Senator Kerry's speech - GoFuckYourself.com

theking · 07-29-2004, 10:32 PM

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"Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required. Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security. And I will build a stronger American military."

"We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations. We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives and win the battle."

Though his voting record somewhat belies these statements he at least is talking the talk that I approve. I will await what takes place over the next 3 months or so before I make a final decision about voting for Senator Kerry. It is still possible that...for the first time since I have been of voting age...I may abstain this next election.

zanycash Pete · 07-29-2004, 10:42 PM

He sure sounded good tonight!

But will he deliver

Ironhorse · 07-29-2004, 10:49 PM

Was a good speech, the dems have a good shot at it, I didn't think much of Kerry initially, but tonights production was very good, actually the whole convention seemed very successful.

jeffs · 07-29-2004, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by theking
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"We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations. We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives and win the battle."

He actually stumbled there and initially said, "to conduct terrorist", but quickly corrected himself. I thought that was funny.

TheJimmy · 07-29-2004, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by jeffs
He actually stumbled there and initially said, "to conduct terrorist", but quickly corrected himself. I thought that was funny.

one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...

theking · 07-30-2004, 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by TheJimmy
one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...

I for one do not believe that al Qaeda and their affiliates are fighting for freedom.

born · 07-30-2004, 07:05 AM

Happy I missed it.....

CaroMark · 07-30-2004, 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by theking
Though his voting record somewhat belies these statements he at least is talking the talk that I approve. I will await what takes place over the next 3 months or so before I make a final decision about voting for Senator Kerry. It is still possible that...for the first time since I have been of voting age...I may abstain this next election.

It is terrible to say but I think that the vote for the lesser evil is better than no vote at all.

It amazes me how many people want to ignore his voting record and just believe that he is a new man. Although I do agree that he delivered an awesome speech I laughed at his attempts to make Republican ideas his own while at the same time not mentioning how he plans to fund all of his great programs.

Evil Chris · 07-30-2004, 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by theking
It is still possible that...for the first time since I have been of voting age...I may abstain this next election.

Abstaining is NEVER the right thing to do.

theking · 07-30-2004, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by Evil Chris
Abstaining is NEVER the right thing to do.

Care to educate me by explaining your opinion?

Evil Chris · 07-30-2004, 07:28 AM

Well what good does it do? Government actually depends on a large number of the voting population to NOT come out and vote.

Nobody cares if you do not vote. If it's like trying to make a statement or something, it has me baffled. If you can't vote FOR something, then definitely vote AGAINST something. The important thing is to cast that ballot.

theking · 07-30-2004, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by Evil Chris
Well what good does it do? Government actually depends on a large number of the voting population to NOT come out and vote.

Nobody cares if you do not vote. If it's like trying to make a statement or something, it has me baffled. If you can't vote FOR something, then definitely vote AGAINST something. The important thing is to cast that ballot.

Educate me further by explaining why you are of the opinion that "Government actually depends on a large number of the voting population to NOT come out and vote."

As for voting for or against something...if one is equally opposed to both candidates...how can one retain their own self respect by putting a stamp of approval on either of the candidates?

jimmyf · 07-30-2004, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by MMemmer

It amazes me how many people want to ignore his voting record and just believe that he is a new man. Although I do agree that he delivered an awesome speech I laughed at his attempts to make Republican ideas his own while at the same time not mentioning how he plans to fund all of his great programs.

I might add

Evil Chris · 07-30-2004, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by theking
Educate me further by explaining why you are of the opinion that "Government actually depends on a large number of the voting population to NOT come out and vote."

As for voting for or against something...if one is equally opposed to both candidates...how can one retain their own self respect by putting a stamp of approval on either of the candidates?

I'm not trying to prod you into an argument here, let me just say that, ok?

But yes I do believe that government depends somewhat on people's laziness or complacency in that they do not go out and vote. I'm not saying to put your stamp of approval on one or the other, but certainly vote against the lesser of two evils if you have to.

theking · 07-30-2004, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by Evil Chris
I'm not trying to prod you into an argument here, let me just say that, ok?

But yes I do believe that government depends somewhat on people's laziness or complacency in that they do not go out and vote. I'm not saying to put your stamp of approval on one or the other, but certainly vote against the lesser of two evils if you have to.

If over the next 3 months I conclude that there probably is a "lesser" I will vote.

Mr.Fiction · 07-30-2004, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by MMemmer

It amazes me how many people want to ignore his voting record and just believe that he is a new man. Although I do agree that he delivered an awesome speech I laughed at his attempts to make Republican ideas his own while at the same time not mentioning how he plans to fund all of his great programs.

If you support Bush, then you are ignoring his record as president. Bush has made America less safe and less economically secure as well as dividing the American people more than they have been divided in recent history.

This quote from Bush's favorite right wing Supreme Court justice talking about the online porn industry:

"this business could, consistent with the First Amendment, be banned entirely"
- Right Wing Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

Kerry will never nominate an extremist right winger to the Supreme Court, Bush will only nominate an extremist.

xclusive · 07-30-2004, 08:19 AM

Kerry did very well and I am from massachusetts and I met the guy a few times. He looks a little stiff when it comes to speaking but unlike bush he is smart and he knows about war and I know he will make a geat president that will make the whole world know that we are a superpower again and not just a Nation Run by a bunch of romper room rejects...

The Truth Hurts · 07-30-2004, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by xclusive
Kerry did very well and I am from massachusetts and I met the guy a few times. He looks a little stiff when it comes to speaking but unlike bush he is smart and he knows about war and I know he will make a geat president that will make the whole world know that we are a superpower again and not just a Nation Run by a bunch of romper room rejects...

TTH, from Holyoke says "You're an fucking tool".

Rich · 07-30-2004, 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by theking
I for one do not believe that al Qaeda and their affiliates are fighting for freedom.

Ronald Reagan did. I'd say his point stands.

Floridiot · 07-30-2004, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by Rich
Ronald Reagan did. I'd say his point stands.

thats the funniest sig i have ever seen

theking · 07-30-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Rich
Ronald Reagan did. I'd say his point stands.

Wrong. al Qaeda did not exist at that time.

theking · 07-30-2004, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
Ronald Reagan did. I'd say his point stands.

Hit and run mis-information...but you are full of mis-information...Richy boy. To bad those voices in your head are not better informed.

raymor · 07-30-2004, 02:28 PM

Sure, a nice speech. He did stay on one consistent theme
that tied the whole thing together. For example:

"Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required."
(Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against
every military expenditure and every military action.
Do not be confusd about Iraq, "I was really voting just to
THREATEN the use of force. I did not vote to use force.'

"Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. "
((Unlike what I did in the senate, where I advocated waiting
an additional 12 years, felling that 12 years wasn't long enough
to wait for Saddam to comply.)

"I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security."
(Unlike what I did in the senate, where I argued that our sovereignty
should be subject to the UN.)

"And I will build a stronger American military."
(Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against
body armor, fuel, ammo, and other necesities for our troops.)

"We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives and win the battle."
(Unlike in the Senate, where I voted to not provide ammo for the
existing weapons, much less new weapons.)

"We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations."
(Unlike what I did in the Senate ....

I'm actually suprised that he stayed consistent during the course of
a whole entire speech, he normally sways from side to side in the
course of a sentence. However, given that the one consistent point
he had was that he promises to do the exactly the opposite of
what he's always done his whole life, I'm not too sure how much stock
I'd put in those promises.

baddog · 07-30-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by jeffs
He actually stumbled there and initially said, "to conduct terrorist", but quickly corrected himself. I thought that was funny.

did he slip?

raymor · 07-30-2004, 02:31 PM

Actually though, why can't he stand up there,
admit what he really believes, what he's done in the past, and defend
his position instead of trying to convince people that he is the
opposite of who he is? Oh yeah, he can't defend any of the positions
that he has taken because they are indefensible.

NichePay_Manny · 07-30-2004, 03:41 PM

Kerry is the Man .Vote for him guys.we have a better chance to make money will he is on board.

theking · 07-30-2004, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by raymor
Sure, a nice speech. He did stay on one consistent theme
that tied the whole thing together. For example:

"Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required."
(Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against
every military expenditure and every military action.
Do not be confusd about Iraq, "I was really voting just to
THREATEN the use of force. I did not vote to use force.'

"Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. "
((Unlike what I did in the senate, where I advocated waiting
an additional 12 years, felling that 12 years wasn't long enough
to wait for Saddam to comply.)

"I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security."
(Unlike what I did in the senate, where I argued that our sovereignty
should be subject to the UN.)

"And I will build a stronger American military."
(Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against
body armor, fuel, ammo, and other necesities for our troops.)

"We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives and win the battle."
(Unlike in the Senate, where I voted to not provide ammo for the
existing weapons, much less new weapons.)

"We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations."
(Unlike what I did in the Senate ....

I'm actually suprised that he stayed consistent during the course of
a whole entire speech, he normally sways from side to side in the
course of a sentence. However, given that the one consistent point
he had was that he promises to do the exactly the opposite of
what he's always done his whole life, I'm not too sure how much stock
I'd put in those promises.

An apparent concern of mine.

07-29-2004, 10:32 PM	#1
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07-29-2004, 10:42 PM	#2
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07-29-2004, 10:49 PM	#3
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07-30-2004, 07:28 AM	#11
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,235	Well what good does it do? Government actually depends on a large number of the voting population to NOT come out and vote. Nobody cares if you do not vote. If it's like trying to make a statement or something, it has me baffled. If you can't vote FOR something, then definitely vote AGAINST something. The important thing is to cast that ballot. __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

07-30-2004, 02:28 PM	#23
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	Sure, a nice speech. He did stay on one consistent theme that tied the whole thing together. For example: "Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required." (Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against every military expenditure and every military action. Do not be confusd about Iraq, "I was really voting just to THREATEN the use of force. I did not vote to use force.' "Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. " ((Unlike what I did in the senate, where I advocated waiting an additional 12 years, felling that 12 years wasn't long enough to wait for Saddam to comply.) "I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security." (Unlike what I did in the senate, where I argued that our sovereignty should be subject to the UN.) "And I will build a stronger American military." (Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against body armor, fuel, ammo, and other necesities for our troops.) "We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives and win the battle." (Unlike in the Senate, where I voted to not provide ammo for the existing weapons, much less new weapons.) "We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations." (Unlike what I did in the Senate .... I'm actually suprised that he stayed consistent during the course of a whole entire speech, he normally sways from side to side in the course of a sentence. However, given that the one consistent point he had was that he promises to do the exactly the opposite of what he's always done his whole life, I'm not too sure how much stock I'd put in those promises. __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

07-30-2004, 07:05 AM	#7
born Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: BMore, MD Posts: 588	Happy I missed it.....

07-30-2004, 08:19 AM	#17
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	Kerry did very well and I am from massachusetts and I met the guy a few times. He looks a little stiff when it comes to speaking but unlike bush he is smart and he knows about war and I know he will make a geat president that will make the whole world know that we are a superpower again and not just a Nation Run by a bunch of romper room rejects...

07-30-2004, 02:31 PM	#25
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	Actually though, why can't he stand up there, admit what he really believes, what he's done in the past, and defend his position instead of trying to convince people that he is the opposite of who he is? Oh yeah, he can't defend any of the positions that he has taken because they are indefensible. __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

07-30-2004, 03:41 PM	#26
NichePay_Manny Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 1,833	Kerry is the Man .Vote for him guys.we have a better chance to make money will he is on board.