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08-02-2004, 03:25 PM

"Though the beverage is not barred from sale in Europe, some countries have indeed banned it, including Denmark, Canada, Malaysia, and France. These countries cite concern over the beverage's high level of caffeine."

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someone told me redbull is banned in canada, i did a quick google search...

is this true?

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08-02-2004, 03:26 PM

not in canada? not yet anyway, i was in 7-11 yesterday and they had the real shit from Thailand on sale.

maybe this will change in the future? but as of now no.
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08-02-2004, 03:26 PM

Red Bull gives you wings...which means it causes genetic deformation...it should be illegal everywhere.
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08-02-2004, 03:28 PM

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08-02-2004, 03:28 PM

anyione in Canada that nedds red bull.....I can get it

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08-02-2004, 03:29 PM

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anyione in Canada that nedds red bull.....I can get it

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08-02-2004, 03:29 PM

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Red Bull gives you wings...which means it causes genetic deformation

You may be right
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08-02-2004, 03:29 PM

i drinkin one now
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08-02-2004, 03:29 PM

Redbull banned in Canada = Bullshit.

It's sold all over the place here.

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08-02-2004, 03:30 PM

i thought the redbull in canada was lacking the Taurine? Are there any canucks that verify this?

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08-02-2004, 03:32 PM

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i thought the redbull in canada was lacking the Taurine? Are there any canucks that verify this?

i am reading online and exactly, it says it is missing an ingredient, trying to find out....

if it is lacking an ingredient its not the same red bull.

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08-02-2004, 03:32 PM

not in spain, fortunately!.. but there are some "kinda-redbull" drinks over there..

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08-02-2004, 03:46 PM

No way. Gotta have that to wash down the vodka.

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08-02-2004, 03:47 PM

Anyone else like that drink "Sparks"? Reminds me of redbull thats all
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08-02-2004, 03:50 PM

They don't sell it here in quebec ... I know you can get some in china town somewhere

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08-02-2004, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
"Though the beverage is not barred from sale in Europe, some countries have indeed banned it, including Denmark, Canada, Malaysia, and France. These countries cite concern over the beverage's high level of caffeine."

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/redbull.htm

someone told me redbull is banned in canada, i did a quick google search...

is this true?

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08-02-2004, 03:51 PM

What happend...

They don't want you to have wings or something?
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08-02-2004, 03:53 PM

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08-02-2004, 04:00 PM

Far as i know the new canned stuff isn't the same as the stuff from thailand in the bottles that has a drug in it.
The bottled stuff was being served at a bar i worked at until the owner found out it was illegal.

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08-02-2004, 04:07 PM

I have a friend that works for Red Bull.

Normal Red Bull in Canada isn't allowed to be sold because it has taurine in it and taurine hasn't been approved by the health authorities in Canada. However, Red Bull is sold in Canada (just without the taurine in it), as well, you can buy the normal Red Bull in Canada even though it isn't legal plenty of places still sell it anyway. There are also at least 3 other energy drinks in Canada that are being sold and have taurine in them anyway.

So, yes, regular Red Bull isn't legal in Canada, however the law isn't enforced and you can find plenty of regular Red Bull being sold in Canada.

This is true of other countries as well that haven't approved taurine for sale.

On top of all this, my friend said Health Canada is nearing the stages of approval for taurine to be sold in drinks in Canada.

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08-02-2004, 04:18 PM

I've never seen the carbinated version of redbull (canned ones) sold in canada, only this weird bottled stuff that tastes the safe but lower caffein.

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08-02-2004, 04:21 PM

I can't do caffien in high doses..so red bull is out of the question.. cant even drink but a few sips of coffee and soda at a time..
I guess it saves my body from caffiene ravaging
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08-02-2004, 04:22 PM

its banned in france I think because they don't allow vitamin/suplements type stuff to be aded to foods or something

seems pretty stupid to ban something thats safe but there you go same shit with weed in most places
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08-02-2004, 04:22 PM

I believe they have to go through New Zealand to sell in Australia, as there is some loop hole that allows them to skip the semi-ban on such products here.
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08-02-2004, 04:29 PM

A lot of people think Red Bull is banned in all these countries, it's not so much banned as it is "not yet approved". And it's not Red Bull that isn't approved, it's taurine that isn't approved.

When Red Bull started in Austria in the 1980s it took 3 years to get approved, it then moved on to Germany where it took 5 years to get approved. It's not that it was banned in these countries, it's that it wasn't approved.

But for the sake of Red Bull myth and legend, they like the fact that people think it's "banned" because that makes it taboo, and therefore all the "cool kids" gotta have it.

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08-02-2004, 04:31 PM

RedBull sucks. Drink something else.
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08-02-2004, 04:31 PM

i drank that stuff and didnt feel anything.
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08-02-2004, 04:32 PM

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08-02-2004, 04:41 PM

I think it should be! Too much taurine and alcohol makes ya blackout and get violent! I've seen it happen to several people who can handle alcohol well, but when they had too much redbull as well they went nuts (I did on my birthday,blacked out and decked some guy wearing a sox hat on the street)
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08-02-2004, 04:42 PM

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I think it should be! Too much taurine and alcohol makes ya blackout and get violent! I've seen it happen to several people who can handle alcohol well, but when they had too much redbull as well they went nuts (I did on my birthday,blacked out and decked some guy wearing a sox hat on the street)

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08-02-2004, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by BRISK

But for the sake of Red Bull myth and legend, they like the fact that people think it's "banned" because that makes it taboo, and therefore all the "cool kids" gotta have it.

from what i have read it seems the opposite. the company itself insists it is NOT BANNED, but its the people against red bull who say it is.

i have read a few interviews with the CEO etc, and all i have seen is his insisting it is not banned, that its the hype about it and not his product.

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08-02-2004, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I've never seen the carbinated version of redbull (canned ones) sold in canada, only this weird bottled stuff that tastes the safe but lower caffein.

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08-02-2004, 05:03 PM

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from what i have read it seems the opposite. the company itself insists it is NOT BANNED, but its the people against red bull who say it is.

i have read a few interviews with the CEO etc, and all i have seen is his insisting it is not banned, that its the hype about it and not his product.

red bull is alot less cool than it was a few years ago.. the coolness is dying off.
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08-02-2004, 05:04 PM

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from what i have read it seems the opposite. the company itself insists it is NOT BANNED, but its the people against red bull who say it is.

i have read a few interviews with the CEO etc, and all i have seen is his insisting it is not banned, that its the hype about it and not his product.

He can't say it's banned because it isn't banned, it's just not approved yet. The approval time for some countries can take a long time.

He would by lying if he said it was banned.

It's like when pharmaceutical drug companies are seeking FDA approval for a new drug. Until they get FDA approval they're not banned, but they're not approved yet either.

For something to be banned, it would have had to have been sold originally and then the government decided to ban it. That isn't the case here.

Pending approval is not the same as being banned.

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08-02-2004, 05:06 PM

It was under investigation in some countries because they thought it might be linked to sudden deaths of people that drank it after heavy exercise, as well as some people that were mixing it with alcohol. Not sure if they ever cleared the drink as the culprit in those deaths.
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08-02-2004, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by TheMob?
red bull is alot less cool than it was a few years ago.. the coolness is dying off.

Very few things that are "cool" can ever manage to stay "cool"

Red Bull has been around for like 20 years though, so I'd say it's doing ok for maintaining its "coolness"

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08-02-2004, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by TheMob?
red bull is alot less cool than it was a few years ago.. the coolness is dying off.

well thats not really what sales are saying.

they are doing 1+ billion in sales a year.

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08-02-2004, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
"Though the beverage is not barred from sale in Europe, some countries have indeed banned it, including Denmark, Canada, Malaysia, and France. These countries cite concern over the beverage's high level of caffeine."

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/redbull.htm

someone told me redbull is banned in canada, i did a quick google search...

is this true?

You can still get it up here..
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08-02-2004, 05:17 PM

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well thats not really what sales are saying.

they are doing 1+ billion in sales a year.

And paradoxically, that's exactly the reason it's losing it's coolness. Because it really has no other effects than a can of regular coke or a cup of coffee with a bunch of sugar, it has to rely on a mysterious, drug-like image. The more people drink it, the more it becomes a household brand instead of a trendy one. As a household brand, it sucks - it's just an overpriced softdrink which doesn't even taste all that great.

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08-02-2004, 05:21 PM

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And paradoxically, that's exactly the reason it's losing it's coolness. Because it really has no other effects than a can of regular coke or a cup of coffee with a bunch of sugar, it has to rely on a mysterious, drug-like image. The more people drink it, the more it becomes a household brand instead of a trendy one. As a household brand, it sucks - it's just an overpriced softdrink which doesn't even taste all that great.

But it must have been a hell of a ride for the founder

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08-02-2004, 05:26 PM

Its More than just a soft drink......I find it working especially when I have long drives, or Long nites and I dont want to get drunk. In Europe I usually buy at the gas stations , when I have a long drive ahead!

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08-02-2004, 06:14 PM

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Its More than just a soft drink......I find it working especially when I have long drives, or Long nites and I dont want to get drunk. In Europe I usually buy at the gas stations , when I have a long drive ahead!

Could it be placebo effect?

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08-02-2004, 06:19 PM

Redbull has a hell of a lot more caffeine than a can of coke or a cup of coffee. If i remember correctly its about 2 1/2 cups of coffee not to mention the sugars and taurine. I usually stay up pretty late on the weekends doing work, hanging with friends etc. and find that on a Sat or Sun afternoon a redbull gets me going again. I personally think it tastes like liquid sweettarts. One of my friends that is 28 went into cardiac arrest (sp?) after drinking 6 of them in a 3 hour period. The doctors attributed the attack on the redbull, however, to have a heart attack that early in life points to problems down the road IMO.

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08-02-2004, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by mardigras
Could it be placebo effect?

Not on me, I had a few too many in Atlanta, and got shortness of breath because of it So I know I can Only handle so many

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08-02-2004, 06:26 PM

I've never seen it and I've looked for it in convenience and health stores.
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08-02-2004, 06:27 PM

Well it could be banned here. It wouldnt affect me because I think it tastes gross.

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08-02-2004, 06:37 PM

yeh tastes like shit.. hate it!
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08-02-2004, 06:45 PM

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Redbull has a hell of a lot more caffeine than a can of coke or a cup of coffee. If i remember correctly its about 2 1/2 cups of coffee not to mention the sugars and taurine. I usually stay up pretty late on the weekends doing work, hanging with friends etc. and find that on a Sat or Sun afternoon a redbull gets me going again. I personally think it tastes like liquid sweettarts. One of my friends that is 28 went into cardiac arrest (sp?) after drinking 6 of them in a 3 hour period. The doctors attributed the attack on the redbull, however, to have a heart attack that early in life points to problems down the road IMO.

It has *less* caffeine than coffee. Red Bull contains 286 mg/L of caffeine, while coffee contains 500-600 mg/L of caffeine.

The amount of sugar in a can comes down to about 5 teaspoons, which isn't really all that much.

Taurine is something that is found in many foods, and while it's a nutrient that may be essential, there is no clear evidence that consuming large amounts of it has any additional effect whatsoever. In fact, it's known that excess taurine is pissed out.

If a single can of Red Bull has any significant effect on you, I'm afraid chances are that that's the placebo effect at work.

As for your friend... I don't know what else he had that evening, but drinking 6 cups of coffee within a short period of time isn't a great idea with a bad heart anyway.

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08-02-2004, 07:21 PM

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It has *less* caffeine than coffee. Red Bull contains 286 mg/L of caffeine, while coffee contains 500-600 mg/L of caffeine.

The amount of sugar in a can comes down to about 5 teaspoons, which isn't really all that much.

Taurine is something that is found in many foods, and while it's a nutrient that may be essential, there is no clear evidence that consuming large amounts of it has any additional effect whatsoever. In fact, it's known that excess taurine is pissed out.

If a single can of Red Bull has any significant effect on you, I'm afraid chances are that that's the placebo effect at work.

As for your friend... I don't know what else he had that evening, but drinking 6 cups of coffee within a short period of time isn't a great idea with a bad heart anyway.

huh, so each can of redbull is about 2 cans of coke. as far as the placebo effect on me, i drink one cup of coffee per day and then switch to water or juice, when i drink it on the weekend i have already had my morning coffee so it is a boost that my system is not used to.

According to everything i have read there is evidence of tauring in meats, however, it is too new to get any accurate numbers on how much taurine is in foods. taurine affects the nervous system and the development of the brain. Redbull contains 1000mg of it which im sure is a significant amount.

Glucuronolactone is also known to give the body a natural energy boost. It was actually rumored that it was given to troops in high doses before they went into battle in vietnam. it also helps detoxify you body.

As far as my friend going into arrest he was mixing anywhere from 1-2 shots of vodka per can of redbull. He found out the hard way he has a weak heart.

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08-02-2004, 09:09 PM

I drink a can every morning.

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