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Unriz3n · 04-20-2001, 10:35 PM

Ok, I'm running a site (my first) at http://www.adultclips.net/ and I have tried many different layouts and designs (spamming my sponsors and traffic trades all over my pages)and after reading a post by the Hun and a few others I changed it to what it is now. I want to say this Being Honest = Being Broke. Using the design I'm using now I have generated less than half of what money I did when I used blind images and text. Not to mention my traffic has suffered as well...So my question to you "Starting out..is it better to be honest and stay that way or to bend the rules a little and just try to make enough to cover your BW bills?"

SNOW · 04-20-2001, 10:41 PM

Hi nice to meet you..I praise your honesty..I lloked at your site and you need to juice it up..

Give it some color or animation..

pimp · 04-20-2001, 10:43 PM

Fuck that, blind link those cock-sucking bandwidth leeching surfers. Piss em off til they cant help but leave your site, or pull out that cc and buy, buy, buy!

Unriz3n · 04-20-2001, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by SNOW:
Hi nice to meet you..I praise your honesty..I lloked at your site and you need to juice it up..

Give it some color or animation..

Snow, can you give me an example URL? I've heard alot about simplicity = cash. Which is what I tried to achieve what the lastest layout of my site.

SNOW · 04-20-2001, 11:03 PM

http://www.sexninja.com/main.htm

Unriz3n · 04-20-2001, 11:12 PM

Snow, with all those popups etc..where the hell do you get listed at for traffic?

SNOW · 04-20-2001, 11:20 PM

I was just showing colors and animation... Its a cj site

Jamdin · 04-20-2001, 11:31 PM

It just takes longer for honesty to pay off.

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Unriz3n · 04-20-2001, 11:37 PM

To be honest I'm looking to make some cash...paying for my bandwidth is expensive and the majority of it is out of my pocket...I want $$$...suggestions?

Susan · 04-20-2001, 11:42 PM

Unriz3n I will be honest with you

Firstly, if bandwidth cost is overpowering your revenue then pull in some good freehosting to support you while the slow building process takes place. Maybe get another domain name give it to smutserver and link off your main site, you can also cross link it all with door pages etc and start a good SE campaign.

Your site does not give any feeling to make a guy horny, its like one of those info pages returned at a portal site.

You dont have to make a multi pop up jerk off site to get visitors in the mood just take a look aroung at some of the experienced pages at this board and you will soon find good ideas.

If you icq me I will show you my first ARS promo pages that use all of their niches. My new one which is converting well has changed to include lots more little traps but the old one gives an idea of busy porn. Sorry I won't share the new one.

Someone here recently called page design psychology a bag of crap - well I can tell you first hand its not.

[This message has been edited by Susan (edited 04-20-2001).]

Unriz3n · 04-20-2001, 11:51 PM

I'm half tempted to take the sites 10k a day and chunk the whole damned thing and try another "type" of site. And btw...i believe that page design is number 1 when it comes to peddling porn. (hence my design change so much)

[This message has been edited by Unriz3n (edited 04-20-2001).]

kush · 04-21-2001, 09:33 AM

Out of everything that I've learned so far the ONE thing that is most important is that being honest is the BEST way to go. In the short run it may not seem this way, however, it tends to increase conversions over time, increase TRAFFIC over time, and most importantly increase revenue over time. (not to mention the fact that it also helps you establish a good reputation among other webmasters).

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Warphead · 04-21-2001, 06:34 PM

Being honest takes longer than being sneaky, Un... you can't expect everyone to just know you're honest the first day.

Unriz3n · 04-21-2001, 11:33 PM

When I said "being honest" I mean honest as in no blind links, popups, exits, blind images, redirects, etc etc etc.

dropped9 · 04-22-2001, 12:12 AM

You can still be honest when submitting galleries and generating traffic. Just link to your blind link/non surfer friendly pages from your honest ones... its all about filtering baby!

04-20-2001, 10:35 PM	#1
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	Being Honest = Being Broke Ok, I'm running a site (my first) at http://www.adultclips.net/ and I have tried many different layouts and designs (spamming my sponsors and traffic trades all over my pages)and after reading a post by the Hun and a few others I changed it to what it is now. I want to say this Being Honest = Being Broke. Using the design I'm using now I have generated less than half of what money I did when I used blind images and text. Not to mention my traffic has suffered as well...So my question to you "Starting out..is it better to be honest and stay that way or to bend the rules a little and just try to make enough to cover your BW bills?"

04-20-2001, 10:41 PM	#2
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	Hi nice to meet you..I praise your honesty..I lloked at your site and you need to juice it up.. Give it some color or animation..

04-20-2001, 10:43 PM	#3
pimp Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Iwakuni, Japan - Yuma, Az Posts: 200	Fuck that, blind link those cock-sucking bandwidth leeching surfers. Piss em off til they cant help but leave your site, or pull out that cc and buy, buy, buy!

04-20-2001, 11:03 PM	#5
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	http://www.sexninja.com/main.htm

04-20-2001, 11:12 PM	#6
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	Snow, with all those popups etc..where the hell do you get listed at for traffic?

04-20-2001, 11:20 PM	#7
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	I was just showing colors and animation... Its a cj site

04-20-2001, 11:31 PM	#8
Jamdin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,560	It just takes longer for honesty to pay off. ------------------ Moongem Erotica Moongem Fiction

04-20-2001, 11:37 PM	#9
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	To be honest I'm looking to make some cash...paying for my bandwidth is expensive and the majority of it is out of my pocket...I want $$$...suggestions?

04-20-2001, 11:42 PM	#10
Susan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Amost UK central Posts: 772	Unriz3n I will be honest with you Firstly, if bandwidth cost is overpowering your revenue then pull in some good freehosting to support you while the slow building process takes place. Maybe get another domain name give it to smutserver and link off your main site, you can also cross link it all with door pages etc and start a good SE campaign. Your site does not give any feeling to make a guy horny, its like one of those info pages returned at a portal site. You dont have to make a multi pop up jerk off site to get visitors in the mood just take a look aroung at some of the experienced pages at this board and you will soon find good ideas. If you icq me I will show you my first ARS promo pages that use all of their niches. My new one which is converting well has changed to include lots more little traps but the old one gives an idea of busy porn. Sorry I won't share the new one. Someone here recently called page design psychology a bag of crap - well I can tell you first hand its not. [This message has been edited by Susan (edited 04-20-2001).]

04-20-2001, 11:51 PM	#11
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	I'm half tempted to take the sites 10k a day and chunk the whole damned thing and try another "type" of site. And btw...i believe that page design is number 1 when it comes to peddling porn. (hence my design change so much) [This message has been edited by Unriz3n (edited 04-20-2001).]

04-21-2001, 09:33 AM	#12
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	Out of everything that I've learned so far the ONE thing that is most important is that being honest is the BEST way to go. In the short run it may not seem this way, however, it tends to increase conversions over time, increase TRAFFIC over time, and most importantly increase revenue over time. (not to mention the fact that it also helps you establish a good reputation among other webmasters). ------------------ Adult Revenue Service- with Maxcash I converted 0:2800 (i know, pathetic) but with ARS I convert 1:300 or better with SAME TRAFFIC (I can prove with screen shots)! Join with this link and email me if you'd like help/info

04-21-2001, 06:34 PM	#13
Warphead Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kiss my yankee dick. Posts: 994	Being honest takes longer than being sneaky, Un... you can't expect everyone to just know you're honest the first day.

04-21-2001, 11:33 PM	#14
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	When I said "being honest" I mean honest as in no blind links, popups, exits, blind images, redirects, etc etc etc.

04-22-2001, 12:12 AM	#15
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	You can still be honest when submitting galleries and generating traffic. Just link to your blind link/non surfer friendly pages from your honest ones... its all about filtering baby!