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Jimmie 08-08-2004 02:05 AM

its also very clear that had SADDAM HUSSEIN did what was asked of him, the war would have never happened....

Johny Traffic 08-08-2004 02:05 AM

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so after 9/11, Bush shouldnt have done a damn thing but sit around and get his dick sucked like Clinton did, then you fucking democrats wouldnt be bitching about it..
Iraq was responable for 9/11? well thats breaking news, you got the link?

VeriSexy 08-08-2004 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by Jimmie
of course the U.N.'s weapons instructors are gonna say what they wanna say... the UN didnt want the US to attack IRAQ, do you think the weapons inspectors are gonna say anything other than what the UN wants them to say?
LOL then you can say anything you want then. With your logic I can say.

News agencys and the Fox news reporters made up stories about Sadamn and Osama so they would have a reason for the invasion.

:1orglaugh

bringer 08-08-2004 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by VeriSexy
"and we invaded IRAQ because they refused to follow the rules of the UN, that were put in place over a decade ago...."

Hypocrisy, IRAQ needs to listen to the UN but if the UN doesn't agree with Bush then he can tell those Nations to go fuck themselves?

UN never said no to invading Afghanistan and there is reason. "OSAMA took responsibility for 911 attacks"

"Iraq war wasn't justified, U.N. weapons experts say"

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/03/21/iraq.weapons/

and? its true, iraq didnt follow the rules set forth by the un, but who really cares? its just one of the reasons the rightwingers use to justify the war. where are the wmd? no where to be found. all that shows is how useless the un truely is. why make sanctions and not enforce them? i dont see the point in waiting to remove supporters of terrorists until they attack and we can prove to EVERYONE that they funded and supported actions against us.
you sound like the same person who blames bush for 9/11.

Johny Traffic 08-08-2004 02:13 AM

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its also very clear that had SADDAM HUSSEIN did what was asked of him, the war would have never happened....
It would have happened anyway, it had nothing to do with the UN, it had everything to do with the climate in the US after 9/11 and you all thinking that araq and Osami are the same bunch, it was done for one reason, because politically at home it was possible for him to do so, the time was right for him.

Im not against the war, but people like you who believe anything your told, without educating yourself on world politics are the reason that the US is less poular around the world than Iraq.

pxxx 08-08-2004 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by dimitar
Very creative it realy took time to make that thing but it's kinda sad:(
Yeah it is very sad to see something like that, Bush can rot in hell.:BangBang: :BangBang:

VeriSexy 08-08-2004 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
and? its true, iraq didnt follow the rules set forth by the un, but who really cares? its just one of the reasons the rightwingers use to justify the war. where are the wmd? no where to be found. all that shows is how useless the un truely is. why make sanctions and not enforce them? i dont see the point in waiting to remove supporters of terrorists until they attack and we can prove to EVERYONE that they funded and supported actions against us.
you sound like the same person who blames bush for 9/11.

No, I just think attacking Iraq was wrong. Noting wrong with going after Osama. Took forever to find these articles, I remember Sadamn following UN orders to allow inspection but Bush was still not happy.

"UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- U.N. officials Friday discussed Iraq's offer to resume weapons talks, but a U.S. official at the United Nations said "we're skeptical" of the Iraqi diplomatic move, and a White House official dismissed it, saying, "Regime change is our goal."

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLIT...h.iraqi.offer/

Monday, 18 November, 2002, 16:42 GMT
UN inspectors begin Iraq mission

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2488189.stm

bringer 08-08-2004 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by VeriSexy
No, I just think attacking Iraq was wrong. Noting wrong with going after Osama. Took forever to find these articles, I remember Sadamn following UN orders to allow inspection but Bush was still not happy.

"UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- U.N. officials Friday discussed Iraq's offer to resume weapons talks, but a U.S. official at the United Nations said "we're skeptical" of the Iraqi diplomatic move, and a White House official dismissed it, saying, "Regime change is our goal."

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLIT...h.iraqi.offer/

Monday, 18 November, 2002, 16:42 GMT
UN inspectors begin Iraq mission

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2488189.stm

thats not the whole truth. saddam agreed to comply but not fully like the un sanctions instructed.

VeriSexy 08-08-2004 02:25 AM

Pretty recent News

Bush again tries to link Saddam, al-Qaida

President Bush continued to insist Monday that there was an operational link between former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida despite reports by the Senate Intelligence Committee and the commission that's investigating the Sept. 11 attacks that there was no evidence that Saddam and Islamic terrorists collaborated to kill Americans.

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/9138246.htm

VeriSexy 08-08-2004 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
thats not the whole truth. saddam agreed to comply but not fully like the un sanctions instructed.
I been working hard digging old articles. Time for you to show me a link :)

bringer 08-08-2004 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by VeriSexy
Pretty recent News

Bush again tries to link Saddam, al-Qaida

President Bush continued to insist Monday that there was an operational link between former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida despite reports by the Senate Intelligence Committee and the commission that's investigating the Sept. 11 attacks that there was no evidence that Saddam and Islamic terrorists collaborated to kill Americans.

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/9138246.htm

just because iraq wasnt directly involved in 9/11 doesnt mean there are no ties between them and alqaida. with that said, bush is crazy if he still thinks he can still tell the public it was a group effort

VeriSexy 08-08-2004 02:30 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
just because iraq wasnt directly involved in 9/11 doesnt mean there are no ties between them and alqaida. with that said, bush is crazy if he still thinks he can still tell the public it was a group effort
Please show me and link. I want proof please..............

Saddam link to 9/11 not likely

June 17, 2004

There is "no credible evidence" that Saddam Hussein had any connection to the September 11 attacks by the al Qaeda terrorist network, a federal commission said yesterday.
The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, during a Capitol Hill hearing, said while a senior Iraqi intelligence officer met with al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden in 1994 and there were later meetings between Iraqi and al Qaeda officials in Afghanistan, "they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...0824-8358r.htm

Please sir, back yourself up..............

VeriSexy 08-08-2004 02:35 AM

Panel says Saddam didn't help al-Qaeda

WASHINGTON ? There is "no credible evidence" that Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaeda plan and train for attacks against the United States, the commission investigating the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks said Wednesday. That finding disputes a rationale the Bush administration gave for invading Iraq.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...11-panel_x.htm

In its report, the commission says that although bin Laden opposed Saddam's "secular regime," he "explored possible cooperation with Iraq" after he moved to Sudan in 1991. Saddam sent an intelligence officer to meet with bin Laden in 1994. But the report says Iraq never responded to his requests. Further, it says that "two senior bin Laden associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaeda and Iraq."

Still waiting sir..............

bringer 08-08-2004 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by VeriSexy
Please show me and link. I want proof please..............

Saddam link to 9/11 not likely

June 17, 2004

There is "no credible evidence" that Saddam Hussein had any connection to the September 11 attacks by the al Qaeda terrorist network, a federal commission said yesterday.
The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, during a Capitol Hill hearing, said while a senior Iraqi intelligence officer met with al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden in 1994 and there were later meetings between Iraqi and al Qaeda officials in Afghanistan, "they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...0824-8358r.htm

Please sir, back yourself up..............

i just said that
they werent involved with 9/11, but there were ties between the two.

Johny Traffic 08-08-2004 02:38 AM

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just because iraq wasnt directly involved in 9/11 doesnt mean there are no ties between them and alqaida
you really need to stop believing the shit you are being told, we all know there was no link. It was made up by your goverment to get support for a war, please open your eyes.

Infact Osama refers to Sadam as "the unbeleiver", becuase Osama is a religious nut and only cars about islam, sadam doesnt give a shit about it.

Just becuase they are both from the middle east doesnt meen they are all in everything together. This is a typical play by the US goverment to fool uneducated Americans into thinking the middle east is one small place with them all working together against the U.S and because middle america cant comprehend of a world outside the US they fool for it

VeriSexy 08-08-2004 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
i just said that
they werent involved with 9/11, but there were ties between the two.

What do you mean by ties? Please show me any proof.......... Please don't assume cause that's that Bush says.

bringer 08-08-2004 02:48 AM

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Originally posted by Johny Traffic
you really need to stop believing the shit you are being told, we all know there was no link. It was made up by your goverment to get support for a war, please open your eyes.

Infact Osama refers to Sadam as "the unbeleiver", becuase Osama is a religious nut and only cars about islam, sadam doesnt give a shit about it.

Just becuase they are both from the middle east doesnt meen they are all in everything together. This is a typical play by the US goverment to fool uneducated Americans into thinking the middle east is one small place with them all working together against the U.S and because middle america cant comprehend of a world outside the US they fool for it

i guess ill go read up more on this issue. its almost impossible to determine whats true and not these days because its all information passed on between many sources then to the media who twist it which ever way they want to push it ie fox news. you may be right on this issue though.

VeriSexy 08-08-2004 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
i guess ill go read up more on this issue. its almost impossible to determine whats true and not these days because its all information passed on between many sources then to the media who twist it which ever way they want to push it ie fox news. you may be right on this issue though.
how a loo ya!!! (Is that how you say it?) Someone see's the light

:)

Johny Traffic 08-08-2004 02:52 AM

All the shit put out by Bush and his administration is making people who think it was the right thing to do to invade Iraq turn against the war. People around the world knowing you guys beleive it when the rest of the world can see the lies is why Americans are thought of in such low esteam around the world.

You guys fall for it time and time again, the shit you are told, Sadam and osama links, its laughable, it was an excuse, the weapons inspectors, thats laughable another excuse.

Im not against the war, infact I was for it and still am, becuase of one reason that the polititions in the states wont say, because they think it will make them unpopluar, but if they told the truth people would understand.

The simple truth is we (US, UK, France, Russia) know he had the weapons, becuase it was the US, UK, France and Russia who sold them to him! whether or not he destroyed them is a different matter, if he did why didnt he show the inspectors? fuck knows he was a nutter. But he had them thats a fact and it wasnt worth the risk doing nothing about it.

bringer 08-08-2004 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by VeriSexy
how a loo ya!!! (Is that how you say it?) Someone see's the light

:)

well, im not going to say there were no ties because cnn and bbc tell me there werent if thats what you're thinking. :winkwink:
ill surely be reading many sources and come to a conclusion of my own which is what id love to see everyone else do.

VeriSexy 08-08-2004 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
well, im not going to say there were no ties because cnn and bbc tell me there werent if thats what you're thinking. :winkwink:
ill surely be reading many sources and come to a conclusion of my own which is what id love to see everyone else do.

I am just happy to see someone is willing to read and think for themselves instead of believing everything the government says.

bringer 08-08-2004 02:59 AM

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Originally posted by VeriSexy
I am just happy to see someone is willing to read and think for themselves instead of believing everything the government says.
yeah, who would of known the government lies to us on a daily basis? :1orglaugh

EviLGuY 08-08-2004 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
http://photomatt.net/dropbox/2004/04/bush-front.jpg

"President George Bush done in mosaic using pictures of the dead American soldiers sent to fight the war in Iraq"

when he'll win the elections there will be pics for the rest of the body

Wow thats so cool.. I love how the brain can meld all those little images together into a recognizable pic of Bush.

Corleone 08-08-2004 10:55 AM

Vote4Kerry

Doctor Dre 08-08-2004 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
just because iraq wasnt directly involved in 9/11 doesnt mean there are no ties between them and alqaida. with that said, bush is crazy if he still thinks he can still tell the public it was a group effort
If you would read a little more about politics before talking, you would know damn well Saddam And Bin Ladden HATE each others .

Saddam made his own version of islam and Bin Ladden don't accept that .

They have met once, I think in 1984 and it ended up there ... there is no fucking link between them

Doctor Dre 08-08-2004 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
i just said that
they werent involved with 9/11, but there were ties between the two.

You are soooooo wrong on this one ...

TweetyBird 08-08-2004 11:15 AM

I still don't know what to think of this one


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