50 :thumbsup

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hmmmmmmmmmmmm

And if you hit the Join button at www.perfectiongirls.com you get send to a dialer.

Are you sending all foreign traffic to a dialer and are your affiliates are getting paid for that - well i guess no.

pfff whatever.

Roger, this is not about YOU or PornKings.

You have a job to do, you choose to take on a partner who has a lot of negative baggage. I am sure you knew this before you made a deal.

Knowing you as the tough businessman you are, I am sure you used this to your advantage and got a steal with perfections cash. I am sure you knew you would have to deal with this kind of heat.

There is no reason to insult others who you have no beef with. You made a investment in a crap property - you saw potential there and maybe it will pay off - but you should not attack people who have been burned in the past by your new partner.

Everything comes down to risk reward. You took a risk when partnering with a huge scammer. Time will tell if the reward is worth it.

damn I was at the amusement park and missed this one...Might as well get my shit near the top of page 2

yeah right

Now this is an interesting thread


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LOL

Your new lesbo site looks good Lens..

Where the hell are you going with this line of reasoning and what does it have anything to do with Perfection Cash stealing money?

Thats fine with me.

What was your account and why did you stop sending to Pornkings? Please post your stats. I don't care if they sucked ass
Please post them if not I'm going to have to call bullshit and show your true colors

I tired of being politically correct. Your right I?m going to stoop to the same levels as the rest of you who only talk shit.
I?ve always been real and about business on this board I just realized its time to fight fire with fire.

Fuck with a bull and get the horns

I know way to much dirt on everyone believe that?????? If not I will find out

I love the threats.

i Pushed your coke whore site, i stopped sending traffic for my own reasons.

I love the threats though. I really do. What is between Jeff and me is just that, please go count your money Mr Bg Stuff and leave this to us.

What exactly are you calling bullshit on and what do YOU have to do with anything I said?

Fuck with the bull? Stop beating your chest, you sound silly.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh hehe, i can't believe he got through university.

apology excepted...what ever!:feels-hot

Jeff no longer runs or deals with the financials of Perfection cash.

I?m really not worried it already paid for itself come over anytime and I?ll show you how the Numbers tripled already. But aside from that. Jeff is a partner just on the Perfectioncash site but does not handle the financials at ALL.

And he has nothing to do with the sites in Pornkings!

You guys know that most of the webmasters don?t understand how to separate the two if you?re not in the know.

I?m just trying to make it clear to the learkers.


YOU WILL GET PAID By PERFECTION CASH
NOW under new management! BY Pornkings

So fucking annoying.

Do you guys really do so bad business that you have to spam (yes, SPAM) this board with your sig to earn some cents?

I'm not talking about regular posting with advertising in cig, I'm talking about posting bullshit-comments on the top of (highly read) threads.

C'mon guys, it's so low. SO LOW.

:2 cents:

Jeff, please icq me. Thanks

Lots of words ... like thoses bounced checks and promeses :)

Your rep CAN be rebuilt ... but words aiin't gonna cut it out

Beating my chest LMAO lets go back to all our posts in the past before this one and see who is always beating his chest.:1orglaugh

I don't belive you sent to us. you make it sound like you sent alot and you stopped cause you didn't convert or something.

what was the acount you used for Perfectioncash if you say you didn't get paid or you got shaved lets resolve it now.

how many sales did you have? we will double it.
If you can show me proof of any other revshare program that paid you more because they reacurred longer then 2 months I will match your best sponsor.
Jeff no longer runs the show Pornkings does.

So now what? You going to keep beating your chest?

I totally agree words don't mean shit:thumbsup

But its under new management now and it was rebuilt


Everyone will get paid NOW

the sites are doing amazing I bet you won't hear anymore complaints

Did you enlighten everyone already about the takeover + specific dealings of what previous ownership did and what you did to clear it up / rectify the situation? I really have no idea, but it'd help to know for potential affiliates. :)

Matt

This thread is a good read.. even for me.

Its clear that me and Fletch arnt going to be buddy. It's cool! No love lost. What is awesome though is that he is still getting rebills off our program and its been over a year since he sent traffic. I'm glad he is and very glad he let everyone else know. Wow, over a year and the perfection girls sites are still rebilling for ya.

Say a ton for our retention. Thanks Fletch!

As for MikeAI.... truly dont get it. I really dont, never met him, never talked to him other then a couple short icq messages a year or so back. Used to be an affilaite back in March of 2003. Converted great and still has some rebills coming in for over a year ago. If I knew what i did to you Mike.. I would happy say I am sorry, to your face and clear the air. I really would.

Rogers post above is correct. I am out of the finanical game when it comes to Perfection Cash. Why, because I sucked at it. I was overwhelmed, on a short budget, trying to make big things happen and it caught up with me. I didnt enter the indusrty in 1996 when it was a honey pot. We got in in 2002 when you had/have to bust your ass for every sign up. It was hard... but we did manage to build a name for ourselfs for awhile before things caved in. Thats no excuse for some of the fuck ups... I know this. Not here to make excuses because there arnt any. We did our best and it wasnt enough. Now, we faced the music, paid all our debts and put it back together. We came out and apologized for our actions and mistakes and we are moving on.

Not making one excuse for what happened. We fucked up and paid the price. It was 8 months ago that all this hit the fan. Should it be forgotten? Hell know.. I am reminded of it everyday, but when its all said and done, doing the right thing and making everyone whole is all I can do.

Moving forward... learning from my experiences and building from there. Never to old to learn.

See sig :)

Yes we have many times without going into detail.

I have also posted my 800# for those who had concerns etc.

Guess what not one call?

the sites are doing amazing and there are many webmasters pushing them and getting paid big bucks.

Plus we have much more coming soon:winkwink:

Yes, sorry, you are. You have been on my ignore for months and months.

They can pop me an email if they want the traffic removed.


[email protected]

damn they admitted they did something wrong with out really admitting anything.. :1orglaugh did a lawyer write that apology


well lets just hope all the models get paid and anyone else that was owed money.

I am looking into it. and will have an answer ASAP

Douche Bag. Throw some pussy and booze, and webmasters may be more forgiving. You should find another line of work, you will always be a joke in this industry. Now go fuck yourself.

Well said. This industry is mind boggling sometimes.

LMAO

the guys with traffic know the deal a few might belive the bullshit

1) This is not my site, trust me, if it was me running it you would of been fighting a lawsuit right now....

2) From what I heared, your 2 signups a month doesn't cut it.

amazing

I don't know jeff but Pornkings has always paid me with good $$ for my traffic. I don't want o be signed up under the other guy where are the links in the pornkings set up or what is the place I sign up?

Well, it was pretty clear what happened. The rebill situation, the checks that came back and the model that didnt get paid. Those were the issues we had. Since then, we have fixed the rebill situation ( did that on Jan 4th of this year actually ) Paid back double to the affiliates that came forward and showed their lost rebills (Still have one guy owed about $200.00.. just waiting on his wire info email) and we cleared the situations with the models. All debts are settled and were paid by me. All the checks that were returned were paid back in full including any fee's that may have been occured.

All future finaincal and accounting issues are handled by Pornkings and their accounting department. All models, affiliates (other the ccbill revshare joins), designers are paid by pornkings... they handle all our finanical affairs.

I am here to do what i do best... shoot content and work great traffic deals with great programs. In a very short period of time... I have tripled the daily sales rate and trilpled the traffic of Perfection Cash's highest days ever. Going great so far.

Thanks again and... See Sig :)

i have trouble trusting sponsors a first time. a second time? no fucking way.

And you would expect anything less from Steve Lightspeed? The guy who can not even go to shows any more because he could not keep his dick in his pants.

Good luck guys. :)

lol....too funny

Not trying to get in this or start shit by any means, because seriously it was a waste to even look at this thread, but seriously, when Jeff speaks, who the hell is "we"??? Because if it is "we" as Jeff and Pornkings, I am almost positive that Pornkings didn't write any bad checks or ripped people off. So I was just checking.

LMAO:1orglaugh That was funny...

But staying on the topic at hand. From an outsiders point of view, it appears this Jeff guy has been a scammer from the start, and once a scammer always a scammer. Now you have this Pornkings getting involved and basically ruining their reputation by being an Idiot and getting involved with a known scammer. I'm sure glsd I never dealt with either of these people, bad Karma all around:2 cents: :2 cents:

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Okay, I gotta say this..... is there some unspoken thing that I missed on why we don't ever mention the whole uproar about you having underage models on your sites a few years ago?

Jeff, you know full well there are threads on this very board where a boatload of webmasters were bashing you severely about the under 18 "non-nude" pay sites. You yourself started a thread back then to complain about the crackdown on them. To me that was a pretty big red flag back in the day, and I'm sitting here wondering why everyone seems to just be leaving that tidbit out completely, like it's taboo to mention or something.


Look, if I missed something about this and I'm wrong then I'll say I'm sorry right now, I can't read every single thread on every board to keep up with this shit.

But if I didn't, well...... if you're going to come clean and admit your mistakes and take things in a new honest direction, at least own up to all of it.


Roger --- You bought into this knowing full well there were some pretty heavy hard feelings and controversy over Jeff and his company, so I wish you wouldn't get too bent out of shape when a guy like Fletch voices what he knows to be very serious questions here. You HAD to expect that people who have been around here for a long time who have been paying the lest attention would remember some of the shit that went on with Jeff.

I'm all for keeping the conversation civil.

guess not

I like this line

"It wasn?t easy, but doing the right thing isn?t always a cake walk."

Doing things right is soooo easy.

No Arika... when I say "we" I an refering the the people that were involved in the past. Not the present situations. No, of course not. Just an fyi though... those checks you mentioned... there were 5 of them total and yes.. each and everyone of them were paid... inculding any fees they may have incured from there bank. As for ripping people off... everyone was paid in full and any issues were resolved. :)


Now, everyone... go send traffic to Arikas site! Hottest teen amateur out there.

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Is it too late for prime time positioning in this thread?

Wouldn't the right thing be then, Jeff, since your coming "clean" and everything, who the other people involved were? It makes sense to me. But remember the check that you sent me that couldn't be cashed, I do believe that it was signed by you. Oh yea, I still have that check. :1orglaugh
Also do you remember when you told me that a check was on it's way, and a week later I had still not received it? So you told me you would send me another check (bounced...go figure :) ) I never received that first check that you "sent". Maybe it is still lost in the mail or something...who know.

Just remember you signed the check Jeff...YOU.


I'm done now, should have never of gotten in this thread in the first place. I apologize for interrupting....carry on :)