google adwords and ppc masters - GoFuckYourself.com

aaron · 07-22-2004, 08:33 PM

ok first question: on google adwords ive had my link put on hold or wahtever before because they say i have to somehow specify im linking directly to a sponsor but im not sure how im supposed to show this because they didnt respond my emails when i asked. is it better to link to a FPA anyway?

2nd question: how the fuck do you make money?? ive broken even but never been able to find anything that will convert well enough to make an acceptable profit? have i simply given up too soon or is it not possible unless you actually own the site and/or are getting recurring dollars on the signups?

aaron · 07-22-2004, 08:41 PM

aaron · 07-22-2004, 08:46 PM

not even a sarcastic or useless post in response? damn people must steer clear of my threads

mal · 07-22-2004, 08:48 PM

Pornwolf · 07-22-2004, 08:48 PM

Yes, send it directly to a fpa or at least some kind of page you control.

You can make money but as an affilliate but you need higher payouts minus the shave. Revshare isnt really the best thing for PPC campaigns.

I'm not just saying this because they are in my sig but TCG is a pretty good choice. Non adult sales do well too like pills and things.

aaron · 07-22-2004, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Yes, send it directly to a fpa or at least some kind of page you control.

You can make money but as an affilliate but you need higher payouts minus the shave. Revshare isnt really the best thing for PPC campaigns.

I'm not just saying this because they are in my sig but TCG is a pretty good choice. Non adult sales do well too like pills and things.

thanks for the response , could we talk on icq or something?

aaron · 07-22-2004, 09:14 PM

iguess all i can do is keep trying, anyone else have any feedback or experiences to share?

WiredGuy · 07-22-2004, 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by aaron
ok first question: on google adwords ive had my link put on hold or wahtever before because they say i have to somehow specify im linking directly to a sponsor but im not sure how im supposed to show this because they didnt respond my emails when i asked. is it better to link to a FPA anyway?

2nd question: how the fuck do you make money?? ive broken even but never been able to find anything that will convert well enough to make an acceptable profit? have i simply given up too soon or is it not possible unless you actually own the site and/or are getting recurring dollars on the signups?

1) The main issue Google has is that you cannot have consoles, so make sure you link to your FPA or a console free tour.

2) Keep at it and you'll get the hang of making a profit. It's not easy but definitely possible.

WG

Theo · 07-22-2004, 09:24 PM

for adult keywords the bids are very high now due to the increased competition and they'll keep increasing. I can tell you from first hand I know major sponsor owners that barely bring profit on their own campaigns. When you see webmasters talking about 200-300% ROI they talk about spending $20/day and taking back $40-50. Try to spend few hundred/day and you'll see the whole picture.

aaron · 07-22-2004, 09:36 PM

thanks guys

Big Fish 47 · 07-22-2004, 09:37 PM

I've recently started using Google PPC too. We'll see how it goes.

Zprogramz · 07-22-2004, 10:00 PM

Adwords is tough and requires alot of attention to make sure you are getting proper conversions. You can blow through alot of money very quickly.

Z

WiredGuy · 07-22-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Zprogramz
Adwords is tough and requires alot of attention to make sure you are getting proper conversions. You can blow through alot of money very quickly.

Z

Try Overture, Adwords is a walk in the park by comparison

WG

aaron · 07-23-2004, 02:32 AM

are you guys referring only to porn or both mainstream and porn is it as hard with mainstream? also bump for new crowd.

ClamSmacker · 07-23-2004, 02:48 AM

Hi All
Simply put 'aff' (affiliate for short) at the end of your ad description and then it will reactivate and all should be sweet

aaron · 07-23-2004, 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by ClamSmacker
Hi All
Simply put 'aff' (affiliate for short) at the end of your ad description and then it will reactivate and all should be sweet

cool do you have luck makin $ with adwords? what do you promote ? porn or mainstream shit?

ClamSmacker · 07-23-2004, 05:44 AM

I have 5 campaigns in all kinds of streams and I always keep my nose in front!

The trick is to find an untargetted market where the Cost per Click is low and clickthroughs are reasonable, hence maintaining a good Clickthrough % and affiliating yourself with good products that give you a good return.

My tip for you is "Think Outside The BOX"

zdwebber · 07-23-2004, 05:46 AM

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Originally posted by aaron
not even a sarcastic or useless post in response? damn people must steer clear of my threads

People steer clear of anything business related on GFY

80smetal · 07-23-2004, 05:54 AM

mainstream products, not pills and shit are really easy to make a profit on adwords. I promote a service for siteowners on adwords and my daily budget is 10 bucks and I can easily make 100 off that a day. Like a walk in the park

johnbosh · 07-23-2004, 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by mal

hha that made my day

polish_aristocrat · 07-23-2004, 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
for adult keywords the bids are very high now due to the increased competition and they'll keep increasing. I can tell you from first hand I know major sponsor owners that barely bring profit on their own campaigns. When you see webmasters talking about 200-300% ROI they talk about spending $20/day and taking back $40-50. Try to spend few hundred/day and you'll see the whole picture.

so how can you compete agianst those paysite owners if you are an affiliate?
If they barely bring profit, then you must be a genius to make bling with it

Basic_man · 07-23-2004, 05:58 AM

I don't think it's a good idea to link directly to sponsor..

NoCarrier · 07-23-2004, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by 80smetal
mainstream products, not pills and shit are really easy to make a profit on adwords. I promote a service for siteowners on adwords and my daily budget is 10 bucks and I can easily make 100 off that a day. Like a walk in the park

Yeah right..

What product?

80smetal · 07-23-2004, 06:03 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier
Yeah right..

What product?

my own service. I should of said I am not an affiliate.

07-22-2004, 08:33 PM	#1
aaron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 4,452	google adwords and ppc masters ok first question: on google adwords ive had my link put on hold or wahtever before because they say i have to somehow specify im linking directly to a sponsor but im not sure how im supposed to show this because they didnt respond my emails when i asked. is it better to link to a FPA anyway? 2nd question: how the fuck do you make money?? ive broken even but never been able to find anything that will convert well enough to make an acceptable profit? have i simply given up too soon or is it not possible unless you actually own the site and/or are getting recurring dollars on the signups?

07-22-2004, 08:46 PM	#3
aaron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 4,452	not even a sarcastic or useless post in response? damn people must steer clear of my threads Last edited by aaron; 07-22-2004 at 08:48 PM..

07-22-2004, 08:48 PM	#5
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Yes, send it directly to a fpa or at least some kind of page you control. You can make money but as an affilliate but you need higher payouts minus the shave. Revshare isnt really the best thing for PPC campaigns. I'm not just saying this because they are in my sig but TCG is a pretty good choice. Non adult sales do well too like pills and things. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

07-22-2004, 09:37 PM	#11
Big Fish 47 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 1,035	I've recently started using Google PPC too. We'll see how it goes. __________________

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Basic_man Programming King Pin Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 27,360	I don't think it's a good idea to link directly to sponsor.. __________________ UUGallery Builder - automated photo/video gallery plugin for Wordpress! Stop looking! Checkout Naked Hosting, online since 1999 !

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aaron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 4,452	bump

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07-22-2004, 09:14 PM	#7
aaron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 4,452	iguess all i can do is keep trying, anyone else have any feedback or experiences to share?

07-22-2004, 09:24 PM	#9
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	for adult keywords the bids are very high now due to the increased competition and they'll keep increasing. I can tell you from first hand I know major sponsor owners that barely bring profit on their own campaigns. When you see webmasters talking about 200-300% ROI they talk about spending $20/day and taking back $40-50. Try to spend few hundred/day and you'll see the whole picture.

07-22-2004, 09:36 PM	#10
aaron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 4,452	thanks guys

07-22-2004, 10:00 PM	#12
Zprogramz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,360	Adwords is tough and requires alot of attention to make sure you are getting proper conversions. You can blow through alot of money very quickly. Z

07-23-2004, 02:32 AM	#14
aaron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 4,452	are you guys referring only to porn or both mainstream and porn is it as hard with mainstream? also bump for new crowd.

07-23-2004, 02:48 AM	#15
ClamSmacker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oztralia Posts: 677	Hi All Simply put 'aff' (affiliate for short) at the end of your ad description and then it will reactivate and all should be sweet

07-23-2004, 05:44 AM	#17
ClamSmacker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oztralia Posts: 677	I have 5 campaigns in all kinds of streams and I always keep my nose in front! The trick is to find an untargetted market where the Cost per Click is low and clickthroughs are reasonable, hence maintaining a good Clickthrough % and affiliating yourself with good products that give you a good return. My tip for you is "Think Outside The BOX"

07-23-2004, 05:54 AM	#19
80smetal Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 505	mainstream products, not pills and shit are really easy to make a profit on adwords. I promote a service for siteowners on adwords and my daily budget is 10 bucks and I can easily make 100 off that a day. Like a walk in the park