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Global Dialers · 07-25-2004, 12:51 AM

how many more threads before this law does get passed will be started about it

oh and yes it will get passed because they sneakily added it in with a pile of stuff about protecting children from abuse online

GatorB · 07-25-2004, 12:56 AM

There's nothing to pass. Congress already gave Ashhahahahaha the right to change the rules as he sees fit. Only hope is that SOMEONE who has big $ sues and as we all know with COPA this new rule may take YEARS to run it' course through the courts.

Maybe I should ask Yahoo how they plan to get all that 2257 info on all the images they have on their adult groups.

Paul Markham · 07-25-2004, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by GatorB

Maybe I should ask Yahoo how they plan to get all that 2257 info on all the images they have on their adult groups.

I think you might just find it change to a link, no one needs anything unless they actually host/post porn. IMO.

Lycanthrope · 07-25-2004, 01:04 AM

I believe Yahoo will be safe with their Groups as it is technically a hosting service. Group "owners" will be responsible for their own content, just like your hosting provider is not responsible for what you publish on your sites. Hell, if they were responsible, god knows how many lawsuits they would be subject to now w/ all the stolen and otherwise illegal content they have.

Global Dialers · 07-25-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I believe Yahoo will be safe with their Groups as it is technically a hosting service. Group "owners" will be responsible for their own content, just like your hosting provider is not responsible for what you publish on your sites. Hell, if they were responsible, god knows how many lawsuits they would be subject to now w/ all the stolen and otherwise illegal content they have.

basschick · 07-25-2004, 01:10 AM

GatorB - unlike copa, this does not challenge freedom of speech. that is the grounds that copa keeps being struck down on.

Lycanthrope · 07-25-2004, 01:11 AM

Why is that funny?

Global Dialers · 07-25-2004, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Why is that funny?

do you own a hosting company or have you ever worked for one?

if you had / did you would realize the amount of additional corporate liability insurance they have to receive because of EXACTLY the thing you posted about.

they are JUST as liable as the webmaster in the courts eyes

GatorB · 07-25-2004, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I believe Yahoo will be safe with their Groups as it is technically a hosting service. Group "owners" will be responsible for their own content, just like your hosting provider is not responsible for what you publish on your sites. Hell, if they were responsible, god knows how many lawsuits they would be subject to now w/ all the stolen and otherwise illegal content they have.

You actually think Ashhahahahaha will see it that way? Besides my hosting service name is not plastered on my website. Yahoo Groups are called YAHOO GROUPS. As in groups own and run by YAHOO. Ashhahahahaha will want to go after a big name, he's not going to go after 50,000 small group owners. Are group owners going to comply? You watch, if Bush gets elected hosting companies and ISPs will be next. They'll make is porn WON'T be accessable in the US.

Lycanthrope · 07-25-2004, 01:23 AM

Well, you can speculate what will happen down the line all you want... but don't be overly paranoid, it is pretty clear that they aren't planning on holding the hosts directly responsible:

(4) Producer does not include persons whose activities relating to the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit
conduct are limited to the following:
(i) Photo processing;
(ii) Mere distribution;
(iii) Any activity, other than those activities identified in paragraphs (c)(1) and (2) of this section, that does not
involve the hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the depicted performers;
(iv) A provider of Web-hosting services who does not manage the content of the computer site or service; or
(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not manage the content of the computer site or service.

Dpope · 07-25-2004, 02:24 AM

Lycanthrope

I am glad at least one person doesn't have their head up their ass and knows how to interpret what they read.

Man, there are a bunch of idiots on this board.

If you follow the leader, and the leader is stupid, what does that make you?

Here... let be sit down while you bash me

GatorB · 07-25-2004, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by Dpope
Lycanthrope

I am glad at least one person doesn't have their head up their ass and knows how to interpret what they read.

Man, there are a bunch of idiots on this board.

If you follow the leader, and the leader is stupid, what does that make you?

Here... let be sit down while you bash me

My aren't we full of ourselves.

As to the other poster. I'm talking about what may come down the pike. These new 2257 rules never existed 4 years ago what NEW rules will exist in another 4 years? Hosting companies are not responible NOW what assurance can you give me Ashahahahaha WON'T make them in the future? We are talking about a guy who covered a statue ourside his own office building because it has an exposed breast.

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Lycanthrope Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,517	I believe Yahoo will be safe with their Groups as it is technically a hosting service. Group "owners" will be responsible for their own content, just like your hosting provider is not responsible for what you publish on your sites. Hell, if they were responsible, god knows how many lawsuits they would be subject to now w/ all the stolen and otherwise illegal content they have. __________________

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basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	GatorB - unlike copa, this does not challenge freedom of speech. that is the grounds that copa keeps being struck down on. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

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Lycanthrope Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,517	Why is that funny? __________________

07-25-2004, 01:23 AM	#10
Lycanthrope Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,517	Well, you can speculate what will happen down the line all you want... but don't be overly paranoid, it is pretty clear that they aren't planning on holding the hosts directly responsible: (4) Producer does not include persons whose activities relating to the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are limited to the following: (i) Photo processing; (ii) Mere distribution; (iii) Any activity, other than those activities identified in paragraphs (c)(1) and (2) of this section, that does not involve the hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the depicted performers; (iv) A provider of Web-hosting services who does not manage the content of the computer site or service; or (v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not manage the content of the computer site or service. __________________

07-25-2004, 12:56 AM	#2
GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	There's nothing to pass. Congress already gave Ashhahahahaha the right to change the rules as he sees fit. Only hope is that SOMEONE who has big $ sues and as we all know with COPA this new rule may take YEARS to run it' course through the courts. Maybe I should ask Yahoo how they plan to get all that 2257 info on all the images they have on their adult groups.

07-25-2004, 02:24 AM	#11
Dpope Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 33	Lycanthrope I am glad at least one person doesn't have their head up their ass and knows how to interpret what they read. Man, there are a bunch of idiots on this board. If you follow the leader, and the leader is stupid, what does that make you? Here... let be sit down while you bash me