Originally posted by kmanrox you could probably make a novel with the pictures of the people who died at the hands of saddam and osama.... a couple novels thick of mosaics..
you could probably make a novel with the pictures of the people who died at the hands of saddam and osama.... a couple novels thick of mosaics..
When you take into account the *real* numbers of dead - not just US soldiers - who died as a result of Bush's "errors of judgement", Saddam may not be far behind, but Osama is not even in the picture.
Since the day that imbecile was chucked out of his mother's womb, Bush has been responsible for many human lives - even before playing President. Since then, on his orders, *around* 12,000-18,000 Iraq civilians have been killed in Iraq alone - forget Afghanistan (the popular thing to do about Afghanistan is "forget it") - there are enough faces in that to make a really nice full body picture of the village idiot.
Also consider adding all those who will die as a direct result of Bush's conduct - ie.. all who are/will suffer from the effects of depleted uranium in the "US wars". Currently the readings on this in Iraq are 1900 times higher than normal and reports of cancers/infant deformities have already risen dramatically. DR will not go away quick - people will died of this for many decades thanks to the "liberation" of Iraq.
It is safe to double the *actual* death toll of the war with the
"seconadary effects" of DR alone. When this affects/kills US soldiers, they discuss "syndromes". Why the fuck is the US govt unable to state an actual fact? These guys are dying because of depleted uranium poisoning - not some ephemism. The poor health status and death rate in US troops from this is astounding - It takes little brain to see the effects on civilians who will still be living in places affected by DR.
SO.... That nice work of art with a load of US soldiers who were unfortunate to have died serving Bush, is a totally unrealistic view of the real world. It is a US view which does not even get close to the real world and the effects of war.
Originally posted by kmanrox you could probably make a novel with the pictures of the people who died at the hands of saddam and osama.... a couple novels thick of mosaics..
not supposed 2 bring that up, this is a knock Bush thread.
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When you take into account the *real* numbers of dead - not just US soldiers - who died as a result of Bush's "errors of judgement", Saddam may not be far behind, but Osama is not even in the picture.
Since the day that imbecile was chucked out of his mother's womb, Bush has been responsible for many human lives - even before playing President. Since then, on his orders, *around* 12,000-18,000 Iraq civilians have been killed in Iraq alone - forget Afghanistan (the popular thing to do about Afghanistan is "forget it") - there are enough faces in that to make a really nice full body picture of the village idiot.
Also consider adding all those who will die as a direct result of Bush's conduct - ie.. all who are/will suffer from the effects of depleted uranium in the "US wars". Currently the readings on this in Iraq are 1900 times higher than normal and reports of cancers/infant deformities have already risen dramatically. DR will not go away quick - people will died of this for many decades thanks to the "liberation" of Iraq.
It is safe to double the *actual* death toll of the war with the
"seconadary effects" of DR alone. When this affects/kills US soldiers, they discuss "syndromes". Why the fuck is the US govt unable to state an actual fact? These guys are dying because of depleted uranium poisoning - not some ephemism. The poor health status and death rate in US troops from this is astounding - It takes little brain to see the effects on civilians who will still be living in places affected by DR.
SO.... That nice work of art with a load of US soldiers who were unfortunate to have died serving Bush, is a totally unrealistic view of the real world. It is a US view which does not even get close to the real world and the effects of war.
got your tin foil hat on ??
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I love thoses mosaics pics ... I wonder how they are made
Originally posted by rayadp05
I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
so after 9/11, Bush shouldnt have done a damn thing but sit around and get his dick sucked like Clinton did, then you fucking democrats wouldnt be bitching about it..
well you would actually, like total idiots you'd be bitching about Bush not doing anything after our Country was attacked.
Originally posted by Jimmie so after 9/11, Bush shouldnt have done a damn thing but sit around and get his dick sucked like Clinton did, then you fucking democrats wouldnt be bitching about it..
well you would actually, like total idiots you'd be bitching about Bush not doing anything after our Country was attacked.
OSAMA = Iraq?
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Originally posted by bringer i wonder if kerry took pics of the civilians he killed in the freefire zones. maybe we could make a picture out of their faces
When your a solider and in the middle of a war you do what you have to do to survive. The solider doesn't get to decide if the war is right or wrong. They are just sent and they do their jobs regardless........... It's called serving your country (Government)
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Originally posted by VeriSexy When your a solider and in the middle of a war you do what you have to do to survive. The solider doesn't get to decide if the war is right or war. They are just sent and they do their jobs regardless........... It's called serving your country (Government)
so the soliders who tortured and photoed those iraq prisoners were onlying doing what they had to do? prisoners and old fisherman in boats are both defenseless.
Originally posted by Jimmie so after 9/11, Bush shouldnt have done a damn thing but sit around and get his dick sucked like Clinton did, then you fucking democrats wouldnt be bitching about it..
well you would actually, like total idiots you'd be bitching about Bush not doing anything after our Country was attacked.
Originally posted by bringer so the soliders who tortured and photoed those iraq prisoners were onlying doing what they had to do? prisoners and old fisherman in boats are both defenseless.
I am talking about Kerry, show me proof that Kerry did any of that. Kerry actually come back from Vietnam and had the guts to complain about what he saw in the war.
This man believes in human rights........
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Originally posted by VeriSexy I am talking about Kerry, show me proof that Kerry did any of that. Kerry actually come back from Vietnam and had the guts to complain about what he saw in the war.
This man believes in human rights........
he also believes that the things he said on camera during numerous interviews, were never said...
funny how that works, aint it... at least he's consistent I guess.
Originally posted by Jimmie it's been well known for years that IRAQ funded and harbored terrorists, dont act like its something new.
and we invaded IRAQ because they refused to follow the rules of the UN, that were put in place over a decade ago....
Bush refused to follow the rules of the UN too....
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Originally posted by VeriSexy I am talking about Kerry, show me proof that Kerry did any of that. Kerry actually come back from Vietnam and had the guts to complain about what he saw in the war.
This man believes in human rights........
he listed off many things that happened there and then commented on how he took part in them. mention of taking part in freefirezones is pointless if he only attacked soliders. how about him admitting breaking many rules of the geneva convention? i guess you buy his ignorance excuse.
How about telling the UN to go fuck themselves when they said no to invading Iraq?
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Originally posted by VeriSexy How about telling the UN to go fuck themselves when they said no to invading Iraq?
so we should just sit back and let countires that are known for hardboring and funding terrorists, and a country that has had over 10 years to comply with UN rules, to just slide under the radar screen?
i'm proud that BUSH had the balls to go in with or without help, and maybe u also noticed, we weren't alone in doing so.
Originally posted by VeriSexy How about telling the UN to go fuck themselves when they said no to invading Iraq?
since when is that a rule? why the fuck do we even have governments and leaders? we have the un here to make decisions for the world. if they said no to invading afghanistan what would your thoughts of been on that?
Originally posted by bringer since when is that a rule? why the fuck do we even have governments and leaders? we have the un here to make decisions for the world. if they said no to invading afghanistan what would your thoughts of been on that?
"and we invaded IRAQ because they refused to follow the rules of the UN, that were put in place over a decade ago...."
Hypocrisy, IRAQ needs to listen to the UN but if the UN doesn't agree with Bush then he can tell those Nations to go fuck themselves?
UN never said no to invading Afghanistan and there is reason. "OSAMA took responsibility for 911 attacks"
"Iraq war wasn't justified, U.N. weapons experts say"
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of course the U.N.'s weapons instructors are gonna say what they wanna say... the UN didnt want the US to attack IRAQ, do you think the weapons inspectors are gonna say anything other than what the UN wants them to say?
so after 9/11, Bush shouldnt have done a damn thing but sit around and get his dick sucked like Clinton did, then you fucking democrats wouldnt be bitching about it..
Iraq was responable for 9/11? well thats breaking news, you got the link?
Originally posted by Jimmie of course the U.N.'s weapons instructors are gonna say what they wanna say... the UN didnt want the US to attack IRAQ, do you think the weapons inspectors are gonna say anything other than what the UN wants them to say?
LOL then you can say anything you want then. With your logic I can say.
News agencys and the Fox news reporters made up stories about Sadamn and Osama so they would have a reason for the invasion.
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and? its true, iraq didnt follow the rules set forth by the un, but who really cares? its just one of the reasons the rightwingers use to justify the war. where are the wmd? no where to be found. all that shows is how useless the un truely is. why make sanctions and not enforce them? i dont see the point in waiting to remove supporters of terrorists until they attack and we can prove to EVERYONE that they funded and supported actions against us.
you sound like the same person who blames bush for 9/11.
its also very clear that had SADDAM HUSSEIN did what was asked of him, the war would have never happened....
It would have happened anyway, it had nothing to do with the UN, it had everything to do with the climate in the US after 9/11 and you all thinking that araq and Osami are the same bunch, it was done for one reason, because politically at home it was possible for him to do so, the time was right for him.
Im not against the war, but people like you who believe anything your told, without educating yourself on world politics are the reason that the US is less poular around the world than Iraq.
Originally posted by bringer and? its true, iraq didnt follow the rules set forth by the un, but who really cares? its just one of the reasons the rightwingers use to justify the war. where are the wmd? no where to be found. all that shows is how useless the un truely is. why make sanctions and not enforce them? i dont see the point in waiting to remove supporters of terrorists until they attack and we can prove to EVERYONE that they funded and supported actions against us.
you sound like the same person who blames bush for 9/11.
No, I just think attacking Iraq was wrong. Noting wrong with going after Osama. Took forever to find these articles, I remember Sadamn following UN orders to allow inspection but Bush was still not happy.
"UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- U.N. officials Friday discussed Iraq's offer to resume weapons talks, but a U.S. official at the United Nations said "we're skeptical" of the Iraqi diplomatic move, and a White House official dismissed it, saying, "Regime change is our goal."
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Originally posted by VeriSexy No, I just think attacking Iraq was wrong. Noting wrong with going after Osama. Took forever to find these articles, I remember Sadamn following UN orders to allow inspection but Bush was still not happy.
"UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- U.N. officials Friday discussed Iraq's offer to resume weapons talks, but a U.S. official at the United Nations said "we're skeptical" of the Iraqi diplomatic move, and a White House official dismissed it, saying, "Regime change is our goal."
President Bush continued to insist Monday that there was an operational link between former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida despite reports by the Senate Intelligence Committee and the commission that's investigating the Sept. 11 attacks that there was no evidence that Saddam and Islamic terrorists collaborated to kill Americans.
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Originally posted by bringer thats not the whole truth. saddam agreed to comply but not fully like the un sanctions instructed.
I been working hard digging old articles. Time for you to show me a link
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