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hammer2001 07-26-2004 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
In his pocket because he is not a fool.

Production costs are nobody's business but the producer and the people he is paying.

If Paul can shoot this stuff for $10.00 and sell it for $3000.00 then more power to him.

A: You get what you pay for.

B: Unlike most of todays content providers...A few of us know how to make a profit.



This guy wants a quote?

Here's one for you.


"Go Fuck Yourself!" ~Lensman

Yea power to him, how many exclusive scenes did he sell in 2003 for what distribution company or what website exactly? How many scenes did he license for DVD use? Wanna be blinded by bullshit talk then eat the bullshit people feed you on here.

Va2k 07-26-2004 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
In his pocket because he is not a fool.

Production costs are nobody's business but the producer and the people he is paying.

If Paul can shoot this stuff for $10.00 and sell it for $3000.00 then more power to him.

A: You get what you pay for.

B: Unlike most of todays content providers...A few of us know how to make a profit.



This guy wants a quote?

Here's one for you.


"Go Fuck Yourself!" ~Lensman


:thumbsup :thumbsup

AaronM 07-26-2004 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hammer2001
Yea power to him, how many exclusive scenes did he sell in 2003 for what distribution company or what website exactly? How many scenes did he license for DVD use? Wanna be blinded by bullshit talk then eat the bullshit people feed you on here.
Who gives a rats ass what he sold?

His breakdown is dead nuts on and just because more content providers do not look at the big picture is no reason for you to accuse him of ripping people off.

An old boss of mine once told me:

"You can reach into a man's wallet and pull out every last dollar he has. If he smiles and shakes your hand at the end of the deal then you have a satisfied customer."

The only time people get ripped off in this business is when they do not get what they were promised after payment is made.

All I have shot for the past 2 years is exclusive or semi-exclusive content and I do not allow the other broke ass content providers to dictate my pricing structure.

Paul Markham 07-26-2004 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hammer2001
4k gross on a video scene you're dreaming. So why don't you produce 1000 scenes a month then, an easy $4 million a month no? You might gross 4k a scene because you manage to rip off webmasters into paying these ridiculous prices, that's all I give you.

You have zero track record in video and comparing some generic RLD DVD to yours is like a night & day difference. Yet your price is twice the production costs EA or RLD are calculating with, isn't that funny?

You don't have shit coming, the only way you can sell any exclusive video is to people who have no clue about pricing. Consider yourself lucky for every sale you make, just another webmaster ripped off...

So I have zero track record in video.

So idiot go out and invwestigate who owned Astral Blue, a video company in the UK. I was putting videos out before you were into porn.

As for what I make on porn come over and see me in Miami and I will show you what I make.

As I said I do not cost things out on production costs. I price them out on what they are worth to me, other wise I would be scrambling around begging for business at half the price.

As for shooting 1000 a month, this shows why you will never understand what I do, it takes half a day and you don't want to be shooting two of them a day. Even if you did and could find enough quality models that's still 60 a month.

You may dream on making $4,000 on a B/G scene. I don't phone around the magazines and see what they pay for first US rights alone.

Idiot. :321GFY

Paul Markham 07-26-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hammer2001
Yea power to him, how many exclusive scenes did he sell in 2003 for what distribution company or what website exactly? How many scenes did he license for DVD use? Wanna be blinded by bullshit talk then eat the bullshit people feed you on here.
The idiot popped up again.

I don't shjoot exclusive becasue when you can sell and shoot like I do a one off sale is not worth it. Look at the guys scraping around all begging for the business by under pricing each other.

Now phone Hustler and ask them what they pay for a Boy Girl set, then phone Paul Raymond or Score and ask them, then Fantasy Publications for second rights. So if you think I'm going to pick up a video camera to shoot a boy girl scene for under $4,000 you are the one on crack.

Then look at the price I charge for non exclusive off my site and think about how many times you see my content on the net, on sites owned by millionaires not fools like you going for the cheapest price.

Paul Markham 07-26-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
In his pocket because he is not a fool.

Production costs are nobody's business but the producer and the people he is paying.

If Paul can shoot this stuff for $10.00 and sell it for $3000.00 then more power to him.

A: You get what you pay for.

B: Unlike most of todays content providers...A few of us know how to make a profit.



This guy wants a quote?

Here's one for you.


"Go Fuck Yourself!" ~Lensman

Thanks Aaron, these guys still think the cheapest content is where this business is.

Paul Markham 07-26-2004 02:21 PM

hammer2001 come up and see me in Miami and I will show you some checks that will make you sob.

Assuming you can afford the bus fair. :1orglaugh

Lykos 07-26-2004 02:22 PM

Hello
If i am still not late for this thread i would like to say that i can offer u something like that for $1.300 per sceene.If u take 10 sceenes price can be $1100 each...maybe i am cheap...but again i am not gready to earn fast cash,i am more into long time relationship;)
My email is [email protected] or ICQ#295778036
Looking forward to talk with u,cheers:thumbsup

hammer2001 07-26-2004 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
hammer2001 come up and see me in Miami and I will show you some checks that will make you sob.

Assuming you can afford the bus fair. :1orglaugh

Good luck walking from booth to booth, Einstein, trying to sell your crap. 3k a scene, that's hillarious.

amacontent 07-26-2004 04:21 PM

If you take 30 - 50 scenes we will shoot each for $1800.

MaDalton 07-26-2004 04:52 PM

i'm sooo happy that I don't shoot hardcore... :glugglug

BTW: 50

RRACY 07-26-2004 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by amacontent
If you take 30 - 50 scenes we will shoot each for $1800.
You have to know this is Sobe fucking with you.

MaDalton 07-26-2004 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RRACY
You have to know this is Sobe fucking with you.
i already thought about that - any proof?

RRACY 07-26-2004 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaDalton
i already thought about that - any proof?
No proof but if you look closely the same guy posts two different nicks in the same thread.:1orglaugh

harvey 07-26-2004 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hines
I need 30-50 custom hardcore video scenes produced. Each scene is 40min-50min on video and should take 1.5-2.5 hours to shoot with all bullshit included.

Please post a breakdown of what your production/director cost is on a per scene level considering we also pay all other expenses for example:

Girl $1000
Boy $500
Location $200
Other bs (tapes, makeup, crap)
Production inc. Equipment $200

Scene cost: $1900

Please just quote me your PRODUCTION cost. Delivery RAW DV (NO EDITING NEEDED SO DON'T QUOTE)

Follow my post, post your contact info and a resonable offer and we will do business. Post bullshit, I will ignore you.

Well, we can do this from 300 to 1200 depending on models (final prices for 30 sets, might go a little lower for 50), if you're interested contact me on ICQ 104870192 or email f_devin xatx ciudad dot com dot ar :)

harvey 07-26-2004 06:08 PM

btw the gap between prices is for amateur like models against top quality babes, and then the kind of action they'll perform, since not all of them perform the same kind of action, even if hardcore (some takes facials, some swallows, some do anal, some do DP, etc)

Jim_Gunn 07-26-2004 07:10 PM

Production costs vary a bit, but I normally shoot exclusive hardcore scenes for $2000 per episode, delivered on mini-DV, with all the proper documents. I would give a 10% discount for a 30+ scene order. The most important thing of course isn't price, but trying to find a reliable content producer who has a LOT of native English speaking, attractive talent. Someone who can do a good job with the setups and the action and not drag their feet in the project. Check out my work at ExclusiveRealityContent.com

pussyluver 07-26-2004 08:55 PM

Charly,

If I ever buy video content, you'll be the first peson I contact. Ya get what ya pay for. I'm no pro on this, but I have been to more than one shoot. It is not a two hour deal from what I see. Sorry you had to take crap from some idiot.

Why doesn't he just shot the content himself if he is so smart??? Hammer left a lot out of the equation and you don't have to be a fucking genius to figure it out.

There is a reason, you have a biz with a good rep! So have a good one, not all of us are that stupid.

PL

Paul Markham 07-26-2004 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pussyluver
Charly,

If I ever buy video content, you'll be the first peson I contact. Ya get what ya pay for. I'm no pro on this, but I have been to more than one shoot. It is not a two hour deal from what I see. Sorry you had to take crap from some idiot.

Why doesn't he just shot the content himself if he is so smart??? Hammer left a lot out of the equation and you don't have to be a fucking genius to figure it out.

There is a reason, you have a biz with a good rep! So have a good one, not all of us are that stupid.

PL

Thanks, what few of the idiots realise is I was shooting porn back when they were in diapers and still selling it today. Whiler the cut price merchants disappear, we get bigger. doubt if any of them even know we employ a staff of 10 people, have a studio of 3,000 square feet and shot 3-4 days a week.

Proof is look at all those scrambling over themselves to get the business at any price.

Why doesn't he shoot it himself? Shooting hardcore porn to this level with this standard of girl is not for newbies.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/2gb.jpg

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/bj2.jpg

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/cast8.jpg

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/phone2.jpg

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/1090.jpg

Thing is the sites that can afford it know this stuff converts, purely because of the supply and demand factor. Fewer have it so selling it is easier. Nothing wrong with Amateur, Reality, POV, crap styles but they are all over the net and over supplied.

jonesy 07-26-2004 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hammer2001
3k a video scene, are you on crack? Czech pussy boy/girl $500 girl, $200 boy, where's the $2300 going?
in the guys bank account?

pussyluver 07-26-2004 11:14 PM

Great work Charly!!! Enjoyed 'em !! If you want quality......
Best advertising is your product
:thumbsup :thumbsup

pussyluver 07-26-2004 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jonesy
in the guys bank account?
I don't know why I'm responding, but....

How about quality equipment, staff, studio, legal, other overhead and yes a profit!

jonesy 07-26-2004 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
In his pocket because he is not a fool.

Production costs are nobody's business but the producer and the people he is paying.

If Paul can shoot this stuff for $10.00 and sell it for $3000.00 then more power to him.

A: You get what you pay for.

B: Unlike most of todays content providers...A few of us know how to make a profit.

:thumbsup

Peter Romero 07-26-2004 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
In his pocket because he is not a fool.

Production costs are nobody's business but the producer and the people he is paying.

If Paul can shoot this stuff for $10.00 and sell it for $3000.00 then more power to him.

A: You get what you pay for.

B: Unlike most of todays content providers...A few of us know how to make a profit.



This guy wants a quote?

Here's one for you.


"Go Fuck Yourself!" ~Lensman

I couldn't have said it better myself. Total bogus thread.

Hines 07-27-2004 02:23 AM

A lot of the people in this thread seem to have reading comprehension problems. Look, I'm not looking to pay $500 for a hardcore scene, I'm not looking for dirt cheap prices and I'm not looking for packaged prices. We shoot a shitload of content and need a new producer. I know how much a model charges, I know locations, I know quality. We shoot a lot of shit from simple scenes to orgies so don't give me a fucking $3000 standard price because I don't work like that. You don't want to quote, then move on to the next TGP-er looking for content sets thread. If you charge 3k for a bg scene, find, tell me $1200 models, 2800 in your pocket for production, I will note that down and maybe contact you, maybe not depending on how I feel that price is.

If you can't understand a simple request for a quote, how could some of you possibly understand the specs I need shit shot by :1orglaugh

I'm asking, how much will you charge to produce hardcore for me, on a per scene basis, when ordering sick amounts of scenes period. There's been maybe one guy if that that actually discussed this.

hammer2001 07-27-2004 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Thanks, what few of the idiots realise is I was shooting porn back when they were in diapers
Wait, weren't you like 75 or something? Looks like you're the one who will be in diapers again soon.

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
we employ a staff of 10 people, have a studio of 3,000 square feet and shot 3-4 days a week.
Somebody please find that thread of you begging for somebody to rent out your studio. Having a hard time utilizing the capacity?

hammer2001 07-27-2004 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pussyluver
Great work Charly!!! Enjoyed 'em !! If you want quality......
Best advertising is your product
:thumbsup :thumbsup

And how much exactly do you know about budgeting hardcore shoots?

freezex 07-27-2004 06:04 AM

Charlies content makes me think back... to the 80's

amateurczech 07-27-2004 08:00 AM

I could shoot it for $1100 per scene. Please contact me on icq 192278244 or email me at [email protected] and I will give you detailed pricing if you need it, samples of my work, references etc. How fast would you need those 30 scenes to have shot?
Please contact me and I am sure we could do business with each other :-)

amateurczech 07-27-2004 08:48 AM

I am adding breakdown:
it depends on what exactly do you need, this is breakdown for a couple b/g scenes:
girl: $400
boy: $200
location: $100-200, depends which one
other expenses (gas, tapes, etc.): $50-100
-------
ca 800-900 + my fee = $1100

[email protected]

Hines 07-28-2004 10:54 AM

bohdans: sounds reasonable

Ash@phpFX 07-28-2004 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by "The Dog"

http://www.black-dog-films.com/audrey1.jpg

gotta hate it when you lose your keys


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