heres the actual complaint itself

http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca5...?NoticeID=1330

My conversion rate with xpays is shocking.I have been promoting their paris video for months and still haven't reached the min payout of $150.:1orglaugh
I wouldn't be surprised if my conversion rate is something like 1:10000 plus
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Seriously? Interesting considering we have almost identical traffic sources.

WG

what is your account number so i can check your account out. we have dozens of webmasters doing better than 1:100 to hotelheiress counting front page clicks. and dozens doing better than 1:300 with lesser quality traffic.

11307

swami- you are sending to the drm and i recommend you use the hybrid ad with the $30 hotelheiress sales and 20% drm payout. you will make 4x to 10x the money :glugglug

also- for the search pages use:

http://www.hotelheiress.com/hh01.phtml?i=11307

I had a Hotel Heiress sale today. Fucking yippee huzzah.

My first in two and a half weeks. I've only been sending about 300 a day for the last month or so but it's not converting for shit.

Ah one can only dream of the TCG days of long ago...

swami you were 1:188 today on the drm btw. also i see from your linkfrom(tm) that a lot of your placements are google poland, google russia etc..

anyway- i wish you wrote in sooner as we would have recommended the switch to hotelheiress to boost your revenues like everyone else's. the drm model of trustfundgirls is chargeback-free but low revenue to the webmaster. there are too many variables with the download size etc.. with hotelheiress.com your surfer gets instant gratification and you get lots more money. an average affiliate doing $1000 per month with the drm will immediately be doing loads more xdollars(tm) with the conventional model.

xdollars(tm)

Dam you got that one too.

Long time no talk . .

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ton+girls-nude

OWEN- SWITCH TO HOTELHEIRESS!

We mailed announcements repeatedly and the ad works way better money-wise!

50 paris hilton video google listings

yo juliansosa! you going to fla??? say hi to you know who :)

owen - either change the 33 in your link to 11 or use

http://www.hotelheiress.com/hh01.phtml?i=11227

I need to talk to lensman as some of the board watchers seem to pay more attention to the board than to our program announcements :helpme

Google poland eh?!:Graucho Fuck I am a good seo.:1orglaugh

1:188 today.I notice that I have made 35 cents for the month so far.:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I will change some links to hotelheiress and give it a go.Thanks.

What's the 33 in my link? Am I that much of a moron ;) ?

actually swami you made $11 and change. watch your revenue jump now when you switch and infringing ads stop diluting your work :winkwink:

btw- we also credit on the check joins and dialer. NO SHAVE.

Additional processing, new design and creative all coming next week. (new creative produced in australia fyi)

glad we can put hh to the test with you:thumbsup

No Florida for me. .
Can you have Amanda hit me up some time I wanted to ask her something.

hi owen, i hope i did not offend you. the 33 is the site code in your listed link #1 on the google search i showed you. clients/11227/33 should be /11 or you can get fancy and use http://www.hotelheiress.com/hh01.phtml?i=11227

are you headed back to the bay area? kendra said you were in town. we have 49r's and giants tix if you want some.

juliansosa- i will hollar at amanda and make sure she has your digits. no fla :(

how's the anti spyware convert on non-mail???

It's hard to offend me if you say "do this to make money."

I'm trying to move out there but I need to save up enough cash for them thar big city prices.

Save me a seat for the Raiders/Jaguars in January!

Xpays someone wants to bring the skateboard ramp to Miami. And the Dj's, ala 2000 Vegas.

Low clicks GREAT ratios. If they see an add and they are intrested they buy. If they are not intrested they dont click and you do not loose the surfer..;)

speakthetruth: we had a lot of happy skate rats in that half-pipe and had a good old time.

http://www.adultgossip.com/showpics/

check out the old school show setup. those are the pics from the ramp days. i have seen people joke about that but we enjoyed every second. That was 4 years ago and we were a lot younger then in internet years of course :Graucho

juliansosa- please set me up an account

owen- we dumped the raiders tix this year. the quarterback situation has been way too frustrating. our friend is a part owner in the raiders and we can reacquire the tix anytime though. i will keep an eye on your account to see how we can help grow it!

Think I will need armed guards too... I don't wanna fuck with those Mad Max-looking Raiders fans.

Since when was a SEARCH ENGINE the fucking internet police?


This is gay. If they got a problem with a site showing up in serps, go after the damn site owner, not the engine that displays the site as a result on a page that was generated as part of a search script doing it's job. Google has nothing to do with it however I can see why they do it, let google take care of the problem for them so they can continue to ride the cash cow and not have to work themselves


I think people giving google a 'legal' hard time about it's results are plain and simple extorsionists and crooks takign advantage of people who are scared to death of the word "copyright"

Also, putting the legal squeeze on someone because they got a result with suposed "copyrighted term" is utter bullshit. Especialy if the ad materials being used are legit. Even if not legit who cares. It doesn't affect them if they do their own marketing to secure the keywords. Instead of these morons suing and threatenig anyone who does well, why don't they do well themselves and secure the words for themselves (it's called WORKING for results) instead of intimidatign everyone into not using them at all.


what next? Sue google unless ALL terms 'copyrighter' are forwarded directly to their own pages? What happens if a serps is done by accident and not intentional? Will they get legal emails too?


This stinks.



Xpays, you should be ashamed of yourself for being a part of this trend. People like your employer see someone doing well on a keyword they want for themselves, then shit hits the fan. Your boss should be WORKING to gain the keywords dontcha think? Worse is, it's not even his work it was paris who did the fucking.


Nasty trend Wait until someone does well with something, then get ont heir ass screaming copyrights then benefit from it. Almost, Acacia'ish

raiders fans are ludacris:winkwink: and then you go to a 49r's game and it's wine and cheese.

Done and emailed to you :)

i tried it for a while with the same result....total shit traffic

you should change your sig link to webmasters.adult.com

iwantchixx- actually google disabling left side links was shocking. the original issue was actually related to google profiting off of adwords clicks sent to sites that were breaking the rules. our client has a valid gripe and you are a little dramatic with the acacia reference. as to who cares if the ads are not legit- come on now. you can send your paris clicks wherever you want! if you use illegal tactics though, then that is on you. nobody says the links have to go to us or our client's video partners. just don't mislead or deceive the surfer and do not steal images or clips.

yes jacexxx- as you and i have bantered before- the trustfundgirls drm model was not the most profitable for anyone. that is why we launched a conventional paysite and now sales are waaaaaaay higher every day. http://HotelHeiress.com - check alexa and look at the last 3 months growth and have a nice day. the members are happy. also we are securing 3-1/2 hrs of new paparazzi footage of paris to add.

I never said anything about decieving anyone. I agree, if deceptive and a bold faced lie in the serps, then it is an issue to be dealing with google about providing it's actualy google's fault. If it's deceptive ads on the actual site. There is NO reason to go after google about it unless google owns the actual site. Deal with the site owner themselves. It's just that simple. Going after google everytime a copyright holder gets cranky is going to hurt everyone in the long run. it will get to teh point that google will say "ya know, fuck this, lets just shitcan all paris hilton serps". That will hurt more than just people "infringing" and being "deceptive" it will also hurt those who are 100 percent legit and those who are just talking about paris hilton as well as a good chunk of hilton hotel results that have the word paris in them for some reason or another. see what I am saying? it's a downward spiral

iwantchixx- yes that is a huge risk and we already lost several #1's due to google's reaction. i know how much time is spent dealing with infringers every single day and how much damage is done. in this case, it is like a leg had to be amputated to save the person. hopefully it stops here and the people who caused the need for this follow through will stop the shenanigans. considering you see zero spam/email and google is a huge source of traffic for this, the last thing we want is for rick's attornies to push any search engine too far. only 11 urls were removed according to the info i have here. can you imagine how much more money all the legit promoters would have made so far if consumptionjunction and others had not posted the whole video for free? even when it's "just" deceiving a surfer into joining a site with the lure of the video and then not having it- the surfers will never join the legit site after that. We have numerous emails from surfers who have been duped and are very gunshy about hitting the join button due to the fact they were hustled before.

That was a blog spammer anyway. And it's good to see Google takes action against this kind of infringements.

So does the issue of legality apply to sponsors selling the DVD?

And if so, how are we supposed to determine who's legit and who isn't?

Hi Groove,

There are 3 basic ways to be safe:

1) promote hotelheiress and/or trustfundgirls in accordance with our tos of course.

2) promote the sale of the dvd. if you get paid per dvd sale or a percentage of the sale then that is a good signal that your store sponsor is legitimate. ce, pecash, mallcom etc. are good examples of real dvd stores where the surfer is actually buying a product for physical delivery for example.

3) send the traffic wherever you please but do not do so in an unauthorized manner (ie. stolen images, stolen video, misleading text/graphics etc.).


XPays has the exclusive rights to distribute the Paris Hilton/Rick Salomon sex video(s) for online delivery. Any format that allows the customer to pay and play falls into this category. If you are ever in doubt you can always email or call us at XPays for an opinion. We hope that there will be less confusion as well.

Thanks for the prompt reply, that helped clarify things :)

This is a joke lol

I won't promote any of that paris shit no more

groove- you are welcome and thanks to you for asking a good question.

trax- that is up to you. but perhaps you should reconsider- it seems like every week to two weeks that paris has some sort of publicity that promoters benefit from. if your links are not up then it will be too late to ride the waves.

we even have new footage of paris from last weekend in our new paparazzi deal. we played a few hours of the footage at a bbq over the weekend and every girl there was glued to the monitor- i asked them why and they said "to see what she is wearing". there is a new hook coming out shortly.... love paris or hate paris, love rick or hate rickl- business is business and we recommend that webmasters offer what the consumer wants rather than not. if they want toasters, give em toasters- (name who's quote that was)

Seth W

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