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Old 07-25-2004, 07:41 PM   #1
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Methods Used in Abu Gharaib were not by accident...

These acts were spicific, and even have a dated history.

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/35/news-ireland.php

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?The black hood covering the faces of naked prisoners in Abu Ghraib was known as la capuchi in Guatemalan and Salvadoran torture chambers. The metal bed frame to which the naked and hooded detainee was bound in a crucifix position in Abu Ghraib was la cama, named for a former Chilean prisoner who survived the U.S.-installed regime of General Augusto Pinochet. In her case, electrodes were attached to her arms, legs and genitalia, just as they were attached to the Iraqi detainee poised on a box, threatened with electrocution if he fell off. The Iraqi man bound naked on the ground with a leash attached to his neck, held by a smiling young American recruit, reminds me of the son of peasant organizers who recounted his agonizing torture at the hands of the Tonton Macoutes, U.S.-backed dictator John-Claude (Baby Doc) Duvalier?s right-hand thugs, in Port-au-Prince in 1984. The very act of photographing those tortured in Abu Ghraib to humiliate and silence parallels the experience of an American missionary, Sister Diana Ortiz,? who was tortured and gang-raped repeatedly under supervision by an American in 1989, according to her testimony before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus.

is there a copy of this torture book on ebay anywherE?
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Old 07-25-2004, 07:47 PM   #2
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I thought they had that unblemished 4 star general getto the bottom of where the buck stopped on that one and he said there was no systematic plan in place to torture prisoners. Ya right. Obvious COVERUP. Imagine what they are doing to those at Guantanamo.
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who cares, I can think of a ton of Americans that should be tortured
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Old 07-25-2004, 07:52 PM   #4
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who cares, I can think of a ton of Americans that should be tortured
when we are told its not systematic and I dig into the history of this, it is not only systematyic, it is BEING TAUGHT, there is something wrong.

You look the other way, I like to actually be caught up on things.

I love reading and digging into the history of the US like this.

i guess i read too much hahaha if there is such a thing.

some people like strip clubs, I like THE TRUTH
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Old 07-25-2004, 07:55 PM   #5
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It's FM 34-52

Let me see if I can find a copy on the Net.
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Here you go

FM 34-52 INTELLIGENCE INTERROGATION

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell...m34-52/toc.htm

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Old 07-25-2004, 08:03 PM   #9
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Here you go

FM 34-52 INTELLIGENCE INTERROGATION

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell...m34-52/toc.htm

if the feds ever come in here.

they will surely consider me a tthreat to US security

hahaha

like Sherman Austin, i have info the US military itself puts out saved on my computer.

ooooh look out, now i have the torture document, right along side Che geveras, Guerilla Warfare pdf.

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Old 07-25-2004, 08:09 PM   #10
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Another interesting read is the CIA's KUBARK Manual from the Vietnam war.

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0397/kubark06.htm
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Old 07-25-2004, 08:12 PM   #11
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Check out this Fletch.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB127/index.htm

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Check out this Fletch.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB127/index.htm

i like.

the only legible thing Rummy wrote was the question mark, almost to INSIST, hey "its only a question, i didnt give an order!"

i read this stuff like it was a new bible to a christian
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This is the other one. Its the 1983 CIA Human Resource Exploiatation Manual. Its in 2 parts in PDF format.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/...t%20A1-G11.pdf

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/...t%20H0-L17.pdf

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i prefer pdf, easier to save to desktop, read later.

pdf is the way to trade info, especially full manuals and books
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here KRl.

i know you dont like pdfs much, but there is sooooo much online.

http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/subjects.html

good page:

http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu...ubjectstart?HX
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when we are told its not systematic and I dig into the history of this, it is not only systematyic, it is BEING TAUGHT, there is something wrong.

You look the other way, I like to actually be caught up on things.

I love reading and digging into the history of the US like this.

i guess i read too much hahaha if there is such a thing.

some people like strip clubs, I like THE TRUTH
The average US citizen doesnt need to and shouldnt know the truth. Most people arent smart enough to handle it. Not talking about you
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i prefer pdf, easier to save to desktop, read later.

pdf is the way to trade info, especially full manuals and books
But like the saying goes . . .

"Be careful what you seek, you might not like what you find."

Since you are a research hound like I am, I'm sure you've come across some stuff that literally is beyond mind blowing about our government, like I have. Scary, very scary.
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Need info on Chemical Technology?

http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu...ubjectstart?TP

hahaha

any terrorist could learn all they need online.

the anarchist cookbook is a joke compared to what the military releases so america can say "we have the baddest military ever"

i think if the military kept its mouth shut less people would fuck with us.

the quiet ones are more deadly
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Sadly you are absolutely right detoxed. If eveyone knew what really goes on in our government, there would be another revolutionary war.

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Sadly you are absolutely right detoxed. If eveyone knew what really goes on in our government, there would be another revolutionary war.

amazing, you basically quoted the brother of a US bomber, from the movie Bowling For Columbine.

He says the same thing.

"if people in america knew, they would REVOLT."

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But like the saying goes . . .

"Be careful what you seek, you might not like what you find."

Since you are a research hound like I am, I'm sure you've come across some stuff that literally is beyond mind blowing about our government, like I have. Scary, very scary.
some people surf the Hun.

here is one of my best bookmarks.

NEW LISTINGS for the online library.

I check this page out and can ALWAYS download something new to read.

way mroe interesting than Danielle Steele.

http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/new.html
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