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|  07-30-2004, 07:52 PM | #1 | 
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				MegaPornBucks Caught Stealing AGAIN
			 I cant believe what I thought was a friend of mine is ripping me off. First Charlo steals joins from ccbill with his spyware hack and redirects them to his OWN paycom pages and now the asswhipe has stolen the adultloveline dbase and is using it on HIS OWN dating sites,, dateawife.com etc.. He can expect a big FAT lawsuit on monday.. and I can find him in Vancouver. I still cant believe it but someone tipped me off.. Guess once a thief always a thief.  
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|  07-30-2004, 07:55 PM | #2 | 
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				 | sorry to hear that  
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|  07-30-2004, 07:58 PM | #3 | 
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				 | how did he get access to your database? | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:03 PM | #4 | 
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				 | Not sure,, i think he had one of his programmers go in and rip the guts out,, I just cross referenced his profiles with adultloveline and there the exact same ones.. 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:05 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Sorry to hear that JB.... best of luck. Charlo isn't really doing all that well lately. Karma I guess. | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:11 PM | #6 | 
| March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room 
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				 | Amazing what people stoop to in this biz. | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:12 PM | #7 | 
| Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound 
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				 | milk it milk it.. | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:14 PM | #8 | 
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				 | Charlo is on the run with his millions in offshore accounts. | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:14 PM | #9 | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:14 PM | #10 | 
| want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake 
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				 | Sorry to  hear,  yo  are  catching  some bullshit  JB... TCG rocks  | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:17 PM | #11 | |
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|  07-30-2004, 08:19 PM | #12 | 
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				 | Wow, now that's really low for Charlo to steal someone else's database. I still can't believe it to be honest but after the spyware changing join page urls, this wouldn't be a shocker. Best of luck JB. PS: If a script or program ripped the database off, your weblogs would have record of it. You might want to talk with Timmy to see if this was the case, or at least archive it for now. WG 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:42 PM | #13 | 
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				 | wow..  he icq'ed me the other day saying he got his processing back.. no fucking way anyone can trust that guy ever.. sucks.. he sent a ton of joins.. but damn. great to have "friends" eh? 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:44 PM | #14 | 
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				 | I have never dealt with the guy but I tell ya, I don't hear one damn good thing about him. He seems to have crossed a lot of people by the posts I read about him. | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:46 PM | #15 | 
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				 | the thing that blows about this.. is that JB paid for each profile.. and there are like 1.5M +/- profiles.. 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:47 PM | #16 | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:49 PM | #17 | |
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|  07-30-2004, 08:51 PM | #18 | |
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|  07-30-2004, 08:57 PM | #19 | 
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				 | Who tipped off JB? | 
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|  07-30-2004, 08:58 PM | #20 | |
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|  07-30-2004, 09:01 PM | #21 | 
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				 | Who would trust this guy ever again? 
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|  07-30-2004, 09:01 PM | #22 | 
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				 | Charlo owes more taxes than Tyson. | 
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|  07-31-2004, 08:59 AM | #23 | |
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|  07-31-2004, 09:06 AM | #24 | |
| want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake 
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|  07-31-2004, 09:12 AM | #25 | 
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				 | fuck the lawsuit if i was you and if i was knowing where to get him i'd send down 3 polish 'friends' then have the lawsuit send to him. | 
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|  07-31-2004, 09:31 AM | #26 | 
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				 | And another one to add to the shitlist. I'm starting to believe those that said it woul dbe easier to maintain a good list  
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|  07-31-2004, 10:09 AM | #27 | 
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				 | Outch......... Hope you get it sorted | 
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|  07-31-2004, 10:34 AM | #28 | 
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				 | Probably he stole the dating script from somewhere too.  The SSL is issued in a company located in Malaysia. | 
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|  07-31-2004, 10:36 AM | #29 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Netherlands 
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				 | Kill that bizatch. | 
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|  07-31-2004, 10:40 AM | #30 | 
| GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com 
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				 | Shit, I work too hard. If I could only have nice trojans and stolen databases, I'd make a fortune.  Looks like Charlo is toast. Nice find JB. | 
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|  07-31-2004, 11:25 AM | #31 | |
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|  07-31-2004, 11:37 AM | #32 | |
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|  07-31-2004, 11:40 AM | #33 | 
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				 | Last time I heard Charlo had sold off all his adult internet businesses. I thought he was focusing on mainstream stuff? DH | 
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|  07-31-2004, 12:23 PM | #34 | |
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 Is this generally stealling from any site that uses ccbill? | |
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|  07-31-2004, 12:25 PM | #35 | |
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 I heard the same thing through the rumour mill. More like it was significant pressure to sell though   WG 
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|  07-31-2004, 12:27 PM | #36 | 
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				 | Holy FUCK Bro, that's some nasty shit to do. Especially since like you said you considered a friend. Glad you caught that one up JB. 
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|  07-31-2004, 12:29 PM | #37 | 
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				 | Harlot, He was redirecting Joins from ccbill page with his exe spyware to paycom but they both stopped processing.. Now I think he found someone else to process his sites. I heard FTC is all over this and will be serving him shortly or freezing all his bank accounts once they find them all. Guess he figures since we were friends he could steal my dating dbase and go on his merry way. I already have a conf call with my lawyers and have a team of people gathering evidence. The complaint will be filed for over $5 million in damages some time next week.  
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|  07-31-2004, 12:30 PM | #38 | |
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 ...shame ... ... shame on ... fool me ... ...you can't get fooled again. | |
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|  07-31-2004, 12:34 PM | #39 | 
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				 | I'd do a lot more than sue him. edit: if he's got money go after him in court. if he doesn't you got to shut up and fuck him up real good. 
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|  07-31-2004, 12:38 PM | #40 | 
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				 | God some people in this business go sooooooo low ... the worst is that some of them are the ones that make the most $ | 
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|  07-31-2004, 12:48 PM | #41 | 
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				 | JB, Bunch of bs there! 
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|  07-31-2004, 12:52 PM | #42 | 
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				 | Hire a heroin addict in Vancouver to stick him with an HIV needle. | 
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|  07-31-2004, 12:59 PM | #43 | |
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|  07-31-2004, 01:16 PM | #44 | |
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|  07-31-2004, 01:47 PM | #45 | 
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				 | this thread makes me laugh.  people act like charlo is the only shady mother fucker swimming in these waters. tisk tisk. good luck with the lawsuit JB, hope it works out for you. | 
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|  07-31-2004, 02:15 PM | #46 | |
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 Some are based in Texas. Hiring hackers to get DBs. I even heard a rumor that MPA has been comprimised. | |
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|  07-31-2004, 02:56 PM | #47 | |
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 then about 2-3 weeks later I started getting spam to it... either jettis' db was compromised or my install of MPA was the thing is my program isn't public or anything (I was just sending a few sales) right now so I doubt I was "targeted" by hackers... not pointing fingers or anything but it makes you wonder who is at fault or if there are some crooked things going on at one of those places | |
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|  07-31-2004, 03:01 PM | #48 | 
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				 | JB, can you give some pointers as to how you discovered this. It's a great find. How can others who run dating type sites avoid this or at least locate a site that has taken portions or all of the profiles of another site? Were you simply emailed about this and the existence of his dating sites or did you use another means (did the people in the profiles actually receive emails from the other site that took their profiles?)? Hope all works out for you. | 
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|  07-31-2004, 03:12 PM | #49 | 
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				 | Damn bastard Nail that MoFo to the wall by his balls... | 
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|  07-31-2004, 03:14 PM | #50 | 
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				 | Damn, sorry to hear that man. | 
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