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axelcat · 08-03-2004, 01:44 PM

They just lost to italy by 17 points

xclusive · 08-03-2004, 01:47 PM

Damn it what is wrong with those sissy ass bitches? They lose the gold i'm never watching the NBA again...

okny · 08-03-2004, 01:47 PM

That's it they are out?

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 01:49 PM

Its the fuckin coach he sucks

iFliPcEss · 08-03-2004, 01:49 PM

it seems that was next to impossible but hell yah it happened... that sucks

loverboy · 08-03-2004, 01:50 PM

true, gone are the days they bury their oppenents with a 50+ margins

they really have some issues... i think of the game, Iverson and James were not allowed to play for they failed to report on time. well, we can say they are playing it lightly for its only an exhibition game.

AdultNex · 08-03-2004, 01:51 PM

The U.S. just didn't send its best players.

Simple as that.

Fletch XXX · 08-03-2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by AdultNex
The U.S. just didn't send its best players.

Simple as that.

no shit, all the real players are making MILLIONS IN THE NBA

why waste your time to go play Italy?

No one in america even follows this shit.

i didnt even know we had a team playing italy

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 01:53 PM

come on they are all young players 1 or 2 years in the nba, omeka okafur has not played an nba game yet, james 2nd year man anthony 2nd year man might as well send college players

irishfury · 08-03-2004, 01:54 PM

yeah what a disgrace italy beat them with piston team basketball...

kmanrox · 08-03-2004, 01:55 PM

are they out now? what does this loss mean?

Basic_man · 08-03-2004, 01:55 PM

17 points? ouch !

pxxx · 08-03-2004, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
Its the fuckin coach he sucks

That same guy coached a team that is now the NBA Champs, and the NBA is the best basketball league in the world. You don't know shit about basketball.

loverboy · 08-03-2004, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
come on they are all young players 1 or 2 years in the nba, omeka okafur has not played an nba game yet, james 2nd year man anthony 2nd year man might as well send college players

playing alone in the NBA is a big intimadation factor to their opponents, they are considered in the top on the Basketball food chain.

their individual talent alone cannot win them the Gold and bring back the lost fame, they need to regroup and plan team basketball.

its just a matter of time before they blend in to the play. playing diffent ball clubs right now is a good exposure to them. still, i hope they don't get over confident.

ColBigBalls · 08-03-2004, 01:59 PM

I will never understand why Pro spots team players are able to play in the olympics.. a junior sporting event... the only sport i can think of that dosent allow this is figure skateing... how fucked up is that

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:02 PM

The game was just an exhibition, so they're not out of anything. I only watched a little of the game but Italy was shooting nothing, and I mean nothing, but threes and hit pretty much every single one of them. Then on defense, they were packing in the zone. With a team that hasn't played together much, and is short on perimeter shooters, the U.S. was kinda screwed considering how hot the Italians were. The U.S. team is far from it's best possible, but still is much more talented overall than any other team. The problem is that they spend almost no time playing together when compared to the time the other teams spend. American players also are short on fundamentals, team play, and perimeter shooting thanks to that asshat David Stern's abomination to the basketball world, the NBA. The talent disparity isn't enough to overcome that anymore. They still are slight favorites IMO to win the gold but it wouldn't be surprising at all if they don't. I think a game like this could be a good wake up call though, as I think the American players haven't come to grips with how much the rest of the world has caught up.

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by pxxx
That same guy coached a team that is now the NBA Champs, and the NBA is the best basketball league in the world. You don't know shit about basketball.

Why did they lose to Italy by 17 points then you dont know shit about basketball moron

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by loverboy
playing alone in the NBA is a big intimadation factor to their opponents, they are considered in the top on the Basketball food chain.

their individual talent alone cannot win them the Gold and bring back the lost fame, they need to regroup and plan team basketball.

its just a matter of time before they blend in to the play. playing diffent ball clubs right now is a good exposure to them. still, i hope they don't get over confident.

Your absolutely right

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
Why did they lose to Italy by 17 points then you dont know shit about basketball moron

Coaching the NBA champs does mean very little IMO since it's more about babysitting than coaching (case in point: Phil Jackson), but Larry Brown is one of the best coaches in the world without a doubt. I don't think they could have picked a better coach for the U.S. team.

And this is coming from a Duke fan (Brown is a UNC guy).

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:09 PM

Brown is good but not the best, And the players that are representing the usa are not that great

Mike AI · 08-03-2004, 02:13 PM

Coach Brown is one of the best coaches of all time. He LIVES for the game.

The problem is the US has a young team, that has only played together for 2 weeks.

Other countries have teams that have played together since they were in grade school.

Basketball, especially international Basketballl is a TEAM sport. The NBA game is one based around stars, and thus they have a hard time playing team ball.

However, Coach Brown is the master of TEAM ball - he convinced Detriot to play team ball and they destroyed the Lakers.

If he can do this with the young NBA guys, and they can gel the next few weeks they should do ok.

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
Brown is good but not the best, And the players that are representing the usa are not that great

I agree 100% on the players, but who would you have picked as coach over Brown?

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
Coach Brown is one of the best coaches of all time. He LIVES for the game.

The problem is the US has a young team, that has only played together for 2 weeks.

Other countries have teams that have played together since they were in grade school.

Basketball, especially international Basketballl is a TEAM sport. The NBA game is one based around stars, and thus they have a hard time playing team ball.

However, Coach Brown is the master of TEAM ball - he convinced Detriot to play team ball and they destroyed the Lakers.

If he can do this with the young NBA guys, and they can gel the next few weeks they should do ok.

100% on the money. Hopefully Brown can gel them together even given the short time they've had to prepare.

Just_Dave · 08-03-2004, 02:15 PM

i still haven't seen them play . The OG dream team was the best

e-god · 08-03-2004, 02:18 PM

You wont win olympic gold for the first time..

if the best USA players dont go to olympic games thats US problem and if the current players cant get gold no excuses are accepted.

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by Shooter
I agree 100% on the players, but who would you have picked as coach over Brown?

Theres a lot of them starting with phil jackson, sloan from utah, and popovich from san antonio

Mike AI · 08-03-2004, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
Theres a lot of them starting with phil jackson, sloan from utah, and popovich from san antonio

All 3 great coaches, but not better then Brown.

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:21 PM

They were 50-0 before todays game, come on give me a break this team is not good

hornycash · 08-03-2004, 02:22 PM

pussys!

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
All 3 great coaches, but not better then Brown.

Come on get real your talking about 9 championship rings from phil jackson to 1 from brown and not to mention poovich with 2 rings

loverboy · 08-03-2004, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Shooter
Coaching the NBA champs does mean very little IMO since it's more about babysitting than coaching (case in point: Phil Jackson), but Larry Brown is one of the best coaches in the world without a doubt. I don't think they could have picked a better coach for the U.S. team.

And this is coming from a Duke fan (Brown is a UNC guy).

Brown is no doubt has showed briliance and gives him a reason why he was herald to the thown to lead the US team, beating Lakers and Phil Jackson alone is a record setting feat in the history books.

However, take note that these players have their own individual talents that paved way for their multi-$$$ paychecks for their respective ball club.

It's a matter for a coach to discipline its players regardless of their fame and money. Remember that Brown gave up his career at Philadelphia for he can't win any championship even with Iverson in his lineup. Same case for Jackson for he is not in good terms with Kobe/Payton who doesn't know what team playing is all about.

the bottom line is, are these players coachable despite their individual skills and are ready to play a team game?

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
Theres a lot of them starting with phil jackson, sloan from utah, and popovich from san antonio

Popovich is on the U.S. staff so he's there, Sloan is good but I think Brown is better, Jackson is more of a babysitter than a coach so he wouldn't have been appropriate here IMO. Much of the strategy you see employed by Jackson comes from his longtime assistant Tex Winters.

MR2raymond · 08-03-2004, 02:24 PM

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by loverboy
Brown is no doubt has showed briliance and gives him a reason why he was herald to the thown to lead the US team, beating Lakers and Phil Jackson alone is a record setting feat in the history books.

However, take note that these players have their own individual talents that paved way for their multi-$$$ paychecks for their respective ball club.

It's a matter for a coach to discipline its players regardless of their fame and money. Remember that Brown gave up his career at Philadelphia for he can't win any championship even with Iverson in his lineup. Same case for Jackson for he is not in good terms with Kobe/Payton who doesn't know what team playing is all about.

the bottom line is, are these players coachable despite their individual skills and are ready to play a team game?

This us team is by far the worst one put together however thats no excuse for losing as we dominate in basketball

CraigA · 08-03-2004, 02:26 PM

The international game is a different animal than the NBA. It's much more perimeter oriented and hand checking is considered a foul. Also the rest of the world is catching up to the US in basketball, period. Look at how many Europeans are playing in the NBA now.
It's only an exhibition, yes, but without Shaq, Kobe and some other premier players who declined to play, this team will be hard pressed to medal IMO.

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by Shooter
Popovich is on the U.S. staff so he's there, Sloan is good but I think Brown is better, Jackson is more of a babysitter than a coach so he wouldn't have been appropriate here IMO. Much of the strategy you see employed by Jackson comes from his longtime assistant Tex Winters.

Tex Winters is the man I know, But seems like this years us team needs a good babysitter therefore jackson would have done better

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by loverboy
Brown is no doubt has showed briliance and gives him a reason why he was herald to the thown to lead the US team, beating Lakers and Phil Jackson alone is a record setting feat in the history books.

However, take note that these players have their own individual talents that paved way for their multi-$$$ paychecks for their respective ball club.

It's a matter for a coach to discipline its players regardless of their fame and money. Remember that Brown gave up his career at Philadelphia for he can't win any championship even with Iverson in his lineup. Same case for Jackson for he is not in good terms with Kobe/Payton who doesn't know what team playing is all about.

the bottom line is, are these players coachable despite their individual skills and are ready to play a team game?

I don't think it means much that Brown left Philly. He did get them to the finals but the West was just way too good in recent years to go through without strong post presences. He's never stayed anywhere for all that long so it wasn't much of a surprise that he left Philly.

Hell the man took the Clippers to the playoffs, he must be pretty good.

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by CraigA
The international game is a different animal than the NBA. It's much more perimeter oriented and hand checking is considered a foul. Also the rest of the world is catching up to the US in basketball, period. Look at how many Europeans are playing in the NBA now.
It's only an exhibition, yes, but without Shaq, Kobe and some other premier players who declined to play, this team will be hard pressed to medal IMO.

good point

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
Tex Winters is the man I know, But seems like this years us team needs a good babysitter therefore jackson would have done better

Having him on the staff might have been a good idea, but Jackson's too stubborn to abandon the NBA style of play and make adjustments.

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Shooter
I don't think it means much that Brown left Philly. He did get them to the finals but the West was just way too good in recent years to go through without strong post presences. He's never stayed anywhere for all that long so it wasn't much of a surprise that he left Philly.

Hell the man took the Clippers to the playoffs, he must be pretty good.

Brown is a good coach Im simply saying hes not great, The championship detroit won was given to them by the commisioner of basketball that series was by far the most obvious fixed series in basketball history so no I cant give props to coach brown.

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by Shooter
Having him on the staff might have been a good idea, but Jackson's too stubborn to abandon the NBA style of play and make adjustments.

Thats because he is a proven winner

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
Thats because he is a proven winner

The NBA style of play isn't going to win on the international level with this crop of players.

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
Brown is a good coach Im simply saying hes not great, The championship detroit won was given to them by the commisioner of basketball that series was by far the most obvious fixed series in basketball history so no I cant give props to coach brown.

Explain to me how the series was fixed.

molotov · 08-03-2004, 02:36 PM

that sucks!!

molotov · 08-03-2004, 02:37 PM

the us team should be the lakers...

alexg · 08-03-2004, 02:37 PM

If USA would send their best possible squad, ain't no team in europe could beat them..

not even Israel

Doctor Dre · 08-03-2004, 02:37 PM

Are all USA players comming from the NBA ? If they loose, that will just proove the NBA sucks badly ...

But I don't think so so they will most likely win gold easily

Shooter · 08-03-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by axelcat
Come on get real your talking about 9 championship rings from phil jackson to 1 from brown and not to mention poovich with 2 rings

Just noticed this post...

Man, if you're choosing coaches based on rings alone I'm glad you're not the one picking our staff. Those are all 3 good coaches yes, but Brown and Popovich would have had just as good a shot, if not better, at winning all those championships Jackson has if they had his players.

axelcat · 08-03-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Shooter
Explain to me how the series was fixed.

Simple, theres no way detroit would of beat the lakers if it wasnt for the officials who were guided by the commisioner, there were times in the series were I could of sworn seeing the officials wearing the detroit jerseys.lol

EviLGuY · 08-03-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls
I will never understand why Pro spots team players are able to play in the olympics.. a junior sporting event... the only sport i can think of that dosent allow this is figure skateing... how fucked up is that

The Olympics is a business like anything else.. if the pro's will get more people watching and attending, they are in.

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Shooter Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,842	The game was just an exhibition, so they're not out of anything. I only watched a little of the game but Italy was shooting nothing, and I mean nothing, but threes and hit pretty much every single one of them. Then on defense, they were packing in the zone. With a team that hasn't played together much, and is short on perimeter shooters, the U.S. was kinda screwed considering how hot the Italians were. The U.S. team is far from it's best possible, but still is much more talented overall than any other team. The problem is that they spend almost no time playing together when compared to the time the other teams spend. American players also are short on fundamentals, team play, and perimeter shooting thanks to that asshat David Stern's abomination to the basketball world, the NBA. The talent disparity isn't enough to overcome that anymore. They still are slight favorites IMO to win the gold but it wouldn't be surprising at all if they don't. I think a game like this could be a good wake up call though, as I think the American players haven't come to grips with how much the rest of the world has caught up. Last edited by Shooter; 08-03-2004 at 02:05 PM..

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xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	Damn it what is wrong with those sissy ass bitches? They lose the gold i'm never watching the NBA again...

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loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	true, gone are the days they bury their oppenents with a 50+ margins they really have some issues... i think of the game, Iverson and James were not allowed to play for they failed to report on time. well, we can say they are playing it lightly for its only an exhibition game.

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axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	come on they are all young players 1 or 2 years in the nba, omeka okafur has not played an nba game yet, james 2nd year man anthony 2nd year man might as well send college players

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axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	Brown is good but not the best, And the players that are representing the usa are not that great

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Mike AI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Elysian Fields Posts: 3,624	Coach Brown is one of the best coaches of all time. He LIVES for the game. The problem is the US has a young team, that has only played together for 2 weeks. Other countries have teams that have played together since they were in grade school. Basketball, especially international Basketballl is a TEAM sport. The NBA game is one based around stars, and thus they have a hard time playing team ball. However, Coach Brown is the master of TEAM ball - he convinced Detriot to play team ball and they destroyed the Lakers. If he can do this with the young NBA guys, and they can gel the next few weeks they should do ok. __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

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axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	They were 50-0 before todays game, come on give me a break this team is not good

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