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Kenny B! · 08-05-2004, 08:35 AM

Why can?t people come up with an original design or at least be a little less obvious when they completely rip off someone else?s wok? When we started out 5 years ago had a few copycat sites and it really irked me. I took it as somewhat of a compliment but mainly as a slap in the face. Check for yourself do these look the same to you?

In case this wasn?t a really poor attempt to blatantly rip off Naughty Allie?s site and Kayla hired the same 5th grader to come up with such a complex design, I?ll apologize in advance for jumping to conclusions!

beergood · 08-05-2004, 08:38 AM

Looks like cut n paste to me. But who really cares with such a basic design for an entry page.

Adam-EB · 08-05-2004, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beergood
Looks like cut n paste to me. But who really cares with such a basic design for an entry page.

Not just the entry page...
http://www.kaylacam.com/tour1.htm

http://www.naughtyallie.com/guestarea/videos.htm

Browse the two sites...

LadyMischief · 08-05-2004, 08:46 AM

Err..wow.

WiredGuy · 08-05-2004, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenny B!
Why can?t people come up with an original design or at least be a little less obvious when they completely rip off someone else?s wok? When we started out 5 years ago had a few copycat sites and it really irked me. I took it as somewhat of a compliment but mainly as a slap in the face. Check for yourself do these look the same to you?

In case this wasn?t a really poor attempt to blatantly rip off Naughty Allie?s site and Kayla hired the same 5th grader to come up with such a complex design, I?ll apologize in advance for jumping to conclusions!

To be honest, both these designs are very simple (just a table with 2 colums), so even if it was copied and pasted, I wouldn't really mind.

WG

Kenny B! · 08-05-2004, 08:51 AM

Like Adam said it's not just that page it's in the tour as well.

Digipimp · 08-05-2004, 08:52 AM

If I could remember offhand I saw a site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did.

LadyMischief · 08-05-2004, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
To be honest, both these designs are very simple (just a table with 2 colums), so even if it was copied and pasted, I wouldn't really mind.

WG

So when are you coming by to visit in YOUR M3?

Sammy4u · 08-05-2004, 08:53 AM

They are very similar through out the tours, I would say too much to just be a coincidence.

Platinum Doug · 08-05-2004, 08:56 AM

Both are hot . . . sorry, what was your question??? ;)

Sup Kenny!

Kenny B! · 08-05-2004, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sammy4u
They are very similar through out the tours, I would say too much to just be a coincidence.

Sammy you should copy it too, seems to do well for them:-)

Vitasoy · 08-05-2004, 08:59 AM

They got the same theme going.

Mutt · 08-05-2004, 09:00 AM

what a ridiculous thread - we're talking basic design layouts here that are literally on 10,000 sites, more than 10,000 - ....... there are only so many ways to use HTML tables to do a layout using no images as borders or backgrounds.

in an industry where 80% of people steal content and tons steal wholesale designs including graphics you pick this as your cause celebre?

Sammy4u · 08-05-2004, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenny B!
Sammy you should copy it too, seems to do well for them:-)

ha ha I think I will pass on that. My own tour is working very well for me.

Kenny B! · 08-05-2004, 09:03 AM

10,000+ sites that look like that, post some url's for me, I just found Kayla's! And if you look at the tours they are similar too, it's not just the index page.

Digipimp · 08-05-2004, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
what a ridiculous thread - we're talking basic design layouts here that are literally on 10,000 sites, more than 10,000 - ....... there are only so many ways to use HTML tables to do a layout using no images as borders or backgrounds.

in an industry where 80% of people steal content and tons steal wholesale designs including graphics you pick this as your cause celebre?

i remember seeing jake freak out and call someone out as a theif and go on and on and on about it for someone using a table like his before. he fucking blew up and nearly lost his mind, it was some funny shit.

Digipimp · 08-05-2004, 09:11 AM

ah i remember he was upset about someone having similar looking gallery, the person probably even used the same or similar template as his.

emmanuelle · 08-05-2004, 09:12 AM

Yep- here it is
http://chat.amateurmasters.com/chat....&threadid=3607

WiredGuy · 08-05-2004, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
So when are you coming by to visit in YOUR M3?

LOL, you're gonna keep doing this in every thread I post in aren't you

WG

Digipimp · 08-05-2004, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
Yep- here it is
http://chat.amateurmasters.com/chat....&threadid=3607

yep that was some funny shit, i was laughing that he wouldn't post it here on GFY even though I saw it on more than one other board.

cayne · 08-05-2004, 09:18 AM

yeah, looks very similiar...

Marcus Aurelius · 08-05-2004, 09:21 AM

ever hear the phrase "there is nothing new under the sun"

It applies to the web too. if it can be done it has been done, if a layout or design can be done you can bet it is out there. get over yourself thinking you are the only person who could create something like that and focus on making the site unique with what you put inside the framework.

I guess next your gonna tell us you invented solo girl sites too right?

Kenny B! · 08-05-2004, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mdcq
ever hear the phrase "there is nothing new under the sun"

It applies to the web too. if it can be done it has been done, if a layout or design can be done you can bet it is out there. get over yourself thinking you are the only person who could create something like that and focus on making the site unique with what you put inside the framework.

I guess next your gonna tell us you invented solo girl sites too right?

I've heard that phrase, and it's usually said by people who rip off others and have no origanal thoughts. Just so you know I didn't create it, it's not my site, and as for my own sites I pay designers to design something somewhat original, not take someone elses design and call it their own because they change the background color!

And I didn't invent the solo girl sites, I just make a great living from pimpimg them out

emmanuelle · 08-05-2004, 09:37 AM

sig placement

Jake · 08-05-2004, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
If I could remember offhand I saw a site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did.

I?ve been sitting back ignoring your baseless claims and smart assed remarks for the last several months. Why don?t we just let everyone know the motive behind you comments:

Digipimp sends Allie an e-mail last year stating that he was interested in promoting her site. He requests a UN/PW to the site for purpose of ?review?. Allie gives him a 30-day pass and at the end of the month guess who?s back asking for another pass. This goes on for 5 consecutive months.

He then sends Allie a request for ?special? content for a ?high traffic site? because he can?t seem to find what he needs from the 50+ downloadable zips in our affiliate area. At this point she asks for his affiliate ID and the URL for this ?high traffic site?. This is his reply:

?This is my affiliate ID I believe XXXXXX as far as a link to the site I'm not really allowed to say what the site is until after it's launched probably. I got the links from the guy who owns it and I don't know that he wants me telling people about the deal. I can just say that's it's huge, it's being redesigned for relaunch in early February and should be advertised on TV, magazines an the internet obviously. I hope you can understand, I hate not being able to tell but I really shouldn't say. If that's not alright with you I totally understand.? (For clarification, this is Feb 2004 that he?s talking about and his e-mail was sent in Jan 28, 2004)

So, against her better judgment she spends half the day getting him what he has requested. Bottom line, a month later she looks up the affiliate ID he gave her and he has sent exactly 3 clicks to the program and 0 sales. At that point it?s quite obvious he?s just spent the last 6 months jerking off to the site and who the hell knows what he did with the ?special content? that Allie spent half the day getting ready for him?

Anyway, at that point Allie stops renewing his UN/PW to the site and I pull his macpimps banner from the resource page at NaughtyBank. Ever since then, this clown never misses an opportunity to throw in some BS comment every chance he gets.

Digipimp - please do us all a favor and post the URL to this ?site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did? If you're going to come on a public forum and imply that we took the design from another site at least have the common courtesy to post some evidence of your claim or else STFU and let the grown-ups get back to work!

I?d be interested to know how many other single girl sites this guy has been stringing along just to get a ?free jerk-off pass? for six months? Very sad!

Loryn · 08-05-2004, 10:52 AM

Allie's a hottie with a killer body!!!

Digipimp · 08-05-2004, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jake
I?ve been sitting back ignoring your baseless claims and smart assed remarks for the last several months. Why don?t we just let everyone know the motive behind you comments:

Digipimp sends Allie an e-mail last year stating that he was interested in promoting her site. He requests a UN/PW to the site for purpose of ?review?. Allie gives him a 30-day pass and at the end of the month guess who?s back asking for another pass. This goes on for 5 consecutive months.

He then sends Allie a request for ?special? content for a ?high traffic site? because he can?t seem to find what he needs from the 50+ downloadable zips in our affiliate area. At this point she asks for his affiliate ID and the URL for this ?high traffic site?. This is his reply:

?This is my affiliate ID I believe XXXXXX as far as a link to the site I'm not really allowed to say what the site is until after it's launched probably. I got the links from the guy who owns it and I don't know that he wants me telling people about the deal. I can just say that's it's huge, it's being redesigned for relaunch in early February and should be advertised on TV, magazines an the internet obviously. I hope you can understand, I hate not being able to tell but I really shouldn't say. If that's not alright with you I totally understand.? (For clarification, this is Feb 2004 that he?s talking about and his e-mail was sent in Jan 28, 2004)

So, against her better judgment she spends half the day getting him what he has requested. Bottom line, a month later she looks up the affiliate ID he gave her and he has sent exactly 3 clicks to the program and 0 sales. At that point it?s quite obvious he?s just spent the last 6 months jerking off to the site and who the hell knows what he did with the ?special content? that Allie spent half the day getting ready for him?

Anyway, at that point Allie stops renewing his UN/PW to the site and I pull his macpimps banner from the resource page at NaughtyBank. Ever since then, this clown never misses an opportunity to throw in some BS comment every chance he gets.

Digipimp - please do us all a favor and post the URL to this ?site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did? If you're going to come on a public forum and imply that we took the design from another site at least have the common courtesy to post some evidence of your claim or else STFU and let the grown-ups get back to work!

I?d be interested to know how many other single girl sites this guy has been stringing along just to get a ?free jerk-off pass? for six months? Very sad!

you're so full of fucking shit it's running out of your mouth. the gallery is still up on the URL and was still going to get used but I'm waiting for the site to be ready which is out of my control. feel free to icq me for the exact url and then you'll know what was up. there was a site i can't remember the name of it or i would post it, i just happened to see it advertised on consumptionjunction, some housewife site or something. and if you still want to know about the site i'll point you to the guy who owns it so you can ask him if what i said is true or not. then i would like to see you try and call him out on it. take a look and see what i downloaded from your site as well and how many times i logged in, didn't happen, i think i logged in once or twice and attempted to view a video.

okny · 08-05-2004, 11:12 AM

You get what you pay for, simple as that.

Jake · 08-05-2004, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
you're so full of fucking shit it's running out of your mouth. the gallery is still up on the URL and was still going to get used but I'm waiting for the site to be ready which is out of my control. feel free to icq me for the exact url and then you'll know what was up. there was a site i can't remember the name of it or i would post it, i just happened to see it advertised on consumptionjunction, some housewife site or something. and if you still want to know about the site i'll point you to the guy who owns it so you can ask him if what i said is true or not. then i would like to see you try and call him out on it. take a look and see what i downloaded from your site as well and how many times i logged in, didn't happen, i think i logged in once or twice and attempted to view a video.

Hmmmm, so this big spectacular ?secret? site relaunch was postponed from Februrary 2004 until..?let?s see I think it?s August now. Go ahead and find this mystery gallery, load it up to your server and post the URL here so you can say, "see I told you this is the link". I'm assuming that will be your next post within the next 20 minutes or so, right?

Funny how you seem to remember that this other mystery site looked soooo much like Allie?s but you?re unable to come up with a link to it. I?ve wasted enough time on you today, I have a business to run and productive endeavors that need tending to. I think it?s time for you to run along and go play on your macpimp board now anyway.

Digipimp · 08-05-2004, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jake
Hmmmm, so this big spectacular ?secret? site relaunch was postponed from Februrary 2004 until..?let?s see I think it?s August now. Go ahead and find this mystery gallery, load it up to your server and post the URL here so you can say, "see I told you this is the link". I'm assuming that will be your next post within the next 20 minutes or so, right?

Funny how you seem to remember that this other mystery site looked soooo much like Allie?s but you?re unable to come up with a link to it. I?ve wasted enough time on you today, I have a business to run and productive endeavors that need tending to. I think it?s time for you to run along and go play on your macpimp board now anyway.

I've already emailed you and you have yet to contact me on ICQ so that I can give you the link. So if you want to continue making your accusations then have at it, I've got the proof right here and you're free to see it anytime you want to message me and it's not even on my server, it's on the domain of the site it was going to be hosted on when the site is launched.

TheJimmy · 08-05-2004, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jake
I?ve been sitting back ignoring your baseless claims and smart assed remarks for the last several months. Why don?t we just let everyone know the motive behind you comments:

Digipimp sends Allie an e-mail last year stating that he was interested in promoting her site. He requests a UN/PW to the site for purpose of ?review?. Allie gives him a 30-day pass and at the end of the month guess who?s back asking for another pass. This goes on for 5 consecutive months.

He then sends Allie a request for ?special? content for a ?high traffic site? because he can?t seem to find what he needs from the 50+ downloadable zips in our affiliate area. At this point she asks for his affiliate ID and the URL for this ?high traffic site?. This is his reply:

?This is my affiliate ID I believe XXXXXX as far as a link to the site I'm not really allowed to say what the site is until after it's launched probably. I got the links from the guy who owns it and I don't know that he wants me telling people about the deal. I can just say that's it's huge, it's being redesigned for relaunch in early February and should be advertised on TV, magazines an the internet obviously. I hope you can understand, I hate not being able to tell but I really shouldn't say. If that's not alright with you I totally understand.? (For clarification, this is Feb 2004 that he?s talking about and his e-mail was sent in Jan 28, 2004)

So, against her better judgment she spends half the day getting him what he has requested. Bottom line, a month later she looks up the affiliate ID he gave her and he has sent exactly 3 clicks to the program and 0 sales. At that point it?s quite obvious he?s just spent the last 6 months jerking off to the site and who the hell knows what he did with the ?special content? that Allie spent half the day getting ready for him?

Anyway, at that point Allie stops renewing his UN/PW to the site and I pull his macpimps banner from the resource page at NaughtyBank. Ever since then, this clown never misses an opportunity to throw in some BS comment every chance he gets.

Digipimp - please do us all a favor and post the URL to this ?site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did? If you're going to come on a public forum and imply that we took the design from another site at least have the common courtesy to post some evidence of your claim or else STFU and let the grown-ups get back to work!

I?d be interested to know how many other single girl sites this guy has been stringing along just to get a ?free jerk-off pass? for six months? Very sad!

WOW is all I gotta say, there are some really strange and sad people in the world...

sixxxth_sense · 08-05-2004, 11:48 AM

Don't both of these sites bellong to the same sponsor? Maybe the hired a designer to design allie's site and then when they got the other bitch they just copy paste the orignal design, the designer got paid for the firstone but was told to lick balls after complainging about the 2ndone!

eroswebmaster · 08-05-2004, 11:49 AM

Various ownage here...very strange thread...kinda like an intense tennis game.

TheJimmy · 08-05-2004, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
Allie's a hottie with a killer body!!!

uhm, yapppp, pretty much...

loved those GFY carpenter shots...

smokin' in or out of the clothing...

Jake · 08-05-2004, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenny B!
Why can?t people come up with an original design or at least be a little less obvious when they completely rip off someone else?s wok? When we started out 5 years ago had a few copycat sites and it really irked me.....

When Allie started her website our biggest concern with theft was that some zit faced 18y/o kid in Estonia would steal her content and/or the entire site and call it their own.

Call it naiveté if you like, but it has come as a huge surprise that the biggest threat of theft has come from other amateur girl sites. We?ve seen this time and time again! What seems even more surprising to me is that in most cases, such as this one, we?ve actually met the girl face-to-face at a webmaster event.

For anyone who say?s, ?what?s the big deal? or ?it?s just basic html? you?re sadly missing the point. If a designer were to spend the day combining, optimizing, manipulating, and slicing a series of images into a single graphic it would be considered theft if someone came along and took the graphic for use on their own site. Say they changed the border color of the graphic, it?s still theft plain and simple!

It?s no different when Allie spends the entire day adjusting cell spacing, cell padding, border sizes, cell alignment, font size, etc. in order to get the layout just as she wants it. Please don?t bother citing copyright laws or the DMCA because it would be fruitless to engage in a legal discussion on this topic here.

Whether or not it would be considered theft from a legal perspective is completely irrelevant anyway. The point here is that in both scenarios someone stole a full days work from someone else because they were too fucking lazy to do it themselves!

Kayla, you may want to at least change the tr bordercolor="6666cc" tag to something that fits your purple color scheme a little better. Allie used 6666cc because she thought that dark blue looked good against the light blue background of her table. In your case, I don?t think that the dark blue color looks so good against your purple background. That?s just my opinion though!

Digipimp · 08-05-2004, 02:57 PM

Unfortunately Jake that's the way the biz world works and probably always will. You're a smart guy so you already know that and yeah being in that position sometimes sucks. Someone always has to be the originator and then someone always takes what you have and uses it to make something better or sometimes hell they just keep it the same I guess. That's how it always works, yeah it sucks to be the person who doesn't get credit for being the original sometime or what sucks even more is to be the person with the original idea and never make any money on it only to have someone copy it and get rich with a little tweak or nothing at all.

And I still haven't received an ICQ or email from you if you want to see the work you said I was lying about.

TurboAngel · 08-05-2004, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
i remember seeing jake freak out and call someone out as a theif and go on and on and on about it for someone using a table like his before. he fucking blew up and nearly lost his mind, it was some funny shit.

I think you're right!

MickeyG · 08-05-2004, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jake
Kayla, you may want to at least change the tr bordercolor="6666cc" tag to something that fits your purple color scheme a little better. Allie used 6666cc because she thought that dark blue looked good against the light blue background of her table. In your case, I don?t think that the dark blue color looks so good against your purple background. That?s just my opinion though!

busted!

Doctor Dre · 08-05-2004, 03:10 PM

It's a really basic design ...

You should try firefox ... tabbed browsing is better

Sammy4u · 08-05-2004, 03:11 PM

I just checked Kaylas site again and it is now changed.

Sammy4u · 08-05-2004, 03:13 PM

Opps spoke too soon. It is only partially changed!

SureFire · 08-05-2004, 03:18 PM

interesting.

http://www.pirated-sites.com/index.asp

NaughtyAllie · 08-05-2004, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
Allie's a hottie with a killer body!!!

Thanks! That means a lot coming from a girl as sexy as you!
Will I be seeing you next week in Florida??

grumpy · 08-05-2004, 05:33 PM

You call that a design???? In every html handbook this is on the first page. Now get back and work on your issues.

Loryn · 08-05-2004, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NaughtyAllie
Thanks! That means a lot coming from a girl as sexy as you!
Will I be seeing you next week in Florida??

Nope!!

But I will be at the next show in November and then Vegas!!!

WiredGuy · 08-05-2004, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
Unfortunately Jake that's the way the biz world works and probably always will. You're a smart guy so you already know that and yeah being in that position sometimes sucks. Someone always has to be the originator and then someone always takes what you have and uses it to make something better or sometimes hell they just keep it the same I guess. That's how it always works, yeah it sucks to be the person who doesn't get credit for being the original sometime or what sucks even more is to be the person with the original idea and never make any money on it only to have someone copy it and get rich with a little tweak or nothing at all.

And I still haven't received an ICQ or email from you if you want to see the work you said I was lying about.

You'd be surprised to see how well copyright law works in favor of the originator. I've gotten a few copy/pasters termed for copying my SE work. I've also blacklisted a couple sponsors who allowed their webmasters to get away with copyright theft.

WG

tony286 · 08-05-2004, 06:06 PM

Its pretty basic and I doubt they are the only two sites that have that design. Unless you create your own fonts and custom blend colors to me to own a layout on the web is tough in my opinion.

psyko514 · 08-05-2004, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Its pretty basic and I doubt they are the only two sites that have that design. Unless you create your own fonts and custom blend colors to me to own a layout on the web is tough in my opinion.

quoted from jake:

"Kayla, you may want to at least change the tr bordercolor="6666cc" tag to something that fits your purple color scheme a little better. Allie used 6666cc because she thought that dark blue looked good against the light blue background of her table. In your case, I don?t think that the dark blue color looks so good against your purple background. That?s just my opinion though!"

and if this was simply a coincidence, why has kayla's site been changed?

SureFire · 08-05-2004, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Its pretty basic and I doubt they are the only two sites that have that design. Unless you create your own fonts and custom blend colors to me to own a layout on the web is tough in my opinion.

Both of sites are basic but very similar. The first site mentioned has been the same format as long as I can remember and the second one has been changed very often.

I didn't look at the code but it seems that some "borrowing" took place. It has happened to me a few times and according to my lawyer, it is legal if a certain percentage is changed.

Thank God for porn forums at least one gets to rant.

PrivateIvy · 08-05-2004, 07:06 PM

Kayla is such a sweetie pie, but I'll have to add that one of her last designs was identical to a friend of mines....I mean identical including design, fonts, colors, mega tags and much of the code, when I asked her about it she changed it.

Ivy

08-05-2004, 08:35 AM	#1
Kenny B! Confirmed Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,717	I wanna be like Allie too! Why can?t people come up with an original design or at least be a little less obvious when they completely rip off someone else?s wok? When we started out 5 years ago had a few copycat sites and it really irked me. I took it as somewhat of a compliment but mainly as a slap in the face. Check for yourself do these look the same to you? In case this wasn?t a really poor attempt to blatantly rip off Naughty Allie?s site and Kayla hired the same 5th grader to come up with such a complex design, I?ll apologize in advance for jumping to conclusions! __________________ Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com Skype: kennyb514 Do business with us: Your Paysite Partner Kenny's Pennies Sticky Dollars Radical Cash Indie Bucks Stand Ahead Read My Ambush Interview Here

08-05-2004, 08:46 AM	#4
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	Err..wow. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

08-05-2004, 08:51 AM	#6
Kenny B! Confirmed Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,717	Like Adam said it's not just that page it's in the tour as well. __________________ Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com Skype: kennyb514 Do business with us: Your Paysite Partner Kenny's Pennies Sticky Dollars Radical Cash Indie Bucks Stand Ahead Read My Ambush Interview Here

08-05-2004, 08:52 AM	#7
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	If I could remember offhand I saw a site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

08-05-2004, 08:53 AM	#9
Sammy4u Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SAMMYSMACK.com Posts: 1,844	They are very similar through out the tours, I would say too much to just be a coincidence. __________________ Sammy4u.com Winner - Best Individual Performer Site! POTD blog plug in \| GeoIP & Custom Text Fansigns Hosted Blog, POTD, TGP, MGP, and Freesites

08-05-2004, 08:38 AM	#2
beergood Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 2,918	Looks like cut n paste to me. But who really cares with such a basic design for an entry page.

08-05-2004, 08:56 AM	#10
Platinum Doug Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 413	Both are hot . . . sorry, what was your question??? ;) Sup Kenny! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

08-05-2004, 08:59 AM	#12
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	They got the same theme going. __________________ [email protected]

08-05-2004, 09:00 AM	#13
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	what a ridiculous thread - we're talking basic design layouts here that are literally on 10,000 sites, more than 10,000 - ....... there are only so many ways to use HTML tables to do a layout using no images as borders or backgrounds. in an industry where 80% of people steal content and tons steal wholesale designs including graphics you pick this as your cause celebre?

08-05-2004, 09:03 AM	#15
Kenny B! Confirmed Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,717	10,000+ sites that look like that, post some url's for me, I just found Kayla's! And if you look at the tours they are similar too, it's not just the index page. __________________ Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com Skype: kennyb514 Do business with us: Your Paysite Partner Kenny's Pennies Sticky Dollars Radical Cash Indie Bucks Stand Ahead Read My Ambush Interview Here

08-05-2004, 09:11 AM	#17
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	ah i remember he was upset about someone having similar looking gallery, the person probably even used the same or similar template as his. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

08-05-2004, 09:12 AM	#18
emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	Yep- here it is http://chat.amateurmasters.com/chat....&threadid=3607

08-05-2004, 09:18 AM	#21
cayne My time is coming... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Europe --- eMail: service(at)badasscompany.com --- ICQ: 60288510 Posts: 7,476	yeah, looks very similiar... __________________ If lesbian anal is wrong, I don't want to be right.

08-05-2004, 09:21 AM	#22
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	ever hear the phrase "there is nothing new under the sun" It applies to the web too. if it can be done it has been done, if a layout or design can be done you can bet it is out there. get over yourself thinking you are the only person who could create something like that and focus on making the site unique with what you put inside the framework. I guess next your gonna tell us you invented solo girl sites too right?

08-05-2004, 09:37 AM	#24
emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	sig placement

08-05-2004, 10:52 AM	#26
Loryn Super Connector Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 12,853	Allie's a hottie with a killer body!!! __________________ ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~ RIP TD

08-05-2004, 11:12 AM	#28
okny Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Vault Posts: 5,761	You get what you pay for, simple as that. __________________ Aim: okny Icq: 306232 Skype: OlegKrasBT

08-05-2004, 11:48 AM	#32
sixxxth_sense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: T.O. Posts: 2,430	Don't both of these sites bellong to the same sponsor? Maybe the hired a designer to design allie's site and then when they got the other bitch they just copy paste the orignal design, the designer got paid for the firstone but was told to lick balls after complainging about the 2ndone!

08-05-2004, 11:49 AM	#33
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	Various ownage here...very strange thread...kinda like an intense tennis game. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

08-05-2004, 02:57 PM	#36
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	Unfortunately Jake that's the way the biz world works and probably always will. You're a smart guy so you already know that and yeah being in that position sometimes sucks. Someone always has to be the originator and then someone always takes what you have and uses it to make something better or sometimes hell they just keep it the same I guess. That's how it always works, yeah it sucks to be the person who doesn't get credit for being the original sometime or what sucks even more is to be the person with the original idea and never make any money on it only to have someone copy it and get rich with a little tweak or nothing at all. And I still haven't received an ICQ or email from you if you want to see the work you said I was lying about. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

08-05-2004, 03:11 PM	#40
Sammy4u Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SAMMYSMACK.com Posts: 1,844	I just checked Kaylas site again and it is now changed. __________________ Sammy4u.com Winner - Best Individual Performer Site! POTD blog plug in \| GeoIP & Custom Text Fansigns Hosted Blog, POTD, TGP, MGP, and Freesites

08-05-2004, 03:13 PM	#41
Sammy4u Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SAMMYSMACK.com Posts: 1,844	Opps spoke too soon. It is only partially changed! __________________ Sammy4u.com Winner - Best Individual Performer Site! POTD blog plug in \| GeoIP & Custom Text Fansigns Hosted Blog, POTD, TGP, MGP, and Freesites

08-05-2004, 03:18 PM	#42
SureFire Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: internet Posts: 4,398	interesting. http://www.pirated-sites.com/index.asp

08-05-2004, 05:33 PM	#44
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	You call that a design???? In every html handbook this is on the first page. Now get back and work on your issues. __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888

08-05-2004, 06:06 PM	#47
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Its pretty basic and I doubt they are the only two sites that have that design. Unless you create your own fonts and custom blend colors to me to own a layout on the web is tough in my opinion.

08-05-2004, 07:06 PM	#50
PrivateIvy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,257	Kayla is such a sweetie pie, but I'll have to add that one of her last designs was identical to a friend of mines....I mean identical including design, fonts, colors, mega tags and much of the code, when I asked her about it she changed it. Ivy Last edited by PrivateIvy; 08-05-2004 at 07:07 PM..