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View Poll Results: What do you use to enhance your coding experience?
AdoDB - Database Abstraction Layer Class 1 10.00%
Smarty - Templating engine 2 20.00%
Zend ZPS - Enhances speed 6 60.00%
Other (name in thread) 4 40.00%
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Old 07-24-2004, 06:03 PM   #1
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PHP users: What do you use to enhance your coding?

If you're not using any of the above, you'll regret it one day

If you're using anything else noteworthy, mention it here.
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Old 07-24-2004, 06:05 PM   #2
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ive seen zend used alot
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Old 07-24-2004, 06:09 PM   #3
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ive seen zend used alot
We use it and it's cool. We can't take advantage of their caching though (too much dynamic content), but the accelerator does speed things up a bit.

I really love using AdoDB and Smarty though. It enables me to make the following things a breeeeeze:

- multilingual support
- browser/resolution support
- 'skin'able sites
- changing design
- migrating to a new database type

Not to mention, that 0 of my pages contain even a tiny bit of HTML code in them. Most of my pages of code are now less than 100-200 lines
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Old 07-24-2004, 06:17 PM   #4
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i use Zend Studio.. great editor
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Old 07-24-2004, 06:34 PM   #5
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i use Zend Studio.. great editor
I used to use Notepad but few years ago switched to just using Pico directly on the servers. Never was one for editors ;p
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Old 07-24-2004, 06:52 PM   #6
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I used to use Notepad but few years ago switched to just using Pico directly on the servers. Never was one for editors ;p
I can't live without syntax highlighting.. not to mention auto-indentation is very helpful.. auto complete also saves tons of time so you dont have keep looking up function syntax from the manual..
Zend Studio also checks for syntax errors on the fly.. we always make typos, and get some parse (or syntax) errors when we run something the first time..
plus it has debugging features which helps you trace your program in case you are getting some unexpected results..


i think the IDE is way more important than the tools you have mentioned.
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Old 07-24-2004, 07:16 PM   #7
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I can't live without syntax highlighting.. not to mention auto-indentation is very helpful.. auto complete also saves tons of time so you dont have keep looking up function syntax from the manual..
Zend Studio also checks for syntax errors on the fly.. we always make typos, and get some parse (or syntax) errors when we run something the first time..
plus it has debugging features which helps you trace your program in case you are getting some unexpected results..


i think the IDE is way more important than the tools you have mentioned.
Well for me, it is a pain to SCP the file to my gateway server, then to the proper server, then copy it in the right place.

With Pico, I change something, save it, refresh in browser. Repeat until the bugs / parse errors are out, then just copy it to real server (from demo server I work on).

MUCH quicker for me. Also, I can interact with data in demo database and AdoDB has a simple debug true/false that lets you see all queries and their errors or transaction status.
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Old 07-24-2004, 07:26 PM   #8
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I use Zend, and it's been great so far.
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Old 09-15-2004, 11:35 AM   #9
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I can't live without syntax highlighting.. not to mention auto-indentation is very helpful.. auto complete also saves tons of time so you dont have keep looking up function syntax from the manual..
Zend Studio also checks for syntax errors on the fly.. we always make typos, and get some parse (or syntax) errors when we run something the first time..
plus it has debugging features which helps you trace your program in case you are getting some unexpected results..


i think the IDE is way more important than the tools you have mentioned.
That's the great thing about zend studio, I like how it shows where a if,while,for, foreach type statements end & starts!

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Old 09-15-2004, 11:59 AM   #10
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damn.. i'm out of the loop.. but yet i created my own template system like smarty years ago and update it along the way..

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Old 09-15-2004, 12:02 PM   #11
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I'm a big fan of smarty, and our homebrew class library
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Old 09-15-2004, 12:51 PM   #12
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ssh to the box, checkout of cvs, edit w/vi and commit changes.
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Old 09-15-2004, 12:52 PM   #13
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Smarty - Templating engine
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Old 09-15-2004, 12:57 PM   #14
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ive seen zend used alot
yeah, it looks good
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Old 09-15-2004, 12:59 PM   #15
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Wow thought this thread was dead andburied a long time ago

For those using Smarty, I recently came across a caching problem it seems to have.

if I have two dirs of templates, let's say:

/templates/en/index.tpl
/templates/sp/index.tpl

and my page loads the index.tpl based on user's language (en of sp), I keep getting the same one.

If i del the tmp files in /templates_c/ it works fine until it gets in there again.

I've solved this problem by losing my directories and using en_index.tpl and sp_index.tpl so they are nto the same template name, but does anyone know a solution to use my original sub-folder method ??
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Old 09-15-2004, 03:47 PM   #16
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I'm pretty sure that Smarty makes baby jeebus cry.

If I never have to see another Smarty template again, it'll be way too fucking soon.
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Old 09-15-2004, 05:30 PM   #17
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You can setup your own pseudo templating engine if you setup an MVC style system. Ive done it for a1-escort.com. Its all php with the templates seperated from the controllers/object models.

You still get php in your code but its pretty much limited to control structures and loops.
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Old 09-15-2004, 05:42 PM   #18
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:19 PM   #19
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My PHP scripts are still slightly above the "Hello World!" level... but I'm a junkie for good software, so I picked up a copy of Zend Studio last night after reading this post. And I must say... WOW!

I would suggest anybody that's into PHP scripting, or has a desire to learn should really check out this program. It's not cheap by any means, but I could definitely see it cutting development time by a major percentage.

Here's a good resource for even more PHP editors: http://www.php-editors.com/review/
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Old 09-17-2004, 12:17 AM   #20
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Old 09-17-2004, 12:36 AM   #21
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Old 09-17-2004, 03:48 AM   #23
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jdit does me just fine. And it is open source!

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Old 09-17-2004, 03:58 AM   #24
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jedit / Bluefish / VI as editors.
Turck MM Cache for caching (http://turck-mmcache.sourceforge.net/index_old.html)
The PHP API is awesome.
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