NATSlite and NATSplus released! As low as $150/mo! - GoFuckYourself.com

TMM_John · 07-29-2004, 08:12 AM

We are proud to announce the release of NATSlite and NATSplus. These two new products allow anyone and everyone running or looking to run an affiliate program access to the most advanced affiliate software on the market.

NATSlite and NATSplus offer all of the same features that NATS does. They are limited only in the # of sites that you may have and the number of joins that you can do per month. If you go over either of these limitations you are simply bumped up to the next level of NATS on your next invoice. There are no actual "limits" to your program, only billing tiers.

Both new products are available on a lease basis only. NATSlite is $150/month and NATSplus is $350/month. NATSlite has a maximum of 2 websites and NATSplus a maximum of 5. They have a maximum of 300 and 750 signups respectively.

More information on them can be found here: http://nats.toomuchmedia.com/requestaquote.html including a full pricing chart.

If you go over 5 websites or 750 joins/month you are upgraded to full NATS which is $650/month and the highest tier available with unlimited websites and joins.

We really feel that these new versions will allow the masses to make use of the same great software that the larger programs are all taking notice of.

If you have any quetions at all, please conact me.

John

icq: 5596373
aim: JohnA1078
phone: 732-792-0274

Juicy D. Links · 07-29-2004, 08:16 AM

Ice · 07-29-2004, 08:18 AM

Going through the site right now John..... looks solid and a much better price then the other options out there. Plus if Lensman is using it for his new program... it must be pretty damn good.

Congrats on a job well done

SABAI · 07-29-2004, 08:57 AM

great stuff ,

{fusion} · 07-29-2004, 09:00 AM

Setup & Walkthrough $1000 ?

thats a bit expensive for a tutorial.

andrej_NDC · 07-29-2004, 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by juicylinks

LOL for the sig

TMM_John · 07-29-2004, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by {fusion}
Setup & Walkthrough $1000 ?

thats a bit expensive for a tutorial.

It includes setup of all of your websites, join templates/forms etc., setup of all of your processors and a walkthrough of the entire system which takes hours and hours of our guy's time. Everyone opts for it, so it can't be so bad. It's not a system with 3 features. It's a very extensive system with a lot of features people would not even discover without the walkthrough. We want to make sure that you are confident and comfortable with it, so we offer it. It is optional tho

Basic_man · 07-29-2004, 09:11 AM

Wow nice, who's switching?

{fusion} · 07-29-2004, 09:14 AM

it does look awesome and probably the best on the market, but bunging and extra 1500.00 usd for the sake of it seems off putting, a cool flash walk through demo on the website which is free, and maybe 99 usd for install help would be tons better.

you got to think that most experianced webmasters at that stage will know how to install a php script even if its zend encoded.

im not knocking it though as it looks great.

Trax · 07-29-2004, 09:33 AM

bump for a nice piece of code

Big Cheese · 07-29-2004, 09:44 AM

Looks like great software. I think I found a solution for when I'm ready to launch.

korzon · 07-29-2004, 09:53 AM

TMM_John · 07-29-2004, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by {fusion}
it does look awesome and probably the best on the market, but bunging and extra 1500.00 usd for the sake of it seems off putting, a cool flash walk through demo on the website which is free, and maybe 99 usd for install help would be tons better.

you got to think that most experianced webmasters at that stage will know how to install a php script even if its zend encoded.

im not knocking it though as it looks great.

First, thank you, I'm glad you like it

You have to remember, it's quite a complicated system. It's easy to use and maintain once you know the system, but it's got A LOT to it. It literally takes hours upon hours to get things going, plus the time to prep the server and install everything it needs, etc. There has to be a setup/intall fee to cover our time and costs. Are these numbers the best out there? probably not. If we keep getting negative feedback on it, we may revise them, but so far no one has really had a problem with them. We'll play it by ear and see how it goes.

TMM_John · 07-29-2004, 09:57 AM

Also, there is no contract. It's on a month to month basis. We feel that the product is good enough that you will want to keep it. We don't feel the need to "lock you in" to it.

Big Cheese · 07-29-2004, 10:12 AM

How much for the CMS when it's released?

TMM_John · 07-29-2004, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Big Cheese
How much for the CMS when it's released?

$2500 outright or $150/month.
$300 Setup

SABAI · 07-29-2004, 10:25 AM

the setup fees are still a little steep IMHO, 99 would be best and you'd sell more volume and could afford to hire more tech people .

just my

TMM_John · 07-29-2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by SABAI
the setup fees are still a little steep IMHO, 99 would be best and you'd sell more volume and could afford to hire more tech people .

just my

$3 would be great too. We can't cut $1500 to $99 tho. Sorry

If someone is not going with us simply becuase of the setup fees, they'll let us know that. So far that hasn't been the case with anyone, so I doubt we'd see much of a volume increase

detoxed · 07-29-2004, 10:36 AM

lol $1500 setup isnt shit for an AFFILIATE PROGRAM. If you cant afford that you really shouldnt be opening the affiliate program in the first place.

Sly_RJ · 07-29-2004, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by {fusion}
Setup & Walkthrough $1000 ?

thats a bit expensive for a tutorial.

Software is pretty useless without knowing how it works, isn't it?

I'm looking at the $1k amount and my jaw is dropping. You have no idea how great of a price that is. Something like this would probably be an excellent (and very affordable) setup for internal paysite networks.

SABAI · 07-29-2004, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by detoxed
lol $1500 setup isnt shit for an AFFILIATE PROGRAM. If you cant afford that you really shouldnt be opening the affiliate program in the first place.

please , stop playing the big boy with heaps of 1000 bills as spare change. i have an affiliate proggie and doing very well with it , i just need to cascade processors to make it better and still think that a 500$ setup is steep .

you don't need to show off, no one cares how good you or anyone makes in the biz , what is important is how much one takes out for proggies.

TMM_John · 07-29-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by SABAI
please , stop playing the big boy with heaps of 1000 bills as spare change. i have an affiliate proggie and doing very well with it , i just need to cascade processors to make it better and still think that a 500$ setup is steep .

you don't need to show off, no one cares how good you or anyone makes in the biz , what is important is how much one takes out for proggies.

Sabai; If you're interested in NATS and the only thing holding you back is the setup fees, please, icq me.

Morgan · 07-29-2004, 10:51 AM

OCCash has the full version almost ready for beta testing

detoxed · 07-29-2004, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by SABAI
please , stop playing the big boy with heaps of 1000 bills as spare change. i have an affiliate proggie and doing very well with it , i just need to cascade processors to make it better and still think that a 500$ setup is steep .

you don't need to show off, no one cares how good you or anyone makes in the biz , what is important is how much one takes out for proggies.

I'm not showing off. I dont have an affiliate program and I havent mentioned how much money I make. I do know that $1500 setup is not much for a quality affiliate program.

SABAI · 07-29-2004, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by detoxed
I'm not showing off. I dont have an affiliate program and I havent mentioned how much money I make. I do know that $1500 setup is not much for a quality affiliate program.

1500$ is not much for an established "per signup" aafil proggie , but for the "small" players , as me its a lot , its as much as the monthly content budget .

PBucksJohn:

i will get back to you , i ve had an extensive chat with Nathan a couple months ago , about what small webmasters needed for their affiliate proggies and i guess your new offers are the result of it.

i need to check a couple things out with my partners but i will definately hit you up

Sly_RJ · 07-29-2004, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
OCCash has the full version almost ready for beta testing

I want in please. You know why.

Big Cheese · 07-29-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by detoxed
I'm not showing off. I dont have an affiliate program and I havent mentioned how much money I make. I do know that $1500 setup is not much for a quality affiliate program.

Very true. Before I knew about NATS (not too interested in the others), I was prepared to spend many thousands of dollars custom coding one. This should save a lot of time and money.
I look forward to using this in the future.

TMM_John · 07-29-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by SABAI
PBucksJohn:

i will get back to you , i ve had an extensive chat with Nathan a couple months ago , about what small webmasters needed for their affiliate proggies and i guess your new offers are the result of it.

i need to check a couple things out with my partners but i will definately hit you up

Gotcha. And yes, I'm sure your comments played into it quite a bit. I look forward to working with you.

SABAI · 07-29-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by PBucksJohn
Gotcha. And yes, I'm sure your comments played into it quite a bit. I look forward to working with you.

can you contact me by ICQ 752 51 91 ?

i will contact you about it around end of august

angeleyes · 07-29-2004, 12:25 PM

Bump for good measure!

Nathan · 07-30-2004, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by SABAI
i will get back to you , i ve had an extensive chat with Nathan a couple months ago , about what small webmasters needed for their affiliate proggies and i guess your new offers are the result of it.

Hi Sabai,

I know the offer is not EXACTLY what you would like to see, but we simply found no way to shorten the installation & setup fees, its just too many things you need to make sure that work. We feel it's better if we take care of it.

------------

Big Cheese,

if you have any questions or need any clarifications on some of our features or the like, msg John or me on ICQ or AIM.

Global Dialers · 07-30-2004, 01:29 AM

the 300 + 750 signups per month..

is that on a per site basis or in total

does it include rebills or not

Groove · 07-30-2004, 02:13 AM

This tiered pricing is a great deal. But many webmasters with new or small programs who might be interested in the low monthly fee for NATSlite or NATSPlus *WILL* balk at the $1,500 setup/walkthrough fee.

fr8 · 07-30-2004, 02:21 AM

If the priceing is set rite everytihng else should fall in place.

TMM_John · 07-30-2004, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by Global Dialers
the 300 + 750 signups per month..

is that on a per site basis or in total

does it include rebills or not

These #s are total for your program, not per site. They are initial signups or one time joins tho, rebills do not count towards the totals.

TMM_John · 07-30-2004, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by Groove
This tiered pricing is a great deal. But many webmasters with new or small programs who might be interested in the low monthly fee for NATSlite or NATSPlus *WILL* balk at the $1,500 setup/walkthrough fee.

Groove; I wish I could give you a different answer than I gave the others who said this

The fact is we have no contract, and the monthly fee is as low as $150/month. It takes us 20+ hours (real hours, not billed hours) to do the walkthrough and setup alone. We work hand in hand with you on it. The installation and configuration takes hours on top of that. We can't invest 30+ hours into something for someone who pays us $150 then bails becuase he didn't have his ducks in order or gets tired of the industry or deicdes to do something else. $150 for 30+ hours of our time is just not viable.

This is also why we split the installation/setup/walkthrough into two pieces. If a company is in a rush, they can take the walktrhough and get everything setup in ready as fast as possible. If they are not in a rush, they can take only the $500 install fee and do the setup/config themseves. We will of course help them, just not nearly as extensively as we will with the walkthrough. Also, any quetions or problems you have during the setup/config process that we help you with do not take away from your support instances if you take the setup/walkthrough by us. It really is a VALUE at $1000. It may sound like a lot of money, but once you've worked with us, or talk to those who have, you will understand it is quite a deal.

If a company/person can not afford $650 to get his affiliate program rollling with the best software out there, then he is not ready to run a solid program in my opinion.

Dax · 07-30-2004, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by PBucksJohn
Also, there is no contract. It's on a month to month basis. We feel that the product is good enough that you will want to keep it. We don't feel the need to "lock you in" to it.

Well actually.. if one is gonna pay $1500 setting up and after 2 months does not feel is good enough? What do u do? Change programs and *waste* $1500 .. doubt many ppl would do that, most ppl will wait as long as possible so that $1500 doesnt hurt too much.

I also think that is pretty steep, specially for someone who wants to start a small affiliate program...

Ice · 07-30-2004, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by Dax
Well actually.. if one is gonna pay $1500 setting up and after 2 months does not feel is good enough? What do u do? Change programs and *waste* $1500 .. doubt many ppl would do that, most ppl will wait as long as possible so that $1500 doesnt hurt too much.

I also think that is pretty steep, specially for someone who wants to start a small affiliate program...

Do you think Lensman would use it for his new program if it wasn't good enough?

I have gone through the site http://nats.toomuchmedia.com/ and have asked John alot of questions on icq. I can honestly say this is a well thought out and solid program.

As John said above people have an option to do the setup/config themselves and save 1000 bucks. So it would only be $650 to get started. This gives people the chance to use what the big boys use without the big boy cost.

TMM_John · 07-30-2004, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by Dax
Well actually.. if one is gonna pay $1500 setting up and after 2 months does not feel is good enough? What do u do? Change programs and *waste* $1500 .. doubt many ppl would do that, most ppl will wait as long as possible so that $1500 doesnt hurt too much.

I also think that is pretty steep, specially for someone who wants to start a small affiliate program...

No one has yet. I don't see anyone doing so in the future, we make sure you are happy. Again, do business with us, then say if we're worth it or not.

If you can't afford the $1500, take just the $500 install fee and take the time setting it up yourself. You're more than welcome to.

Quality, Speed, Low Price. Pick 2.

We'll get it done for you fast if you need it, but our guys need to be paid for their time. This is a business, not a hobby. Most people who exepct $99 programs to do everything in the world are in this for a hobby. We work with those who are in this as a serious business. And those who are, understand they get what they pay for.

TMM_John · 07-30-2004, 09:05 AM

Also, as we take things so seriously. If someone took the $500 install + $1k setup and were not happy with the product after two months and decided not to use it, we would gladly refund the setup & intall fees.

Again, we are confident in our product. This is why there is no contract and we are on a month to month basis.

charlieb · 08-04-2004, 02:37 PM

thanks

07-29-2004, 08:12 AM	#1
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,660	NATSlite and NATSplus released! As low as $150/mo! We are proud to announce the release of NATSlite and NATSplus. These two new products allow anyone and everyone running or looking to run an affiliate program access to the most advanced affiliate software on the market. NATSlite and NATSplus offer all of the same features that NATS does. They are limited only in the # of sites that you may have and the number of joins that you can do per month. If you go over either of these limitations you are simply bumped up to the next level of NATS on your next invoice. There are no actual "limits" to your program, only billing tiers. Both new products are available on a lease basis only. NATSlite is $150/month and NATSplus is $350/month. NATSlite has a maximum of 2 websites and NATSplus a maximum of 5. They have a maximum of 300 and 750 signups respectively. More information on them can be found here: http://nats.toomuchmedia.com/requestaquote.html including a full pricing chart. If you go over 5 websites or 750 joins/month you are upgraded to full NATS which is $650/month and the highest tier available with unlimited websites and joins. We really feel that these new versions will allow the masses to make use of the same great software that the larger programs are all taking notice of. If you have any quetions at all, please conact me. John icq: 5596373 aim: JohnA1078 phone: 732-792-0274 __________________ Skype: JohnA1078 Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

07-29-2004, 08:18 AM	#3
Ice Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny California Posts: 26,053	Going through the site right now John..... looks solid and a much better price then the other options out there. Plus if Lensman is using it for his new program... it must be pretty damn good. Congrats on a job well done __________________ icq 1904905

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TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,660	Also, there is no contract. It's on a month to month basis. We feel that the product is good enough that you will want to keep it. We don't feel the need to "lock you in" to it. __________________ Skype: JohnA1078 Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	Setup & Walkthrough $1000 ? thats a bit expensive for a tutorial.

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{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	it does look awesome and probably the best on the market, but bunging and extra 1500.00 usd for the sake of it seems off putting, a cool flash walk through demo on the website which is free, and maybe 99 usd for install help would be tons better. you got to think that most experianced webmasters at that stage will know how to install a php script even if its zend encoded. im not knocking it though as it looks great.

07-29-2004, 09:33 AM	#10
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	bump for a nice piece of code

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Big Cheese Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 473	Looks like great software. I think I found a solution for when I'm ready to launch.

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SABAI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: footmaniac.com Posts: 2,880	the setup fees are still a little steep IMHO, 99 would be best and you'd sell more volume and could afford to hire more tech people . just my __________________

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detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	lol $1500 setup isnt shit for an AFFILIATE PROGRAM. If you cant afford that you really shouldnt be opening the affiliate program in the first place.

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Groove Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,852	This tiered pricing is a great deal. But many webmasters with new or small programs who might be interested in the low monthly fee for NATSlite or NATSPlus WILL balk at the $1,500 setup/walkthrough fee.

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TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,660	Also, as we take things so seriously. If someone took the $500 install + $1k setup and were not happy with the product after two months and decided not to use it, we would gladly refund the setup & intall fees. Again, we are confident in our product. This is why there is no contract and we are on a month to month basis. __________________ Skype: JohnA1078 Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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charlieb Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: US Posts: 344	thanks