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Old 07-19-2004, 10:37 AM   #101
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Old 07-19-2004, 10:57 AM   #102
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Yes, the Hawgs do operate a solid "webmaster" program. But this thread was never about the webmaster. This is about the fair treatment of the consumer.

nuff said...
Because as a surfer, that's all 49thParallel cares about,
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Old 07-19-2004, 11:05 AM   #103
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I was going to chime in.. but SAK is doing just fine... ...


FYI... higher credits can come from aggressive billing.. the majority of high chargebacks come from bad resellsers.... manage the webmasters sending you traffic.. and cbs are really not a problem...

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Old 07-19-2004, 11:09 AM   #104
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More you push those programs heavy the regulations and more problems we will get. Its so fucking clear.

All this "business" built on new customers caz there are still many of them everyday .. But why dont you give the chance to consumer maybe he likes the product and the service with the original price and will buy in other shop again ?... People buy less caz they get shitty product for tripled price ...
And after all from a simple calculation your traffic is scammed , you get a small % from it and you say wow what a great ratio when its really not that great at all!

Adult entertainment doesnt mean scam!
Its our business!
Its all an impulse buy and why should a surfer stay a member with all the free shit out on the net.
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Old 07-19-2004, 11:15 AM   #105
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Its all an impulse buy and why should a surfer stay a member with all the free shit out on the net.
Hmm thats retarded to say the least here some rebill stats, rebill months are on the far right 15 bucks per month you do the math







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Old 07-19-2004, 12:49 PM   #106
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S.A.K and crew are good people ...

For the bashers


This is business and everyone is out to make money ..after all isnt that why we are in business..?

I for one stand behing APC and crew ..they have been great to us at illcash.com and we will continue to do business together...

As for the xsells situation

When you go to best buy and buy a printer ..do they sell the cable with it ....or upsell it to you when you check out.. ?

If its porn or buying printers ....or anything else there is always an upsell offered to you ..

Even when you go to a place to eat and you ask for water ...and waiter replies ..with ..there are free refills on soda...would you like one ....? Thats an upsell


The money is getting harder and harder to make in this business and offering upsells is another way to maximize the revenue you make ..

There is nothing wrong with it

Of course this is all my opinion ...
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Old 07-19-2004, 01:04 PM   #107
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Yes, the Hawgs do operate a solid "webmaster" program. But this thread was never about the webmaster. This is about the fair treatment of the consumer.

nuff said...
Maybe you should be posting on Readers Digest and not GFY



Where's p1mpdog when you need him. Webmasters wanna get PPS, then they bitch about you making money of "their" surfer.

Why can't people just make money and be happy??
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Old 07-19-2004, 01:07 PM   #108
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Maybe you should be posting on Readers Digest and not GFY



Where's p1mpdog when you need him. Webmasters wanna get PPS, then they bitch about you making money of "their" surfer.

Why can't people just make money and be happy??
don't mind 49thParallel... he's nothing but a bitter surfer who forgot to cancel his trial, got rebilled, had his wife bitch at him and now he has a personal vendetta against all sites that rebill.
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Old 07-19-2004, 03:14 PM   #109
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In response to the 2 posts above..YES, that is my only purpose. Thanks for asking.

And YES, that is the same as most PPS programs...Damn... I see where you are going with this. If the other programs do it as well, then this must be all right.
Wow, does that ever take a load off my mind! As long as the other programs also rip of the consumer, then everything is cool. Thanks for the revelation!
He's right. But, we don't really have to argue. Visa noticed what we've done, and they've reacted. Their reactions have been illogical, silly, and costly. They are going to get worse. We saw thousands of Merchant accounts closed recently. Pretty soon the costs of running these sorts of operations will balence out.

What does that mean for Adult Player Cash? Well, it means that they will probably run just inside the law, until the law changes, or NastyDollars takes over the internet. I can respect those guys. I don't even really think they like me, but they convert on Pichunter well, and offer huge amounts of content to the user, with a low price, and good customer service. I joined them, and fucked with them, cancelling, asking for refunds, missing obvious things in the terms. Pretty much anytime I said anything, they just gave me my refund, and told me they were sorry. Maybe APC will take the earnings they make this way, and invest them in being a nasty dollars of the future, or maybe just when legislation changes.


Bottom line, 49th, thanks for the report, I appreciate the information. But don't worry too much, theirs is coming for them, as time moves on.

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Old 07-20-2004, 12:53 AM   #110
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bump for 2nd crosssell

i hate to see the hawgs leaving money on the table!

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Old 07-20-2004, 06:30 PM   #111
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don't mind 49thParallel... he's nothing but a bitter surfer who forgot to cancel his trial, got rebilled, had his wife bitch at him and now he has a personal vendetta against all sites that rebill.
Would it really change the facts if I was just a "bitter surfer". Nope, it wouldn't. But fact is, I could tell you more about how most adult programs work then the reps working for the companies.

And, for those that are checking, I'm not a surfer...been in this business since 2001. And even promoted some of the programs I have included in my expose...until I started looking into the backroom operations....and decided that I for one had to draw the line. If making money meant being nothing more then a glorified crook...no thanks.

I make about 10% of what I did when I started..but that's a fair price to pay.

And there's some of you who even know my first identity on this board...starting in early 2001. Same approach, same style...but when I went on a long, long holiday, I forgot my password and found it easier to start over.

And as far as crooked programs go...watch out..I have no plans on quitting anytime soon!
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