracker counter gets a day.
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Old 05-29-2001, 06:06 PM   #12
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PayCounter counted 35,000,000+ Unqs yesterday. 70,000,000 Impressions.

It would be interesting to see how that 22 million number was determined...

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Old 05-29-2001, 06:17 PM   #13
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Old 05-29-2001, 07:19 PM   #14
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So what is wrong with a Billion Dollars ??? If you take 1,000,000,000 / 12 months = $ 83333333 per month / $20 per account = 4166667 paying members per month. Lets assume everyone is working a 50/50 partnership program, so in order for a webmaster to make let's say 10K a month. They would have to have 1167 people paying in for them at $8.50/commission. So at a billion dollars there would be 3570 webmasters making 10K a month Then out of the 10K they pay for hosting, content, webmaster services, all that good stuff So I don't see that as being too far out of line. Maybe they are using fuzzy math


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Old 05-29-2001, 10:10 PM   #15
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Do You people ever read other posts here?
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/...ML/004025.html


Anyway.

Checked that couple of days ago.
Sextracker counted like round 50 millions of Uniques daily.

You dont suppose that each of them makes a signup right? I'd say (which cant be proven of course) it will be 1 out of ten.
At least that's the kind of stats I used to see on free sites. If Your sponsors are right and everything is fine than out of 10K on Your site You'll send approximately 1K on sponsor (that is if You dont use consoles of course, if You do then Your signup ratio simply falls).
That makes 5 million roughly to go and check all sponsors in the internet daily.

Lets take an average conversion of 1 on 1000.
(And that's I think is may be even too good).
That's approximately - 5000 signups a day.

How much is 1 signup then in average?
It depends a lot really on how it is handled.

Anyway it's anywhere between 40$ and 120$ I beleive.
Which makes a daily revenue anywhere between
200 000$ and 600 000$
and a month revenue between 6 millions up to 18 millions of dollars.

And that makes round 216 millions of dollars per year AT THE VERY FUCKING MAXIMUM where in reality I'd say it is only 72 cause I dont think that 1 on 1000 is fair and I dont think majority has a sign up cost of 120$.

As to other fields in online adult like HOSTING/CONTENT etc I think (can be easily wrong) I made a good point in the same discussion to which I made a link up there where I stated that as long as Your porn site is profitable and it's not that You've just started then what You're paying for all Your biz costs like content and hosting are the same money from signups.

What escapes me on the other hand is since when 72 million of dollars per year is a bad figure??? Since when 1 million is a bad figure?

Though it makes people with funny yellow cars and other guys who play casinos too much go around and bother why when half of internet is full of their ads they dont make a billion and fucking Forbes think they should???
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Old 05-29-2001, 10:43 PM   #16
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Old 05-30-2001, 01:46 AM   #17
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Old 05-30-2001, 07:10 AM   #18
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Susan, is that any way to talk to the smartest fucker on earth?

"anyway" isn't that another one of standard internet's banned countries?
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