Starting out with AVS today?

**NoCarrier** · 08-08-2004, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
the main problem is that most avs linklists have a billion sites and the traffic volume you get is minimal from most of them

Well then you have to build 10 billion sites

Go with micro-niches.

**xxxdesign-net** · 08-08-2004, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
I can see why you're not making money. You just don't know anything.

What makes you better than cybersexnetwork or netverifier...?
Their commission plans are significantly higher that yours...

**Holly** · 08-08-2004, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
What makes you better than cybersexnetwork...

I agree. Cybersexnetwork is *so* much better than that shit of his. He should probably take a lesson or two from it's owner about better payouts.

**VeriSexy** · 08-08-2004, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by biglou
I am so glad you brought up this point, brujah. When Adult Check and the Judas Webmasters made the big change, we were told that this was because VISA would pull the plug w/o them... And yet, CyberAge makes minimal changes (still processing.) ProAdult makes fewer changes (still processing.) It's time for AC and their chosen few webmasters to admit what they really are... Crooks who are more than willing to stab 5000+ other webmasters in the back.

CyberAge
ProAdult

**Semi-Retired-Dave** · 08-08-2004, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
What makes you better than cybersexnetwork or netverifier...?
Their commission plans are significantly higher that yours...

I have no problem with Netverifier, good choice there, and we own CyberSexNetwork too. Along with UGAS.com too.

So any of these are good.

I advertise CyberAge here that is why I said CyberAge, its the most common one.

**Semi-Retired-Dave** · 08-08-2004, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Holly

I agree. Cybersexnetwork is *so* much better than that shit of his. He should probably take a lesson or two from it's owner about better payouts.

One has better payouts and the other has higher click thur payouts. Its the same company, but thanks for the props. I should take a lesson from its owners. Let me go see if I can find them.

**Sarah_Jayne** · 08-08-2004, 12:27 PM

if cyberage wasn't good I would spend all my AVS energy on them. The rebills are fantastic. Just find your niche and promote on more that their link list is what I would say.

**Antonio** · 08-08-2004, 12:38 PM

Hey Dave. Does it still take 3 years to approve (or decline) someone's application? I believe I sent mine about 3 years ago and I'm still waiting for the outcome. Send couple of e-mails back then - no reply whatrsoever. Thanks but no thanks.

**makefuckingmoney** · 08-08-2004, 01:01 PM

Dave,

answer me this..

how long have you owned cyberage?

**makefuckingmoney** · 08-08-2004, 01:02 PM

show me the errors in my quote please..

teach me oh great one!

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Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
use adult check they have been around forever!

take your money up front..

1. recurrings are basically in control of the program operator..should that operator have CB issues you lose all your recurrings.

2. AVS is very gray area..should visa clamp down on AVS, you would then again lose all your recurrings.

Risk VS Reward..in doing recurrings in a regular program that is somewhat debateable, doing them in an AVS and you are borderline retarded.

That said..good luck!
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I can see why you're not making money. You just don't know anything.

**http** · 08-08-2004, 01:03 PM

That is the problem with Cyberage, the "secret handshake" AVS. It is hugs and kisses for those who keep in "touch" with them 24/7 but you'll find yourself in a world of pain if you are looking for clear, open rulels that apply to everyone. Rude reviewers too. I do agree that once in, a premium site can generate a very constant income flow. But it is still NOT worth it in the end. The whole appeal process is WAAAAAYYYY to time consuming and not professional because not based on set, strict rules that are open to read for everyone. Basically everything goes on a "case by case" basis. I rather know exactly where I am at, and whether a site is going to get accepted or not, BEFORE I even send that site to them. Standard with other AVS'

Those who love Cyberage just confirm what I said above. Hugs and kisses for some, not so nice for the rest

**xxxdesign-net** · 08-08-2004, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by sarah_webinc
if cyberage wasn't good I would spend all my AVS energy on them. The rebills are fantastic. Just find your niche and promote on more that their link list is what I would say.

what makes you choose cyberage over Cybersexnetwork ? Pay per click? I cant believe that makes it worth it...

**xxxdesign-net** · 08-08-2004, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
One has better payouts and the other has higher click thur payouts. Its the same company, but thanks for the props. I should take a lesson from its owners. Let me go see if I can find them.

and how's retention for both Cyberage and cybersexnetwork ? About the same?

Proadult claims to retain members on average for 8-9 months... I'll believe that if they can guarantee me at least 7 !

**makefuckingmoney** · 08-08-2004, 01:11 PM

I thought Jack owned cyberage?

I own 2 avs's..i just wouldnt recommend someone putting a lot of time into starting them without knowing the risks.

heck try and take an avs system to ccbill for processing..they wont even accept them..unless they have changed recently.

If you know what your doing, and you know how to work them, they are very profitable..BUT if you are going to invest a ton of time into them, use it to figure out google and adwords etc..not avs..

if you want me to blow smoke up your butt, I can send my lackeys over to this thread..

**bigdog** · 08-08-2004, 01:11 PM

looks like a good thread is coming

Starting out with AVS today?

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