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Old 07-31-2004, 06:01 PM   #1
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Have you seen this video yet?

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/video...-Armstrong.wmv

Black guy gets friggin shot the fuck up, and keeps walking,,,for a little bit.
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Old 07-31-2004, 06:13 PM   #3
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what a so fucking IDIOTS are policemans, I will shoot them all! they all are going to kill everybody because its the easiest way for them instead shot to legs or try to benumb a criminal.. they have inhibitors, why not using them? what a fucking idiots, holy shit
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Old 07-31-2004, 06:16 PM   #4
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what a so fucking IDIOTS are policemans, I will shoot them all! they all are going to kill everybody instead shot to legs or try to benumb a criminal.. what a fucking idiots, holy shit
You did see at the beginning of the video where the officer from the right was trying to take him down, right? And then when the suspect turns toward the officer on the left with his gun pointing at him and the officers fire and strike him, you expect them just to shoot for his legs???

You Sir are the Idiot.
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yeah, shot for his legs and DENUMB him, because they could do this! Then take him to prison! Why kill? For what? Who gave them rights to killing people? OK, they can kill when their life is menaced.. but no otherwise! You seen, they shoot for his back!

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Damn.. I counted 8 shots before he went down... the power of PCP
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You did see at the beginning of the video where the officer from the right was trying to take him down, right? And then when the suspect turns toward the officer on the left with his gun pointing at him and the officers fire and strike him, you expect them just to shoot for his legs???

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yeah, shot for his legs and DENUMB him, because they could do this! Then take him to prison! Why kill? For what? Who gave them rights to killing people? OK, they can kill when their life is menaced.. but no otherwise! You seen, they shoot for his back!


I can say the same about you, but I'm not, cause I told my point of view only.
Menaced? Ya think? How about aggravated menacing? How about he was a fleeing felon? How about knowing something about being in that kind of situation before you open your mouth.
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actually,,,when I was 1st watching it,,,I was like NOOOOOO when the cop pulled in front of the car b/c the dashboard camera was out of range.

but it captured everything center stage
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actually,,,when I was 1st watching it,,,I was like NOOOOOO when the cop pulled in front of the car b/c the dashboard camera was out of range.

but it captured everything center stage
Except the reason for the pursuit and everything that happened before the suspect came back in front of the camera.
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no way that guy lived.


He definitely pointed a gun at the cops but I don't think he fired a shot and then they fucking loaded him up all in the back. It is a little fucked up, but in the heat of the moment I guess thats self defense.

ANd to the dumbass: police NEVER shoot to wound or stun, if you shoot, its to kill.
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Menaced? Ya think? How about aggravated menacing? How about he was a fleeing felon? How about knowing something about being in that kind of situation before you open your mouth.
I've been in alike situation when the druggist attacked me and my friend, he was using a knife, not a gun.. my friend was hurted, druggist cut him an artery and doctors said he had been at death's door.. and we ain't kill the druggist even so we had a knifes too and very strong Russian tear-gas and we might, but tried to benumb him.. he escaped because it was prior for me to call 112 for help, not to fight with him..

So, maybe I'm wrong in my mind, but I'm definitely against to killing people!!!
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what a so fucking IDIOTS are policemans, I will shoot them all! they all are going to kill everybody because its the easiest way for them instead shot to legs or try to benumb a criminal.. they have inhibitors, why not using them? what a fucking idiots, holy shit
yeah!!!!!, why do police have guns right ?? fuCk dA pO pO right G? we should arm them with big fishing nets instead so they could have just threw it over that guy! 187 on a piGGy riGht NiggA??? HELL YEAH!
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I've been in alike situation when the druggist attacked me and my friend, he was using a knife, not a gun.. my friend was hurted, druggist cut him an artery and doctors said he had been at death's door.. and we ain't kill the druggist even so we had a knifes too and very strong Russian tear-gas and we might, but tried to benumb him.. he escaped because it was prior for me to call 112 for help, not to fight with him..

So, maybe I'm wrong in my mind, but I'm definitely against to killing people!!!
I understand that man, but your rationale seems to be aimed at unjustified killing. Based on what video was presented, there is justification for the officers to use deadly force without any doubt. It is still a homicide, they did indeed purposefully take the life of another while using a deadly weapon, but it was justified.
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yeah!!!!!, why do police have guns right ?? fuCk dA pO pO right G? we should arm them with big fishing nets instead so they could have just threw it over that guy! 187 on a piGGy riGht NiggA??? HELL YEAH!
you doesn't understand me altogether, i'm sorry... they will use gun but ONLY when its necesarry and NOT FOR KILLING PEOPLE, even for denumb/wound/stun/whatevah and take the criminal to prison
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Why kill? For what? Who gave them rights to killing people?
double standards?

good video he must have been cracked out of his head to take that many bullets
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I understand that man, but your rationale seems to be aimed at unjustified killing. Based on what video was presented, there is justification for the officers to use deadly force without any doubt. It is still a homicide, they did indeed purposefully take the life of another while using a deadly weapon, but it was justified.
ok, maybe you are right and i'm wrong, end this brawl
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you doesn't understand me altogether, i'm sorry... they will use gun but ONLY when its necesarry and NOT FOR KILLING PEOPLE, even for denumb/wound/stun/whatevah and take the criminal to prison
IM WIT U G!! oNLY when da suspec be having a gernade and a tank den we be allows to cap dem!! even if dey be having AK-47 in da hand and shootin away at us, den we only be allows to inJuRy them in dere big toe!!
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IM WIT U G!! oNLY when da suspec be having a gernade and a tank den we be allows to cap dem!! even if dey be having AK-47 in da hand and shootin away at us, den we only be allows to inJuRy them in dere big toe!!
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what a so fucking IDIOTS are policemans, I will shoot them all! they all are going to kill everybody because its the easiest way for them instead shot to legs or try to benumb a criminal.. they have inhibitors, why not using them? what a fucking idiots, holy shit
did you look at the video? what would you do?
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what a so fucking IDIOTS are policemans, I will shoot them all! they all are going to kill everybody because its the easiest way for them instead shot to legs or try to benumb a criminal.. they have inhibitors, why not using them? what a fucking idiots, holy shit
Yo are you fucking nutzo. That dude had a gun and turned and pointed it right at them.

Fuck that loser. Shoot his ass dead. I'm sick of these fucking criminals that we have to pay for in prison. Get rid of them. All they are is a burden and danger to society.

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did you look at the video? what would you do?
i don't know, probably i would do the same as policemans, but it's just easy to say something, not that easy to do this... but I'm still against killing people, fuck, in situations like that its hard to unequivocal say what to do
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i don't know, probably i would do the same as policemans, but it's just easy to say something, not that easy to do this... but I'm still against killing people, fuck, in situations like that its hard to unequivocal say what to do
I've had a bunch of friends that were in law enforcement over the years and the first thing they have to be able to do as a cop is to shoot to kill instantly when someone points a gun at them. You don't even have 1 second to hesitate and think about it or you're toast.
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tough call, the guy clearly had a gun and did momentarily point it at the officer but turned and walked away.. However the cop didn't shoot at that point, he waited untill the guy turned and kept walking...

over all I think the officer was in the right, but I think this could have been a case for a Tazer instead of a gun... but it's a tough call and the guy did have a gun.
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Before I downloaded this and did not know the city it happened in I felt completely differant about it. Most of you do not know this area because you are not from Louisiana.


Your arguments about quick decisions and police shoot to kill tactics are all blown out of the water by the fact that he pointed the weapon and the officer grappled with him and had the gun to his head, the guy walked off and then he was chased, had ANOTHER chance to fire and did not and then was shot in the back. Sorry cops got owned on this one they should have put one in him when he first got out the car and pointed his weapon after that the time of reactionary deadly force is passed. Watched it with a few sherrif's officers I know and they said when they had the gun to his head his brains would have been all over the pavement no questions asked and if not he should have been dropped before he even had a chance to point the second time. They killed him in the line of duty but the people I talked to said that this was sloppy and they opened themselves up to some NAACP troubles most definitely, what a waste of resources...... I feel sorriest for the people of the city who had to pay for this when the SPD got sued.
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Stupid ass shouldnt have been waving a gun around. Should have known better.
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Before I downloaded this and did not know the city it happened in I felt completely differant about it. Most of you do not know this area because you are not from Louisiana.


Your arguments about quick decisions and police shoot to kill tactics are all blown out of the water by the fact that he pointed the weapon and the officer grappled with him and had the gun to his head, the guy walked off and then he was chased, had ANOTHER chance to fire and did not and then was shot in the back. Sorry cops got owned on this one they should have put one in him when he first got out the car and pointed his weapon after that the time of reactionary deadly force is passed. Watched it with a few sherrif's officers I know and they said when they had the gun to his head his brains would have been all over the pavement no questions asked and if not he should have been dropped before he even had a chance to point the second time. They killed him in the line of duty but the people I talked to said that this was sloppy and they opened themselves up to some NAACP troubles most definitely, what a waste of resources...... I feel sorriest for the people of the city who had to pay for this when the SPD got sued.

You made some fantastic points. But what we do not know is what was going on in the initial crime that they were cahsing him. as well as his background. The cops may have known that he was high enough, that if they shot him while he was facing them, that he would have killed at least one of them There fore they made the choice to shoot him as he attempted to continue to flee ( Armed ) where he posed an even greater threat to any civilains..


Not a call I would want to make as the State attorney!
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You did see at the beginning of the video where the officer from the right was trying to take him down, right? And then when the suspect turns toward the officer on the left with his gun pointing at him and the officers fire and strike him, you expect them just to shoot for his legs???

You Sir are the Idiot.
total fucking agreement. take a worthless piece of shit out to do harm to others and give him a gun, then take police trying to protect normal people who wanna live their lives as best they can. which one would you rather see walk away? this guy clearly had a fucking gun, and as the other cop approached him he turned to fire, the other cop legally could have shot him even before he turned to fire. do you think shooting him in the legs would have stopped him from pulling the trigger, most certainly not, if so you watch too many movies. this dumbass deserved what he got. plain and simple.
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The police did the right thing. The guy next door to me is a cop. The shit he deals you would think there would be more deaths. They do what they have to do. If there lives are in danger they will take the life of the suspect to stay alive. If you shoot them in the leg chances are thats not going to stop them from shooting. Ive seen videos when they just shoot more. They made the right decision.
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cops did the right thing, sure they hesitated a bit when they got out but it went so fast, then when he pointed the gun at them the cop on the right started shooting him then when the cop on the left saw he was still walking he started shooting him also. if a guy keeps walking after shooting him a bunch of times naturally you'd keep shooting him till he's down, especially if he has a gun (unless you wanna get shot!)
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If you notice ,,,the 1st time you see the guy,,he has both hands on the gun walking & pointing towards the 2nd officer.

and still,,,the other cop had the gun to his head and the cop still did not shoot.

I'm just glad that I don't have to make decisions like that
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damn how many shots did they fire at him ?
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well he aimed a gun at one cop one time.. then kept walking,... then pointed the gun at the cops head a second time..

... there is no question on this killing.

well minus the blatant fact that the CIA supplies 70% of the cocaine and heroine in the USA. I mean if there wasn't cocaine/crack and heroine driving the black community, they might do something else besides own guns and be violent?
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when someone points a gun to your head, you dont fuck around.. imo they should have shot him as soon as he raised the gun.

if they would have waited another second chances are one of those officers would be dead.
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Originally posted by strats

well minus the blatant fact that the CIA supplies 70% of the cocaine and heroine in the USA.
i'll get the tinfoil hats, you find a hideout
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