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  • Sly_RJ
    Live Hard - Die Hard
    • Feb 2002
    • 17042
    #1

    Starting out with AVS today?

    A couple months back I started working with a traffic stream that many said didn't work anymore. Four months later it seems to be doing just fine for me.

    So, my question is... if I started building and submitting AVS sites tonight, would they still make "decent" money after 4-5 months of consistent submitting?
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    • tolik
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2001
      • 2035
      #2
      while avs systems be work.

      i can reccomend you use these 2 programms for this:


      http://www.goldxpass.com/webmaster/?tolik


      http://bxdx.com/cgi-bin/signup.cgi?ID=155
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      Webmaster friendly high recommended programs to promote (personal experience):
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        • AgentCash
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2002
          • 720
          #3
          As long as you're a consistent builder, you can reap the rewards. Excellent conversions but the internal linklist traffic is low compared to many other traffic sources. To make the most of it, you need to work both the front & back end.

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            • twistyneck
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jan 2002
              • 4660
              #4
              Don't need to build all day. Promote all day instead.

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                • tolik
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 2035
                  #5
                  Originally posted by AgentCash
                  As long as you're a consistent builder, you can reap the rewards. Excellent conversions but the internal linklist traffic is low compared to many other traffic sources. To make the most of it, you need to work both the front & back end.
                  internal linklist traffic - 100% of people who already payed per porn via internet.

                  psyhical barrier broken for these people - they pay once - they be paying more.

                  atleast at some of my old amateur sites i still have 1:5-10 ratio at sponsors (banner+desc in avs site member area)
                  LONGBUCKS-Teen, Mature, Reality, Gay sites.
                  Free hosting (cgi/php/mysql/cron etc). FHGs. Free content.Great rebills. Support icq - 313-882-945

                  Webmaster friendly high recommended programs to promote (personal experience):
                  RoyalCash-Teen ProfitX -Video SmokinCash-Amateur,Lesbo,Squirting

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                    • makefuckingmoney
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3277
                      #6
                      use only freeavs's..

                      the rest suck balls

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                        • twistyneck
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 4660
                          #7
                          Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                          use only freeavs's..

                          the rest suck balls
                          OMG - someone give this guy the Dipshit of the Century Award!

                          Wanna make real money? Build a few CyberAge sites that convert then work the shit out of them. Get a steady stream of rebills and take the next year or two off.

                          Anyone that chooses a free system over a premium system either has shitty traffic or is a shitty site builder.

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                            • AgentCash
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 720
                              #8
                              Originally posted by tolik
                              internal linklist traffic - 100% of people who already payed per porn via internet.

                              psyhical barrier broken for these people - they pay once - they be paying more.

                              atleast at some of my old amateur sites i still have 1:5-10 ratio at sponsors (banner+desc in avs site member area)
                              Exactly. Some of the best traffic out there, just wish there was more of it

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                                • Theo
                                  HAL 9000
                                  • May 2001
                                  • 34515
                                  #9
                                  the main problem is that most avs linklists have a billion sites and the traffic volume you get is minimal from most of them

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                                    • xxxdesign-net
                                      My hips don't lie
                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 10129
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by twistyneck
                                      OMG - someone give this guy the Dipshit of the Century Award!

                                      Wanna make real money? Build a few CyberAge sites that convert then work the shit out of them. Get a steady stream of rebills and take the next year or two off.

                                      Anyone that chooses a free system over a premium system either has shitty traffic or is a shitty site builder.

                                      whats your average retentention (#months)?

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                                        • BradM
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 3397
                                          #11
                                          Sure.

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                                            • twistyneck
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 4660
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                              whats your average retentention (#months)?
                                              A long time but I've never actually figured it out. They seem to either quit the same day or stay forever. All I know for sure is that even though I make sales, I don't really need to.

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                                                • xxxdesign-net
                                                  My hips don't lie
                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 10129
                                                  #13
                                                  The problem also with recurring is if ever there's an industry change concerning AVS.. or the AVS program you are using pull the plug.. you are toast.. Usually pay per signup will pay you for 2.5 months average retention..

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                                                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                      • 11190
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                      use only freeavs's..

                                                      the rest suck balls
                                                      Wrong info here buddy. I see our sales history everyday. THAT IS SO WRONG.

                                                      Need help setting up, we've been around since 96 and the system works.
                                                      Support a Good Cause

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                                                        • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                          • 11190
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by twistyneck
                                                          OMG - someone give this guy the Dipshit of the Century Award!

                                                          Wanna make real money? Build a few CyberAge sites that convert then work the shit out of them. Get a steady stream of rebills and take the next year or two off.

                                                          Anyone that chooses a free system over a premium system either has shitty traffic or is a shitty site builder.
                                                          Thank you buddy, very well said.
                                                          Support a Good Cause

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                                                            • baddog
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 107089
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by twistyneck
                                                              Don't need to build all day. Promote all day instead.
                                                              Precisely

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                                                                • BruceM
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 4084
                                                                  #17
                                                                  While I am not doing much AVS stuff presently, I still make some ok money off of Cyberage.

                                                                  Dave's program is the best I have found.
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                                                                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                      • 11190
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by BruceM
                                                                      While I am not doing much AVS stuff presently, I still make some ok money off of Cyberage.

                                                                      Dave's program is the best I have found.
                                                                      Thanks buddy, that is what I like to hear.
                                                                      Support a Good Cause

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                                                                        • Brujah
                                                                          Beer Money Baron
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 22157
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Why do VISA policies and such affect other AVS's but not ALL ? What's the difference between say Adultcheck, Site Pass, or some of the remaining open AVS systems ?

                                                                          Some may be hesitant to invest a significant recurring income strategy with an AVS company as a result.

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                                                                            • makefuckingmoney
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 3277
                                                                              #20
                                                                              use adult check they have been around forever!

                                                                              take your money up front..

                                                                              1. recurrings are basically in control of the program operator..should that operator have CB issues you lose all your recurrings.

                                                                              2. AVS is very gray area..should visa clamp down on AVS, you would then again lose all your recurrings.

                                                                              Risk VS Reward..in doing recurrings in a regular program that is somewhat debateable, doing them in an AVS and you are borderline retarded.

                                                                              That said..good luck!

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                                                                                • zentz
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                  • 8062
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  http://www.adultsallowed.com/wm/index.php/1937

                                                                                  free hosting, free content, good convertions, good retentions, high payouts

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                                                                                    • mardigras
                                                                                      Bon temps!
                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                      • 14194
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                      use adult check they have been around forever!
                                                                                      Care to post us the webmaster signup page for AdultCheck?
                                                                                      .

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                                                                                        • biglou
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 595
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                          Why do VISA policies and such affect other AVS's but not ALL ? What's the difference between say Adultcheck, Site Pass, or some of the remaining open AVS systems ?

                                                                                          Some may be hesitant to invest a significant recurring income strategy with an AVS company as a result.
                                                                                          I am so glad you brought up this point, brujah. When Adult Check and the Judas Webmasters made the big change, we were told that this was because VISA would pull the plug w/o them... And yet, CyberAge makes minimal changes (still processing.) ProAdult makes fewer changes (still processing.) It's time for AC and their chosen few webmasters to admit what they really are... Crooks who are more than willing to stab 5000+ other webmasters in the back.
                                                                                          Smutworks Soon... It returneth.

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                                                                                            • Holly
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 10017
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                              Care to post us the webmaster signup page for AdultCheck?
                                                                                              Here you go:

                                                                                              http://wesuckbigcocks.com/wealsofuckwebmasters.html
                                                                                              War National Damn Champions Eagle

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                                                                                                • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                                  Now with more Jayne
                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                  • 40077
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  yup, like has been said it is about promotion these days. Promotion and finding a few niches to work the ass off of until you can't work it any more

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                                                                                                    • iwantchixx
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                      • 12860
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      My concern would be, say if a person built 100 avs sites. then a month later the avs system decides to impose new changes that are IMPOSSILE to do within the aloted 3 seconds they give you. Sound familiar avs guys?

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                                                                                                        • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                                          Now with more Jayne
                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                          • 40077
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                                                          My concern would be, say if a person built 100 avs sites. then a month later the avs system decides to impose new changes that are IMPOSSILE to do within the aloted 3 seconds they give you. Sound familiar avs guys?
                                                                                                          I pretty much only use CyberAge these days just because I don't really have time to do sites for more than them but whenever they have changed rules they have given weeks, if not months for people to change things.

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                                                                                                            • montel
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                              • 2606
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              as someone said, all u have to do is to promote it all day.
                                                                                                              Barefootsies

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                                                                                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                  • 11190
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                  use adult check they have been around forever!

                                                                                                                  take your money up front..

                                                                                                                  1. recurrings are basically in control of the program operator..should that operator have CB issues you lose all your recurrings.

                                                                                                                  2. AVS is very gray area..should visa clamp down on AVS, you would then again lose all your recurrings.

                                                                                                                  Risk VS Reward..in doing recurrings in a regular program that is somewhat debateable, doing them in an AVS and you are borderline retarded.

                                                                                                                  That said..good luck!
                                                                                                                  I can see why you're not making money. You just don't know anything.
                                                                                                                  Support a Good Cause

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                                                                                                                    • maxjohan
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                      • 7219
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tolik
                                                                                                                      psyhical barrier broken for these people
                                                                                                                      I like that part, because its so true.



                                                                                                                      btw, does most AVS's accept different kinds of
                                                                                                                      pics or do you need sets?
                                                                                                                      Last edited by maxjohan; 08-08-2004, 11:52 AM.
                                                                                                                      I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                                                                                        • NoCarrier
                                                                                                                          We need more free porn
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                          • 16356
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                                          the main problem is that most avs linklists have a billion sites and the traffic volume you get is minimal from most of them
                                                                                                                          Well then you have to build 10 billion sites

                                                                                                                          Go with micro-niches.

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                                                                                                                            • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                              My hips don't lie
                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                              • 10129
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                                                                              I can see why you're not making money. You just don't know anything.
                                                                                                                              What makes you better than cybersexnetwork or netverifier...?
                                                                                                                              Their commission plans are significantly higher that yours...
                                                                                                                              Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 08-08-2004, 12:02 PM.

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                                                                                                                                • Holly
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 10017
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                  What makes you better than cybersexnetwork...


                                                                                                                                  I agree. Cybersexnetwork is *so* much better than that shit of his. He should probably take a lesson or two from it's owner about better payouts.
                                                                                                                                  War National Damn Champions Eagle

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                                                                                                                                    • VeriSexy
                                                                                                                                      Join The Royal Family
                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 25463
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by biglou
                                                                                                                                      I am so glad you brought up this point, brujah. When Adult Check and the Judas Webmasters made the big change, we were told that this was because VISA would pull the plug w/o them... And yet, CyberAge makes minimal changes (still processing.) ProAdult makes fewer changes (still processing.) It's time for AC and their chosen few webmasters to admit what they really are... Crooks who are more than willing to stab 5000+ other webmasters in the back.
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                                                                                                                                        • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 11190
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                          What makes you better than cybersexnetwork or netverifier...?
                                                                                                                                          Their commission plans are significantly higher that yours...
                                                                                                                                          I have no problem with Netverifier, good choice there, and we own CyberSexNetwork too. Along with UGAS.com too.

                                                                                                                                          So any of these are good.

                                                                                                                                          I advertise CyberAge here that is why I said CyberAge, its the most common one.
                                                                                                                                          Support a Good Cause

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                                                                                                                                            • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 11190
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Holly


                                                                                                                                              I agree. Cybersexnetwork is *so* much better than that shit of his. He should probably take a lesson or two from it's owner about better payouts.
                                                                                                                                              One has better payouts and the other has higher click thur payouts. Its the same company, but thanks for the props. I should take a lesson from its owners. Let me go see if I can find them.
                                                                                                                                              Support a Good Cause

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                                                                                                                                                • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                                                                                  Now with more Jayne
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 40077
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  if cyberage wasn't good I would spend all my AVS energy on them. The rebills are fantastic. Just find your niche and promote on more that their link list is what I would say.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Antonio
                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 14136
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Hey Dave. Does it still take 3 years to approve (or decline) someone's application? I believe I sent mine about 3 years ago and I'm still waiting for the outcome. Send couple of e-mails back then - no reply whatrsoever. Thanks but no thanks.

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                                                                                                                                                        • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 3277
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Dave,

                                                                                                                                                          answer me this..

                                                                                                                                                          how long have you owned cyberage?

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                                                                                                                                                            • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 3277
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              show me the errors in my quote please..

                                                                                                                                                              teach me oh great one!





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                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                              use adult check they have been around forever!

                                                                                                                                                              take your money up front..

                                                                                                                                                              1. recurrings are basically in control of the program operator..should that operator have CB issues you lose all your recurrings.

                                                                                                                                                              2. AVS is very gray area..should visa clamp down on AVS, you would then again lose all your recurrings.

                                                                                                                                                              Risk VS Reward..in doing recurrings in a regular program that is somewhat debateable, doing them in an AVS and you are borderline retarded.

                                                                                                                                                              That said..good luck!
                                                                                                                                                              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



                                                                                                                                                              I can see why you're not making money. You just don't know anything.

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                                                                                                                                                                • http
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1811
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  That is the problem with Cyberage, the "secret handshake" AVS. It is hugs and kisses for those who keep in "touch" with them 24/7 but you'll find yourself in a world of pain if you are looking for clear, open rulels that apply to everyone. Rude reviewers too. I do agree that once in, a premium site can generate a very constant income flow. But it is still NOT worth it in the end. The whole appeal process is WAAAAAYYYY to time consuming and not professional because not based on set, strict rules that are open to read for everyone. Basically everything goes on a "case by case" basis. I rather know exactly where I am at, and whether a site is going to get accepted or not, BEFORE I even send that site to them. Standard with other AVS'

                                                                                                                                                                  Those who love Cyberage just confirm what I said above. Hugs and kisses for some, not so nice for the rest

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                                                                                                                                                                    • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                                                      My hips don't lie
                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 10129
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                                                                                                      if cyberage wasn't good I would spend all my AVS energy on them. The rebills are fantastic. Just find your niche and promote on more that their link list is what I would say.
                                                                                                                                                                      what makes you choose cyberage over Cybersexnetwork ? Pay per click? I cant believe that makes it worth it...

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                                                                                                                                                                        • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                                                          My hips don't lie
                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 10129
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                                                                                                                          One has better payouts and the other has higher click thur payouts. Its the same company, but thanks for the props. I should take a lesson from its owners. Let me go see if I can find them.
                                                                                                                                                                          and how's retention for both Cyberage and cybersexnetwork ? About the same?

                                                                                                                                                                          Proadult claims to retain members on average for 8-9 months... I'll believe that if they can guarantee me at least 7 !

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                                                                                                                                                                            • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 3277
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I thought Jack owned cyberage?

                                                                                                                                                                              I own 2 avs's..i just wouldnt recommend someone putting a lot of time into starting them without knowing the risks.

                                                                                                                                                                              heck try and take an avs system to ccbill for processing..they wont even accept them..unless they have changed recently.

                                                                                                                                                                              If you know what your doing, and you know how to work them, they are very profitable..BUT if you are going to invest a ton of time into them, use it to figure out google and adwords etc..not avs..


                                                                                                                                                                              if you want me to blow smoke up your butt, I can send my lackeys over to this thread..

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                                                                                                                                                                                • bigdog
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6964
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  looks like a good thread is coming

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 3277
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      your just taking a double risk with a recurring based avs..

                                                                                                                                                                                      if you know that risk and promise NOT to cry if you lose your recurrings..then go for it..


                                                                                                                                                                                      I really dont care, Im not here promoting mine

                                                                                                                                                                                      Just know the risks

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                                                                                                                          Now with more Jayne
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 40077
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                                                                          what makes you choose cyberage over Cybersexnetwork ? Pay per click? I cant believe that makes it worth it...

                                                                                                                                                                                          well, the most honest answer I will give you is that I started with CyberAge and didn't move over. However, the per click does really add up if you have enough sites plus the middle page bonus on the lower level sites really does add up if you are adding sites on a regular basis. Plus, there is no rule to say you can't add your site to both networks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • DaLord
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 3318
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                                                                                                                                              I can see why you're not making money. You just don't know anything.
                                                                                                                                                                                              To be honest... that was my thought aswell.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3277
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Im off to the beach..gonna fire up my metal detector and try and make some money!


                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ill check back later if I remember.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Just know your risks..when adult check went under a lot of people were crying and surprised.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  In no way am I saying cyberage is in any trouble, I think they are a great system, but there are risks involved with recurring and with AVS style systems.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  These are all just my opinions..and they are worth what you paid for them!


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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sly_RJ
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 17042
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I thought Jack owned cyberage?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I own 2 avs's..i just wouldnt recommend someone putting a lot of time into starting them without knowing the risks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      heck try and take an avs system to ccbill for processing..they wont even accept them..unless they have changed recently.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If you know what your doing, and you know how to work them, they are very profitable..BUT if you are going to invest a ton of time into them, use it to figure out google and adwords etc..not avs..


                                                                                                                                                                                                      if you want me to blow smoke up your butt, I can send my lackeys over to this thread..
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Chris which ones do you own? I forget. Wasn't it Sexy AVS or something?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      By the way, I'm certainly not interested in starting up my own AVS system. I'm more interested in building and submitting sites to them. I have an assload of content sitting here that I may want to turn into a premium site.
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