We do not have a two party system...we have a multiple party system. It is just that people still predominantly choose to go with the two oldest and most popular parties. Voters will decide when these two parties have "had its day"...or not.

Living as we rot,
Showered with shadows of dreams devoured.
Our souls descend into endless seas of sin.
There's no turning back.
No repenting, no remorse.
Hate stricken creation.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

It's time to burn.
Burn alive.
Burn at the stake.

Our eyes crystal clear,
our bodies frozen with fear,
and there's nothing to save us now from endless suffering and solitude.
We've lost the chance to save this dying world.
So we pay the price,
of which no one can afford.

This is our last breath.
The first in a world.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

I realize in this world.
There is not one truth cast into stone.
Only lies cast into flames.

I just farted! Coincidence? :Graucho

So does this mean Juicy, that you officially endorse Kerry for president?

i hope no one in this biz is voting for Bush......might as well leave now if you are. :2 cents:

Exactly Putin is merely buying himself the goodwill to do whatever he wants to do in Czechnya

a recurring theme with more and more people I run into everyday...


bush is TOAST

We have pressing issues to deal with on our own planet..

My parents are Repubs. My dad is on the town council and has participated on local politics for years.

They're both voting for Kerry, and are appalled with what Bush and his cronies have done to the Republican party.

My grandma...another Republican...thinks Bush is a war criminal. She's renting a van and taking people who can't make it to vote on their own to the polls. She lives in a predominently black community, so I'm betting that these folks won't be voting for Bush either.

the only good thing about 12clicks and the other conservative republican pornographers is that they won't be able to vote after Asscrack puts them in jail. They'll be convicted felons.

But I bet you Ronnie will still be conservative and think everyone else is an idiot while he's bent over in his cell making Leroy happy :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

can you say murdered Russian journalists?

Putin is a thug.

That's not the issue.
The issue is what has he DONE for this country.

Please give one concrete thing that he has done that has improved this country since he took office. I've noticed the Republicans can never come up with anything specific, just the usual generalizations.

BULL FUCKING SHIT!!! Everybody KNEW that he did NOT have wmd's. For every report that could be interpreted, if you really really wanted to, to intimate that he had wmds there were FOUR that said there way no way he could have them.

Bush and Co. cherry picked the info they wanted, tried to pass off info they KNEW was bad (yellowcake) as incriminating and generally just relied on a large enough % of the population being really stupid so they could get away with it.

You say dems voted for the war too. Well what the fuck else could they do? Most of them knew, or at least suspected, that Bush was totally full of shit with his 'evidence' but they don't have the access to intelligence the President does. To a certain extent they have to take his word for it, even when they're pretty sure he's a total fucking idiot.

That's why it's important to have a President with a certain amount of competence.

How does it feel to know that your idol killed 1,000 americans and countless Iraqis for nothing 12clicks?

Your stocks have just gone up in my book Juicy. :thumbsup

FUCK BUSH!

Just like they always call Michael Moore a liar without ever being able to say exactly what he lied about.

There'll always be enough Ronnies in this country who take their word for it.

Lol yep thats right. Their official word was that they didnt need to see it in order to know it was all lies. lmao

Born with a silver foot in his mouth..

Totally incorrect! Not only did the intelligence agencies of other nations tell Bush that there were not WsMD in Iraq, but Bush's own intellgence agencies in the lower echelons submitted reports saying the same.

But Bush was insistent that they FIND some intelligence that supported the WsMD issue, and that's why he told his advisors after 9/11 to FIND evidence supporting this theory!

EVEN the U.N. inspectors said they could find none, and even then, Bush would not wait for them to finish their inspection.
WHY would it have been harmful to allow the inspectors to finish their job??

one of the major points i think heres is more HOW the war started now why. Sadam was a bag of shit and needed to be removed from powewr. ITs the way it was done that i question. Yes i agree the UN had there thumb up there ass in regards to sadam and the last ten years. Was Military intervention required. Probably.. just not then and to this degree. And doing it now without UN support leaves a bad taste in the mouth of the rest of the world.

I was for the removal of sadam.. but as far as the occupation and whatnot i beleave it was miss handled just my :2 cents:

Yep, of course it's how it was handled (whether you call it lies, or extreme incompetence).

Nukes? No credible evidence, but it was put forth in a way that insinuated STRONG evidence.

WMD? No credible evidence, was put forth as VERY strong "evidence" but revealed to be "assumed" by all parties.

Link to 9/11? No credible evidence of anything but a cursory "hello" at most.

So now we hear it was to:

Liberate the people of Iraq from a brutal dictator? Huh? No democrat or republican voted "Aye" for THAT reason!

Because hussein gassed kurds? Huh? He did THAT in the late 1980's, Hello! We could have killed hussein in 1991 desert storm if we felt so strongly about it.

But thats the latest spin being put on it. If it's not one thing, it'll be another and die hards will just toe that line.

So you see, it makes no sense to make sense when if one reason is discredited, they just move onto another "reason", no matter how unrelated.

Why then did the Israeli...French...German...British...Russian intel agencies concur that Iraq possessed WMD/WMD materials? Why then was 1441 passed by the UN Security counsel...by all 15 members? Ignore the facts all you want pothead...it does not change them.

It is now being reported that the "yellowcake" may be the only thing the intel agencies got right. Apparently the one document was a forged document but does not alter the fact that Iraq was attempting to aquire "yellowcake". Pay attention...Danny boy...you are behind the current news in this matter...or do you just choose to ignore it?

Wrong...Danny boy...the House and Senate Intel Committees have the same intel available to them as the President does...and if I recall correctly they voted to a man and woman to provide the President with the power to use our military "as he deems necessary". Educate yourself...pothead before you speak.

They have not died for nothing...they have died to achieve a mission and the mission in Iraq is an extention of the war on "terrorism". There is a big picture Danny boy...but with your very limited insight you will never see the big picture. WMD's was but a small part of the big picture. You are an ultra left wing pot smoking extremist...with a tiny amount of brain power...and that is all you are...Danny boy.

Pigshit.

And if you beleave the bigger picture is the "War On Terror" Then you havent really be looking at the "Big Picture"

87% of american gun owners are more afraid of violent crime then terrorist attact

So it would seem to me that alot of people are missing that big picture:2 cents:

It is an extention of the war on "terrorism" for multiple reasons... that I have explained before...but a primary reason is...it is the first step in an attempt to change the face of the middle east.

you stupid fucking redneck, those kids weren't sent to die to change the face of the middle east, they were sent to avenge 9-11.

do you have an adult website? Are you still a backbrace wearing drunk who lives with his mommy in her trailer?

Get the fuck off this board you bizarre piece of shit.

Hey pathfinder, how many times did your own platoon mates have to run you over before they finally got you out of the company?

Using your middle name now eh? :1orglaugh

Or like the U.S.A. where they die in the waiting room!

:1orglaugh

http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/3572965/detail.html

it's all Bill Clintons fault didnt you hear :helpme

he has a way of latching onto a particular word or 'insult' and using it in every single post from then on. He's a bit simple.

the new buzz phrase is "BAKED IN". watch for it. you'll see the bush talking heads use it from now until november.

A drunk callling someone a pothead. Kind of like a murderer calling a thief a criminal.

Pothead pigshit. BTW I saw the pic you posted...funny stuff...but much like I would have thought. Raggedy and strange looking but typical for a pothead. :321GFY Danny boy...you are not and have never been in my chain of command...I...as your superior...do as I please.

You missed your therapists appointment AGAIN didn't you!
You're just jealous cuz you don't have any friends to even smoke a blunt with!

So Mr. Superior..get out there and get this month's welfare check!

The number of times that I get drunk annually I can count on one hand...if that qualifies as being a drunk...then I happily hold my hand up to be counted.

Remember your goal for next year:

Being able to count up to ten using your 2nd hand!

Damn...you should apply for the Last Comic Standing show...but then again...you wouldn't be.

Mr. Superior, I could knock you out with my big toe.

btw Danny Boy really isn't an insult for an Irish person such as myself. Also, did you just learn the word 'pigshit'? I noticed you're using it in every post now.

hey I heard you don't have any porn sites, you're just some sweaty old perv who lives with his mother and hangs out here. Is that true?

25% Irish here ;)
I'm a pikey mutt though :Graucho

Stop wasting your time, folks haven't bothered to read bits like the New Yorker series on the 10 year Neo-con Chalabi connection to overthrough saddam.

After you read series like those, you see there isn't much to argue about.

I'm surprized nobody has mentioned how major news outlets like the NY times are APOLOGIZING for their less than critical analysis on the war on terror and the war in iraq after 9/11.