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CDSmith · 05-16-2001, 11:18 AM

Wednesday, May 16th/2001 --

Dear diahrea --
I'm updating my TGP, having a nice cup of coffeee (mmmm, coffeeee). Just uploaded all of yesterday's approved submissions, over 45 in all. Then, some may not know this, but I make it a habit of going to my main page on the net and clicking each new submission, just to see if it has been changed in any way or if the page is still loading. So, did I say over 45 new galleries? Sorry, I find 2 that have been redirected to a white page with a huge "enter" link (to a sponsor no less), and 2 more that are not loading (one of which is on that new freehost 'clubtgp.com') -- Interesting... I'm down to 44 new additions.

Now for getting my reviews of all the submissions I recieved overnight and this morning, 80 in all...

First 2 are banner-farm index pages, but I wasn't quite paying attention on my fist click, so the page opened and downloaded some xxxporno thing to my bookmarks. Dialer perhaps? I delete the thing, blacklist both submissions (they are both from the same person) and move on.

Submission 3's descrip says "mega sponsor site", and is an index page as well. Blackfuckinglist for sure. Gone.

Submission 4's descrip says "teen series of young babe fucked by your friend"....okay, I'm curious. It's a "terra es" gallery, the submitters name is Igor -- I'm a little dubious, but oh well. I click, and get a fairly nice-looking gallery full of well done thumbs. The ads are a little excessive, but what the hell, as long as the full-size pics are appealing, I'll list it. I click the first thumb, and am wisked away to popup fucking hell. I have to use my witts and "ctrl-w" repeatedly to close all the chained pops coming up. I manage to overcome them finally,.....the blacklist button gets clicked so hard I hurt my knuckles.

Gallery 5 looks promising. I click, and wait.

and I wait.....

.......and I fucking wait.......

Then I close the window, and try it again......

and I grow old waiting...... I even click on the one thumb that does load, and you guessed it......I wait, and I wait.......

and I close, and I delete. Shit slow.

Gallery 6! Ahhhh, finally a regular submitter of mine, and sure enough, it loads up fast, the gallery is clean and clear of bullshit, and the thumbs all lead to full sized decent quality pics. Not hi-res, just decent, which is what I like. don't give the surfer too much good stuff, just enough to get them interested.

But, 1 our of 6?

People, when will some submitters fucking learn? Cheating get's you fuck - ALL. Period.
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Exxxotica · 05-16-2001, 11:26 AM

That's why I change my TGP to a regular site! What a pain in the ass! (and not the good type of pain either)

clubtgp.com

what's the deal with these guys? I hear they are supposed to be good, but I couldnt get upload anything to them this morning either.

Anybody hear much about them?

CDSmith · 05-16-2001, 12:52 PM

I'm actually really enjoying running a tgp, it's just that sometimes you need to let others know what goes on behind the scenes, you know?

So far today, out of 3 or 4 galleries that I've reviewed (or tried to review) from club tgp, 2 have simply not loaded at all, and the other ones downloaded some sort of bookmarked pay program to my system.

So far, their record isn't all that impressive.
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ez12 · 05-16-2001, 02:07 PM

a lot of tgp sites that are being submitted are on free servers and not all the server are as good so you cannot always blame the tgp poster, by the way what's your url , maybe we could make a deal I'll give you nice good loading gelleries with your button on it if you like ?

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Jamdin · 05-16-2001, 02:34 PM

I think clubtgp.com has been overwhemlmed. My site that I just started on Monday at http://www.clubtgp.com/hosting/moongem/index.html is already coming up 404 & their homepage is gone. Ah, well...another one bites the dust.

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ldinternet · 05-16-2001, 03:05 PM

As for reviewing galleries, make the submitters partners. When you have guys like web-nudes, crazybabe, sleazydream etc submitting daily, you don't even need to review their galleries.

At least - that's what I did. When I opened my first tgp I was running on a free host with the rule "no free hosts"... hahaha,,, kinda odd eh? Well, since I enforced that, I went from 700 to 6000 visitors in a WEEK. I only posted the best, but I made like $35 per week from it. Not even worth the effort.

And I kind of hit the roof at 6k.

Bake · 05-16-2001, 03:54 PM

The Joys of reviewing I must admit to being extremly tuff when doing it and some people ask why?? all we need is a simple cleanish gallery ,how fucking hard can it be ???
My blacklist grows longer every day I did a mass mail out to alot of my submiters and told if I didnt get a reply I wouldent post them 3 replyed ,so much for using your real email, well at least it cut my backlog of submits

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Clovis · 05-16-2001, 05:06 PM

Its nice to hear other TGP webmasters bitching - just like music to my ears.

Submitters please remember that its not any harder to submit a good gallery than a bad one. The only difference is that the good gallery will get you posted and the bad gallery will get you banned. Listed galleries equal cash in your pocket. Banned galleries equal cash in someone else's pocket and your wasted time.

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Quoth the Raven · 05-16-2001, 05:34 PM

I would beg to differ. After five years in this carnival freak show, I've noticed that clean galleries only benefit tgps(i.e. more exposure to their banners) and isps (i.e. higher bandwidth). So please, do not treat us like imbecile.

Quote:

Originally posted by Clovis:
The only difference is that the good gallery will get you posted and the bad gallery will get you banned... Banned galleries equal cash in someone else's pocket and your wasted time.

Lush · 05-16-2001, 05:42 PM

Use www.postforcash.com, then you'll only have to review 44 a day

Clean, quality galleries that update daily. And you get paid at the same time.

CDSmith · 05-16-2001, 05:42 PM

I'm sure I saved myself a lot of time with what I did last week.
Ya's wanna know what I dun did? heeeeeokay....

I deleted every gallery url in my blacklist. Why? Well, before I deleted each one, I saved that part of the url that would denote that person's actual account on the server

thus, eliminating them from submitting ANY galleries from that account. TGPM is so.......loveable for that alone. Now my blacklist is nice and streamlined, so I do get far less bullshit coming in, just once in a while (like today) (see 1st post in this thread) I get a glut of idiots who think they are smarter than me, or.....they think I'm a dummy or something. Or, they just don't think that the rules apply to them.
Whatever.

Thankfully, I do have a bunch of regular submitters that never miss, always submit good and very interesting galleries, and I can almost always take only a brief inspection before approve them. To you guys, keep em coming, I love you

I think that part of the problem is the submitters using auto-submission software. As in the case of one guy that I totally reamed out via email for breaking my rules, I think that many people just add a tgp to their auto-submit script, but they fail to read the rules.
Note to submitters: "ALWAYS READ THE FUCKING RULES"

My rules may seem like the rantings of a lunatic, but really, the main things I hate are popups, auto-downloading of anything to my system, pages with no thumbs just ads, and audio bullshit ads for sure. I ensure my surfers on my index page that they are in for some relaxed, QUIET surfing and that all of the links on the site have been checked for "cleanliness", and that's damn well the way it is on my site.

Anyone else need a turn here?
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Badgurl · 05-16-2001, 07:22 PM

I fell out of my chair I was laughing so hard, reading that post..still got tears rolling down my face...my husband thinks I went looney..heh-heh..I run a tgp..course I'm looney...

wacka - wacka - wacka..

No really..that was excellent...and it describes my day so well sometimes.

Only I get over 700 submissions a day ...

I gotta save that one, read it once in awhile when I'm at the end of my rope.

Phiber · 05-16-2001, 08:06 PM

One question to all you TGP owners... Whats a decent quality pic? About 450*300px image? Whats your opinion?

Would be good to know...

CDSmith · 05-16-2001, 10:20 PM

When I talk about image quality from the submitted gallery perspective, I'm not so much talking about the size (height vs width) of the pics as I am about the "clarity" of each full size pic. Blurry and grainy pics really tend to suck. The really ultra-clear high resolution pics are nice to look at, but they make me wonder why you are giving that level of quality away. I really prefer the "middle of the road" pics that are nice to look at, are fairly clear and of good quality, but that's it. They shouldn't give the surfer too damn much for free.

Your pics should literally scream "hey, these pics are optimized for the free area of the web......for the good stuff, click here (and fucking PAY)"

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tom · 05-16-2001, 10:51 PM

i would really appreciate it to get more feedback from tgp owners - if they like galleries they can send a short note and a partner id - a few handle it like that but most of the stuff i receive from tgps is spam! wonder why you guys need my e-mail adress ?

Gemini · 05-16-2001, 11:54 PM

I know this post will insure our fate to never get posted by CD, but here is a quote I loved: "ALWAYS READ THE F*CKING RULES" I took liberties with the vowel.

You fuss about the rules but are breaking a Federal Statute of "NO NUDITY ON THE WARNING PAGE". Thats not some simple Tgp owner rule, thats a LAW... Crime..., punishable offense..., get us all in trouble type thing.

Ahh I feel much better now. Almost as good as taking off a bra two sizes too small after a long boring date. And Men think we don't do anything special for 'em.

BTW, we never pull the BS with our gals. Dunno why some do really. Are they actually so dumb as to think they will make more money? It reminds me of cj's. Lets jerk someone around abit and sure they will buy from me lots of times. Just heard from 4 different surfers Weds night that they are buying from one of our sites after experiencing a real nasty cj.

CDSmith · 05-17-2001, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini:
You fuss about the rules but are breaking a Federal Statute of "NO NUDITY ON THE WARNING PAGE". Thats not some simple Tgp owner rule, thats a LAW... Crime..., punishable offense..., get us all in trouble type thing.

Excuse me? Do you really need me to point you to over a ba-fucking-zillion websites of major proportions that display far far far farrrrrrrrr fucking more nude content than what you can find on the index/warning page of my tgp. Get over it, I thought you were smarter than that Gem. Hit www.boneprone.com and see what you get. Hit just about anyadultsite.com and see what you get.

Get real. Why not just spell out what it is you're trying to say exacly?
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TheWatcher · 05-17-2001, 02:44 AM

Get this My TGP has ended up on every fucking straight site submitters list.. I run a GAY FUCKING TGP c'mon now. Out of the 20 to 30 submits i get a day 5 to 9 of them are actual gay sites. im like "Blacklist", "Blacklist", and "Blacklist". WTF geez.

anywho, anyone want to traffic trade send me an e-mail [email protected]

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Cali · 05-17-2001, 02:48 AM

Well, being a submitter for more than a year, I'm doing whatever I can to get partner status with the TGP's. It saves both me and the TGP owner some hassle every day. But the funny thing is, that not 10% of the TGP webmasters even bother to respond to emails asking for partner passes. I don't believe you get so much mail everyday that you can't spare the time to read it.

Also, I've written to some TGP's asking if it would be better for them, that I don't submit my galleries (this would also save hassle for both of us), because they don't list me anyway. Result? No one replied...

And for the record, I've never redirected, 404'ed or made any bullshit with my galleries. Hell, my first galleries are still up today.

Bake · 05-17-2001, 04:58 AM

I give passes and Traffic A pass is a trust thing If a webmaster sends me good quaility galleries all the Time I offer them one.I agree it much better for both of us,I do get 400 Emails a day but I do read the stuff people send me. Like I said in my earlyer Post I sent 200 reply emails to submiters and got 3 replys If people cant give me there real Emails why should I trust them sometimes I mite send a reply Like I think your server down or you made a little mistake can you fix it and let me know.
But If I see another Blury jion for free gallery I will Scream.
CD Smith I gave you a pass and I love your galleries but you havent sent me any for weeks???
Bake

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Steve · 05-17-2001, 12:12 PM

Just wait until your TGP has been around for a year or two. The spam is ridiculous. I get 30-70 private submnissions/day. Then, I add in other trusted galleries. After that, my reviewers and I go thru the submits. No matter which submit script I use, what rule changes I ask for - I still get several hundred spam autosubmits. I'm talkking about the dumb ones:recips to other sites(not mine), wrong catagory, 404 errors, broken images, and any other mistake you can imagine. And you can tell they are just spam, because the number remains failry constant, even though we do not link them. They just keep sending the same shit, wasting our time, making it that much more difficult to find good gallery submissions from webmasters who have their shit together.

Kat - Fast · 05-17-2001, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cali:
Well, being a submitter for more than a year, I'm doing whatever I can to get partner status with the TGP's. It saves both me and the TGP owner some hassle every day. But the funny thing is, that not 10% of the TGP webmasters even bother to respond to emails asking for partner passes. I don't believe you get so much mail everyday that you can't spare the time to read it.

Also, I've written to some TGP's asking if it would be better for them, that I don't submit my galleries (this would also save hassle for both of us), because they don't list me anyway. Result? No one replied...

And for the record, I've never redirected, 404'ed or made any bullshit with my galleries. Hell, my first galleries are still up today.

hello! Looks like we're in the same boat.

CDSmith · 05-17-2001, 04:06 PM

Yet, I too am myself a gallery submitter. I submit by hand only, no auto-shitter for me. And, I do not find that it is all that difficult to get listed on most of the good tgp's. (except for elephant list and al4a) The way to do it is to follow the fucking rules. How hard is it?

As for the submitters here, I'll tell you all this much; I will list your galleries if they are as you say they are, no problemo. My tgp is a "given" listing if you just keep your gallery nice and clean and good-looking with no crap. Your ads can be big, small or numerous, as long as the pics are there in the proper amount and order, and only legal content is approved. I get guys that submit to me pics of celebs and playboy centerfolds. Sorry, not on my watch.

oye Mick Bake! --
Ya, mate, I haven't been submitting galleries lately, I simply haven't had time. I've been working on too many other projects here to name, business is booming along here. I do have some new content in the hopper, and about 5 or 6 new models lined up for shoots, so I'll be starting up my submissions again soon. I'm also rethinking my ad strategies, as I really haven't had any great success with raising my income from gallery submitting lately.
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CDSmith · 05-17-2001, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hot Tropical Babes (from http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/...ML/003735.html :
who all uses it? The only thing I find frustrating while doing reviews is, people are using "Generic" descriptions over and over. Other than that, I love the program. I am hoping some of the "Submitters" read this thread HINT HINT

Yes, this is another thing I find annoying after a while. I get tired of seeing "naked babes getting nasty" describing 10 different galleries, and more than half of them have very little nudity and no nastiness at all. I think that autosubmission tools like TGSW make webmasters lazy. They either put these generic descriptions, or else they're writing a book-long description. SHEESH

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Hot Tropical Babes · 05-17-2001, 11:46 PM

Yeah! What he said!! hehe

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kush · 05-18-2001, 12:11 AM

I think you all have every right to bitch. I dont send out bad galleries (though once I accidentally redirectly all my gallery pages to my home page for 1/2 day when I was fucking around with .htacccess), but I know plenty of people submit shit/cheater galleries and it makes it more difficult for me to get good listings so fuck them!

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CDSmith · 05-18-2001, 12:54 PM

WOW, only had to remove one gallery from my main page today for changing their shit around to cheat. Kewl.

However, while reviewing 105 other new submissions, I actually had to blacklist a guy that always gives me recip galleries. I hate to do that, but when you get 3 fucking dialers downoaded, plus an exit pop and piss-poor quality pics all from the same submission, it's time for the kill switch.
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kush · 05-18-2001, 08:48 PM

Why not create a "preferred submitters" page?

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CDSmith · 05-18-2001, 09:22 PM

Don't think I haven't thought about it. I don't think I'm quite ready for that just yet though. I'll wait until my traffic grows up some, and then I'll impliment such a page.

Honestly, I hope no one thinks I started this thread so that I could bitch and whine or anything, that's not what this conversation is about. As others may have said, this is mainly to get an ongoing discussion going between tgp owners and gallery submitters. I thought it would be nice for some of us to have a place to go to and talk about our experiences with this area of adult webmastering, and talk about what may be wrong with the process too. And ya, maybe vent a little plasma from your warp core now and then (closet Trekie here)
There's a lot to be said for the old expression "misery loves company", but more than that is that it's nice to be able to commiserate with others that may be going through the same things as you (or me).
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unijester · 05-19-2001, 02:02 AM

What I think is funny is those people who I've had blacklisted for months now and they still submit every day... guess they don't use referrer stats. Also what pisses me off if people who submit like 10 galleries a day will all very similar layouts but different names and emails and expect me to think they are all from different webmasters.

I run a clean tgp and hand check all my galleries, if anyone would like to trade traffic drop me a line at [email protected]

Bill
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[This message has been edited by unijester (edited 05-19-2001).]

TheEnforcer · 05-19-2001, 01:57 PM

First 2 are banner-farm index pages, but I wasn't quite paying attention on my fist click, so the page opened and downloaded some xxxporno thing to my bookmarks. Dialer perhaps? I delete the thing, blacklist both submissions (they are both from the same person) and move on.

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Fuck me.. been hearing more and more about this kind of favorites stuff.. any way to prevent it from happening?? Is it just an IE weakness or does it happen in Netscape too... sucks when you get somebody putting whatever they want on your computer.

scarabst · 05-20-2001, 10:54 PM

Give us a try at http://freepages.infoextra.com

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PrivateEye · 12-13-2003, 06:01 AM

I have been EATEN!

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05-16-2001, 11:18 AM	#1
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	TGP owners bitch back, submitters take note..... Wednesday, May 16th/2001 -- Dear diahrea -- I'm updating my TGP, having a nice cup of coffeee (mmmm, coffeeee). Just uploaded all of yesterday's approved submissions, over 45 in all. Then, some may not know this, but I make it a habit of going to my main page on the net and clicking each new submission, just to see if it has been changed in any way or if the page is still loading. So, did I say over 45 new galleries? Sorry, I find 2 that have been redirected to a white page with a huge "enter" link (to a sponsor no less), and 2 more that are not loading (one of which is on that new freehost 'clubtgp.com') -- Interesting... I'm down to 44 new additions. Now for getting my reviews of all the submissions I recieved overnight and this morning, 80 in all... First 2 are banner-farm index pages, but I wasn't quite paying attention on my fist click, so the page opened and downloaded some xxxporno thing to my bookmarks. Dialer perhaps? I delete the thing, blacklist both submissions (they are both from the same person) and move on. Submission 3's descrip says "mega sponsor site", and is an index page as well. Blackfuckinglist for sure. Gone. Submission 4's descrip says "teen series of young babe fucked by your friend"....okay, I'm curious. It's a "terra es" gallery, the submitters name is Igor -- I'm a little dubious, but oh well. I click, and get a fairly nice-looking gallery full of well done thumbs. The ads are a little excessive, but what the hell, as long as the full-size pics are appealing, I'll list it. I click the first thumb, and am wisked away to popup fucking hell. I have to use my witts and "ctrl-w" repeatedly to close all the chained pops coming up. I manage to overcome them finally,.....the blacklist button gets clicked so hard I hurt my knuckles. Gallery 5 looks promising. I click, and wait. and I wait..... .......and I fucking wait....... Then I close the window, and try it again...... and I grow old waiting...... I even click on the one thumb that does load, and you guessed it......I wait, and I wait....... and I close, and I delete. Shit slow. Gallery 6! Ahhhh, finally a regular submitter of mine, and sure enough, it loads up fast, the gallery is clean and clear of bullshit, and the thumbs all lead to full sized decent quality pics. Not hi-res, just decent, which is what I like. don't give the surfer too much good stuff, just enough to get them interested. But, 1 our of 6? People, when will some submitters fucking learn? Cheating get's you fuck - ALL. Period. <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">60% of all signups, 40% of all rebills</font></a> + High Quality free content, mthly cash bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font>

05-16-2001, 12:52 PM	#3
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I'm actually really enjoying running a tgp, it's just that sometimes you need to let others know what goes on behind the scenes, you know? So far today, out of 3 or 4 galleries that I've reviewed (or tried to review) from club tgp, 2 have simply not loaded at all, and the other ones downloaded some sort of bookmarked pay program to my system. So far, their record isn't all that impressive. <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">60% of all signups, 40% of all rebills</font></a> + High Quality free content, mthly cash bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font>

05-16-2001, 05:42 PM	#11
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I'm sure I saved myself a lot of time with what I did last week. Ya's wanna know what I dun did? heeeeeokay.... I deleted every gallery url in my blacklist. Why? Well, before I deleted each one, I saved that part of the url that would denote that person's actual account on the server thus, eliminating them from submitting ANY galleries from that account. TGPM is so.......loveable for that alone. Now my blacklist is nice and streamlined, so I do get far less bullshit coming in, just once in a while (like today) (see 1st post in this thread) I get a glut of idiots who think they are smarter than me, or.....they think I'm a dummy or something. Or, they just don't think that the rules apply to them. Whatever. Thankfully, I do have a bunch of regular submitters that never miss, always submit good and very interesting galleries, and I can almost always take only a brief inspection before approve them. To you guys, keep em coming, I love you I think that part of the problem is the submitters using auto-submission software. As in the case of one guy that I totally reamed out via email for breaking my rules, I think that many people just add a tgp to their auto-submit script, but they fail to read the rules. Note to submitters: "ALWAYS READ THE FUCKING RULES" My rules may seem like the rantings of a lunatic, but really, the main things I hate are popups, auto-downloading of anything to my system, pages with no thumbs just ads, and audio bullshit ads for sure. I ensure my surfers on my index page that they are in for some relaxed, QUIET surfing and that all of the links on the site have been checked for "cleanliness", and that's damn well the way it is on my site. Anyone else need a turn here? <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">60% of all signups, 40% of all rebills</font></a> + High Quality free content, mthly cash bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font>

05-16-2001, 10:20 PM	#14
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	When I talk about image quality from the submitted gallery perspective, I'm not so much talking about the size (height vs width) of the pics as I am about the "clarity" of each full size pic. Blurry and grainy pics really tend to suck. The really ultra-clear high resolution pics are nice to look at, but they make me wonder why you are giving that level of quality away. I really prefer the "middle of the road" pics that are nice to look at, are fairly clear and of good quality, but that's it. They shouldn't give the surfer too damn much for free. Your pics should literally scream "hey, these pics are optimized for the free area of the web......for the good stuff, click here (and fucking PAY)" <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">60% of all signups, 40% of all rebills</font></a> + High Quality free content, mthly cash bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font>

05-17-2001, 04:06 PM	#23
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Yet, I too am myself a gallery submitter. I submit by hand only, no auto-shitter for me. And, I do not find that it is all that difficult to get listed on most of the good tgp's. (except for elephant list and al4a) The way to do it is to follow the fucking rules. How hard is it? As for the submitters here, I'll tell you all this much; I will list your galleries if they are as you say they are, no problemo. My tgp is a "given" listing if you just keep your gallery nice and clean and good-looking with no crap. Your ads can be big, small or numerous, as long as the pics are there in the proper amount and order, and only legal content is approved. I get guys that submit to me pics of celebs and playboy centerfolds. Sorry, not on my watch. oye Mick Bake! -- Ya, mate, I haven't been submitting galleries lately, I simply haven't had time. I've been working on too many other projects here to name, business is booming along here. I do have some new content in the hopper, and about 5 or 6 new models lined up for shoots, so I'll be starting up my submissions again soon. I'm also rethinking my ad strategies, as I really haven't had any great success with raising my income from gallery submitting lately. <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">60% of all signups, 40% of all rebills</font></a> + High Quality free content, mthly cash bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font>

05-16-2001, 11:26 AM	#2
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	That's why I change my TGP to a regular site! What a pain in the ass! (and not the good type of pain either) clubtgp.com what's the deal with these guys? I hear they are supposed to be good, but I couldnt get upload anything to them this morning either. Anybody hear much about them?

05-16-2001, 02:07 PM	#4
ez12 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 388 753 309 Posts: 2,438	a lot of tgp sites that are being submitted are on free servers and not all the server are as good so you cannot always blame the tgp poster, by the way what's your url , maybe we could make a deal I'll give you nice good loading gelleries with your button on it if you like ? ------------------ Th.HRM http://www.deluxegirls.com

05-16-2001, 02:34 PM	#5
Jamdin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,560	I think clubtgp.com has been overwhemlmed. My site that I just started on Monday at http://www.clubtgp.com/hosting/moongem/index.html is already coming up 404 & their homepage is gone. Ah, well...another one bites the dust. ------------------ Moongem Erotica Moongem Fiction

05-16-2001, 03:05 PM	#6
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	As for reviewing galleries, make the submitters partners. When you have guys like web-nudes, crazybabe, sleazydream etc submitting daily, you don't even need to review their galleries. At least - that's what I did. When I opened my first tgp I was running on a free host with the rule "no free hosts"... hahaha,,, kinda odd eh? Well, since I enforced that, I went from 700 to 6000 visitors in a WEEK. I only posted the best, but I made like $35 per week from it. Not even worth the effort. And I kind of hit the roof at 6k.

05-16-2001, 03:54 PM	#7
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,376	The Joys of reviewing I must admit to being extremly tuff when doing it and some people ask why?? all we need is a simple cleanish gallery ,how fucking hard can it be ??? My blacklist grows longer every day I did a mass mail out to alot of my submiters and told if I didnt get a reply I wouldent post them 3 replyed ,so much for using your real email, well at least it cut my backlog of submits ------------------ Post your movie galleries or quaility pages here The harder I work the luckyer I get. You must have a firm grip on Irony before life becomes fun

05-16-2001, 05:06 PM	#8
Clovis Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 412	Its nice to hear other TGP webmasters bitching - just like music to my ears. Submitters please remember that its not any harder to submit a good gallery than a bad one. The only difference is that the good gallery will get you posted and the bad gallery will get you banned. Listed galleries equal cash in your pocket. Banned galleries equal cash in someone else's pocket and your wasted time. ------------------ www.jadecandle.com

05-16-2001, 05:42 PM	#10
Lush Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Midvale, Utah, USA Posts: 230	Use www.postforcash.com, then you'll only have to review 44 a day Clean, quality galleries that update daily. And you get paid at the same time.

05-16-2001, 07:22 PM	#12
Badgurl Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 161	I fell out of my chair I was laughing so hard, reading that post..still got tears rolling down my face...my husband thinks I went looney..heh-heh..I run a tgp..course I'm looney... wacka - wacka - wacka.. No really..that was excellent...and it describes my day so well sometimes. Only I get over 700 submissions a day ... I gotta save that one, read it once in awhile when I'm at the end of my rope.

05-16-2001, 08:06 PM	#13
Phiber Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 137	One question to all you TGP owners... Whats a decent quality pic? About 450*300px image? Whats your opinion? Would be good to know...

05-16-2001, 10:51 PM	#15
tom Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: from the mountains Posts: 102	i would really appreciate it to get more feedback from tgp owners - if they like galleries they can send a short note and a partner id - a few handle it like that but most of the stuff i receive from tgps is spam! wonder why you guys need my e-mail adress ?

05-16-2001, 11:54 PM	#16
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	I know this post will insure our fate to never get posted by CD, but here is a quote I loved: "ALWAYS READ THE F*CKING RULES" I took liberties with the vowel. You fuss about the rules but are breaking a Federal Statute of "NO NUDITY ON THE WARNING PAGE". Thats not some simple Tgp owner rule, thats a LAW... Crime..., punishable offense..., get us all in trouble type thing. Ahh I feel much better now. Almost as good as taking off a bra two sizes too small after a long boring date. And Men think we don't do anything special for 'em. BTW, we never pull the BS with our gals. Dunno why some do really. Are they actually so dumb as to think they will make more money? It reminds me of cj's. Lets jerk someone around abit and sure they will buy from me lots of times. Just heard from 4 different surfers Weds night that they are buying from one of our sites after experiencing a real nasty cj.

05-17-2001, 02:44 AM	#18
TheWatcher Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 563	Get this My TGP has ended up on every fucking straight site submitters list.. I run a GAY FUCKING TGP c'mon now. Out of the 20 to 30 submits i get a day 5 to 9 of them are actual gay sites. im like "Blacklist", "Blacklist", and "Blacklist". WTF geez. anywho, anyone want to traffic trade send me an e-mail [email protected] ------------------ Peace will come, just kill them all...

05-17-2001, 02:48 AM	#19
Cali Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 72	Well, being a submitter for more than a year, I'm doing whatever I can to get partner status with the TGP's. It saves both me and the TGP owner some hassle every day. But the funny thing is, that not 10% of the TGP webmasters even bother to respond to emails asking for partner passes. I don't believe you get so much mail everyday that you can't spare the time to read it. Also, I've written to some TGP's asking if it would be better for them, that I don't submit my galleries (this would also save hassle for both of us), because they don't list me anyway. Result? No one replied... And for the record, I've never redirected, 404'ed or made any bullshit with my galleries. Hell, my first galleries are still up today.

05-17-2001, 04:58 AM	#20
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,376	I give passes and Traffic A pass is a trust thing If a webmaster sends me good quaility galleries all the Time I offer them one.I agree it much better for both of us,I do get 400 Emails a day but I do read the stuff people send me. Like I said in my earlyer Post I sent 200 reply emails to submiters and got 3 replys If people cant give me there real Emails why should I trust them sometimes I mite send a reply Like I think your server down or you made a little mistake can you fix it and let me know. But If I see another Blury jion for free gallery I will Scream. CD Smith I gave you a pass and I love your galleries but you havent sent me any for weeks??? Bake ------------------ Post your movie galleries or quaility pages here The harder I work the luckyer I get. You must have a firm grip on Irony before life becomes fun

05-17-2001, 12:12 PM	#21
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	Just wait until your TGP has been around for a year or two. The spam is ridiculous. I get 30-70 private submnissions/day. Then, I add in other trusted galleries. After that, my reviewers and I go thru the submits. No matter which submit script I use, what rule changes I ask for - I still get several hundred spam autosubmits. I'm talkking about the dumb ones:recips to other sites(not mine), wrong catagory, 404 errors, broken images, and any other mistake you can imagine. And you can tell they are just spam, because the number remains failry constant, even though we do not link them. They just keep sending the same shit, wasting our time, making it that much more difficult to find good gallery submissions from webmasters who have their shit together.

05-17-2001, 11:46 PM	#25
Hot Tropical Babes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 3,014	Yeah! What he said!! hehe ------------------ Hot Tropical Babes

05-18-2001, 12:11 AM	#26
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	I think you all have every right to bitch. I dont send out bad galleries (though once I accidentally redirectly all my gallery pages to my home page for 1/2 day when I was fucking around with .htacccess), but I know plenty of people submit shit/cheater galleries and it makes it more difficult for me to get good listings so fuck them! ------------------ My Webmaster's Page Feel free to take a quick peek here ;)

05-18-2001, 12:54 PM	#27
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	WOW, only had to remove one gallery from my main page today for changing their shit around to cheat. Kewl. However, while reviewing 105 other new submissions, I actually had to blacklist a guy that always gives me recip galleries. I hate to do that, but when you get 3 fucking dialers downoaded, plus an exit pop and piss-poor quality pics all from the same submission, it's time for the kill switch. <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">60% of all signups, 40% of all rebills</font></a> + High Quality free content, mthly cash bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font>

05-18-2001, 08:48 PM	#28
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	Why not create a "preferred submitters" page? ------------------ My Webmaster's Page Feel free to take a quick peek here ;)

05-18-2001, 09:22 PM	#29
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Don't think I haven't thought about it. I don't think I'm quite ready for that just yet though. I'll wait until my traffic grows up some, and then I'll impliment such a page. Honestly, I hope no one thinks I started this thread so that I could bitch and whine or anything, that's not what this conversation is about. As others may have said, this is mainly to get an ongoing discussion going between tgp owners and gallery submitters. I thought it would be nice for some of us to have a place to go to and talk about our experiences with this area of adult webmastering, and talk about what may be wrong with the process too. And ya, maybe vent a little plasma from your warp core now and then (closet Trekie here) There's a lot to be said for the old expression "misery loves company", but more than that is that it's nice to be able to commiserate with others that may be going through the same things as you (or me). <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">60% of all signups, 40% of all rebills</font></a> + High Quality free content, mthly cash bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font>

05-19-2001, 02:02 AM	#30
unijester Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orlando, FL USA Posts: 51	What I think is funny is those people who I've had blacklisted for months now and they still submit every day... guess they don't use referrer stats. Also what pisses me off if people who submit like 10 galleries a day will all very similar layouts but different names and emails and expect me to think they are all from different webmasters. I run a clean tgp and hand check all my galleries, if anyone would like to trade traffic drop me a line at [email protected] Bill Top Thumbnails http://www.topthumbnails.com [This message has been edited by unijester (edited 05-19-2001).]

05-19-2001, 01:57 PM	#31
TheEnforcer Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,855	First 2 are banner-farm index pages, but I wasn't quite paying attention on my fist click, so the page opened and downloaded some xxxporno thing to my bookmarks. Dialer perhaps? I delete the thing, blacklist both submissions (they are both from the same person) and move on. ---------------------- Fuck me.. been hearing more and more about this kind of favorites stuff.. any way to prevent it from happening?? Is it just an IE weakness or does it happen in Netscape too... sucks when you get somebody putting whatever they want on your computer.

05-20-2001, 10:54 PM	#32
scarabst Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 23	Give us a try at http://freepages.infoextra.com ------------------ [email protected] Have a Great Day!

12-13-2003, 06:01 AM	#33
PrivateEye Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dirty South Posts: 1,784	I have been EATEN! http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ __________________ Arkansas Escort Ads