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MasterBlogger 07-17-2004 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
It's time we pushed out all the people who survive on billing tricks. More sites should have real content, easy to understand terms and be upfront about their whole billing process. AND cancelation procedure. Those that have real content or something unique to offer will survive - those that have nothing and are in fact scammers and approach the industry as such will perish and it's about fucking time they did.

who the fuck would EVER want to pay for a site only to find the members section is nothing but upsells and has no real content - and then you buy an upsell only to find MORE upsells. too many idiots have fucked the surfer over for too long on that business model. it's time for the dinosars to experience extinsion - on a mass level.


yep ...
things are improving though

Varius 07-17-2004 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by ShellyCrash
But what are the stipulations to the payout? Do they have to have a gender ratio or a conversion ratio to get it? Ours don't.:Graucho

Even on the lowest tier you can get up to $55.98. Do you offer up to that much on a rev share to newbies?

How much do you pay on the per-email option?

It's cool if you don't want to put your site in your sig, but I don't like to play blind. ICQ me to compare notes.

No gender conversion or ratios. No stipulations at all. Long as the affiliate reaches his minimum payout (starting at 30$), he gets paid. We currently don't have a per-email program or per-signup program, only revshare, but that will change with our new version launching August 1st :thumbsup

On tier2, we also start at 10% not 3%.....

I have no sig because this is a new account and I want to keep a low profile so we can come out with more bang!, but you'll definately be seeing us come August :Graucho

Tried to add you to ICQ but it seems fucked at the moment and won't let me......you can try adding me 38373031.

cummins 07-17-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
It's time we pushed out all the people who survive on billing tricks. More sites should have real content, easy to understand terms and be upfront about their whole billing process. AND cancelation procedure. Those that have real content or something unique to offer will survive - those that have nothing and are in fact scammers and approach the industry as such will perish and it's about fucking time they did.

who the fuck would EVER want to pay for a site only to find the members section is nothing but upsells and has no real content - and then you buy an upsell only to find MORE upsells. too many idiots have fucked the surfer over for too long on that business model. it's time for the dinosars to experience extinsion - on a mass level.

Well said! For us, half of our sign-ups every month come from members who were members before, quit and are now coming back. And, since they are direct type-ins there's no referral fee to pay so it's all money that goes back into our site, or into our pockets:)

I would say that this is the only way to run a porn business, but the fact is there are a lot of people who have made some serious cash by treating customers fairly poorly. The question is how many bridges are they burning? Eventually it seems like customers will become more savvy and demand more. I think that the fact that you see so many successful review sites popping up is a sign of this.

ShellyCrash 07-17-2004 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by Varius
No gender conversion or ratios. No stipulations at all. Long as the affiliate reaches his minimum payout (starting at 30$), he gets paid. We currently don't have a per-email program or per-signup program, only revshare, but that will change with our new version launching August 1st :thumbsup

On tier2, we also start at 10% not 3%.....

I have no sig because this is a new account and I want to keep a low profile so we can come out with more bang!, but you'll definately be seeing us come August :Graucho

Tried to add you to ICQ but it seems fucked at the moment and won't let me......you can try adding me 38373031.

I'm ICQing you and you're dead in the water..... starting to think your keyboard just wrote a check your ass couldn't cash?
Email me your link, and I'll check it out.

Nysus 07-17-2004 03:20 PM

The people that are actually fucking over surfers don't actually care - which is why they do it - the quick buck.

Cheers,
Matt

SleazyDream 07-17-2004 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by TheWildcard
educating surfers = less money for us
idiot

Nysus 07-17-2004 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
idiot
How about using constructive criticism instead of being an asshole? You really could just say that he's wrong.

And really, you don't want to educate surfers.

What should be done is webmasters should only promote sites that they know have actual content, therefore their surfers are only getting to good/quality sites without 'billing tricks.'

Do you review the inside of every paysite that's advertised on your sites, your gallery submitter's advertise, those paysite's exit console sites, etc?

There's no way any individual can do that - other than using the current paysite review / rating sites.

Using those as a guide would help increase people's revenues.

So, please enjoy my constructive words of wisdom.

Cheers,
Matt

SleazyDream 07-17-2004 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
How about using constructive criticism instead of being an asshole? You really could just say that he's wrong.

And really, you don't want to educate surfers.

What should be done is webmasters should only promote sites that they know have actual content, therefore their surfers are only getting to good/quality sites without 'billing tricks.'

Do you review the inside of every paysite that's advertised on your sites, your gallery submitter's advertise, those paysite's exit console sites, etc?

There's no way any individual can do that - other than using the current paysite review / rating sites.

Using those as a guide would help increase people's revenues.

So, please enjoy my constructive words of wisdom.

Cheers,
Matt

idiot

pornguy 07-17-2004 03:35 PM

Sleazy..

The main problem is that it is actually some of the MAJOR Players in adult, that have those types of members areas.

But they also have everyone and their brother selling for them.

SleazyDream 07-17-2004 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by pornguy
Sleazy..

The main problem is that it is actually some of the MAJOR Players in adult, that have those types of members areas.

But they also have everyone and their brother selling for them.

more and more people are moving away from that model.

Nysus 07-17-2004 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
idiot
Only trying to help.

Cheers,
Matt

angelsofporn 07-17-2004 03:40 PM

everyone thinks the paysite game is so easy...hence everyone and thier mother starting one these days.
live and learn

SleazyDream 07-17-2004 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Nysus
Only trying to help.

Cheers,
Matt

doen't change your idiotness

Varius 07-17-2004 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ShellyCrash
I'm ICQing you and you're dead in the water..... starting to think your keyboard just wrote a check your ass couldn't cash?
Email me your link, and I'll check it out.

I don't write checks hehe :1orglaugh

I"m on now.

Nysus 07-17-2004 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
doen't change your idiotness
I gave my reply to your immaturity in the new thread I started.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=4797676

Also, if you think a board persona isn't reflective of who you are, because it is a form of communication, then you need to put a little more thought into your reality.

Cheers,
Matt

MasterBlogger 07-17-2004 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
I gave my reply to your immaturity in the new thread I started.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=4797676

Also, if you think a board persona isn't reflective of who you are, because it is a form of communication, then you need to put a little more thought into your reality.

Cheers,
Matt


a board "persona" is just a "bored" persona ..
no-one here from the text is what you "expect" them to be.
ding dong - the lights are on but no-one is home?

Nysus 07-17-2004 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MasterBlogger
a board "persona" is just a "bored" persona ..
no-one here from the text is what you "expect" them to be.
ding dong - the lights are on but no-one is home?

My lights are on, but yours aren't because you missed my point.

People may think there's a difference but this is a form of communication, such as talking whether in person or over the phone.

People who think there's a difference really need to reflect / re-analyze their reality.

Cheers,
Matt

jayeff 07-17-2004 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
more and more people are moving away from that model.
I hope you are right, but I can't say I have seen many signs. Small operators maybe, but they often did go that route. The "players" still seem busy building disposable sites and programs: ie if/when they burn out, hell just build some more, launch v3, or whatever...

In fact, I wondered just today when someone wrote along the lines of "great going guys, your programs always rock..." whether he actually thought about the implications of what he said.

Elli 07-17-2004 04:21 PM

I just had a thought.

You know, if programs spent some time building quality sites that they maintained more consistently, they probably wouldn't have to shave their affiliates.

cummins 07-17-2004 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
I just had a thought.

You know, if programs spent some time building quality sites that they maintained more consistently, they probably wouldn't have to shave their affiliates.

This is so true! If people even took a small portion of the time they spent on GFY and put it into their site then they would be better off:)

dirtydesignz 07-17-2004 04:36 PM

We do realy good with retention with little to no upsells to speak of. We do 'upsell' sextoys and that works out great.

Fresh content, hard work, an easy to navigate members area and good customer support has really done the trick for us.

cummins 07-17-2004 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by dirtydesignz
We do 'upsell' sextoys and that works out great.

Who do you use for oder fullfillment? I've been looking at doing this within our member's area.

Any gotchas that I should look out for?

dirtydesignz 07-17-2004 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cummins
Who do you use for oder fullfillment? I've been looking at doing this within our member's area.

Any gotchas that I should look out for?

What we did is start our own toy site... www.adultsextoyclub.com and run links to it in our members areas. We use sextoysex as our supplier and it has really worked out great. David Levine runs a great program and pays on time, every time with no hassles..ever. :thumbsup

ShellyCrash 07-17-2004 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varius
I don't write checks hehe :1orglaugh

I"m on now.

Our rev share scale is more agressive- therefore easier for webmasters to climb. We also go up to 60%, which currently you are not. We also offer our webmasters more then one payment plan. It was nice talking to you though- and I wish you best of luck with your launch. Feel free to ICQ anytime. :thumbsup

Tom_PMs 07-17-2004 05:40 PM

Good point, Elli.

Theres too much of a "one shot" attitude sometimes. As if the first chance you'll have for a sale is the only chance. So screw em. Thats a shortsighted mistake it seems...

Treat a customer good and they may tell a friend. Treat a customer bad and they'll *for sure* tell 10 friends.

Who doesnt love to bitch about something that pissed them off? Nobody.

quiet 07-17-2004 05:42 PM

:glugglug

SleazyDream 07-17-2004 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
I gave my reply to your immaturity in the new thread I started.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=4797676

Also, if you think a board persona isn't reflective of who you are, because it is a form of communication, then you need to put a little more thought into your reality.

Cheers,
Matt

still doesn't change your idiotness


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