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dirtysouth · 07-16-2004, 02:01 PM

riosluts · 07-16-2004, 02:01 PM

wow. They actually all look real. Or are they real, or was it just photoshopped.

dirtysouth · 07-16-2004, 02:02 PM

dirtysouth · 07-16-2004, 02:02 PM

What is the title of the series?

Saihihi: Cum Shots.

No ambiguity there.

Exactly. That's the idea.

Real semen?

Absolutely. It is absolutely real.

Who are the models, and who are the . . . donors?[/b]
I called friends and acquaintances and asked them to be in the shoot. During the conversation, I made it pretty clear that I wanted them to bring whoever their partner was.

Did you have trouble recruiting models?

At one point it seemed that we weren't making progress. We had twenty volunteers who?d responded to an ad a friend of mine posted in a gay chat. I put an ad on Craig's List and was amazed at the response. But it didn't work out with any of them. Some bailed, others couldn't convince their boyfriends to do it. So the images you see are mostly friends and friends of friends.

Wasn't it strange to see friends take a faceful of come?

Extremely strange, and so normal. A lot of people wanted to do it again when they were done. Afterwards, we would go have dinner and a drink. And I was thinking, that this is really how it is: you put somebody's genitals in your face, and then you go to work. You swallow somebody, and then you kiss someone else hello in the elevator of your building.

[b]So, the idea: when did it hit you?

[color=white]About a year and a half ago. I wanted to do a series on how I feel popular culture is getting more and more saturated with pornographic imagery whenever something needs to be sold ? any product, any TV program. The pimp-and-whore look is everyday fashion. But as people get more and more sexed
up, they don't necessarily have a happier or healthier sex life. They don't have
a better relationship with their sexuality. My point was not to claim that pornography or sexual self-empowerment were "bad" or "immoral," just to say it's everywhere, and our acceptance of it is a pose. If you told some of the same people who wore pimp-and-ho clothing that you support gay marriages or gay adoption, they'd be up in arms.

So how does a load in the face communicate that?

Semen is a life force. But in pop culture, any sort of sexual activity leading up to ejaculation is portrayed without the life force. Semen really is the beginning of everything, but in most of the images we're given for sexual entertainment, it's the end of everything. Do you agree?

Sounds like a slightly Biblical objection. Like religious leaders telling you not to masturbate because it's wasting your seed.

I think that's a very good point. But the individual masturbating or having sex
is in a situation they choose to be in. That's something I stand up for, whether
it's gay, straight or my daughters. Once they're old enough to have one-night
stands, I want them to have one-night stands. But I want it to be their choice.
We're at the point where sex is being pushed as a substitute for sex, oddly enough,
instead of having a relationship with your body and your semen. Nobody can tell
me that because there are more people running around with their butt cracks hanging
out ? which is fine by me, I like looking at it ? that they have better sex lives.
They're just dictated by forces of the market.

What if I told you these images normalize facial cumshots? Shot in such a conservative way, the act seems less repulsive than in porn, more acceptable. So, in a roundabout way aren't you advancing the porn aesthetic and canceling out your message?

I would probably say that I don't think is possible. If there was any way for you to prove that to me, I would be interested in seeing that.

You don't customarily see real people's faces and conservative clothing covered in come. That normalizes the facial.

To me, it's more of the classical wake-up call. My gallery has never had so many people reacting ? literally within minutes ? to an email invitation. I've had people say the series was disgusting, without having even seen the series. People have been very upset with me and the gallerist too.

How did your wife feel about the series?

My wife is very supportive. She's helped me with my most
outrageous series of photographs. She recruited people from her work. But
I told her I'd respect her boundaries; I wouldn't do that to anybody.

You mean, come on someone else's face?

I won't go outside our marriage, even for the sake of art. I usually put myself into my shoots; that's always been a part of my series. There was a guy I really wanted to be in this series, and I thought, I'll have him blow me and I'll come in his face. But my wife put in the veto, and I let her. She said, "Please do not come on Mickey's face, no matter how good of friends you guys are."

How was each shoot conducted?

The shoots were kept quiet and intimate. I didn't even have an assistant. It would have been great to have one, because the sperm goes from opaque to clear extremely quickly. With the lights and the heat, you basically have about two minutes to shoot.

Any ? timing problems?

Nope, all I had to do was man the camera.

Did you give the models any special instructions?

Basically, the couples came into the space, we set up, we took a Polaroid before, and then I would leave, and they would do whatever they felt like doing. I asked them to call me as quickly as possible. We'd go straight to film. From the sounds I heard waiting outside, people had a blast.

Did everything land where you wanted it? Or was there a retouching process?

[solemnly] I promise I did not digitize anything. We did not pick up any Q-tips and move sperm around. We did not enhance colors.

Was any stunt semen used?

No, no stunt semen. The other thing I'll say about that is, look, it's men. You can't expect us to have good aim.

Did any of the models have performance anxiety?

Yes, one couple. The girl who was the most traumatized was the one whose boyfriend couldn't get it up. I really looked forward to putting her photograph in the series. But then I thought it didn't make sense, because this is a commentary on how sexuality has been made into a sales pitch, and within that framework, there's no "it's not working." It always works. She was very traumatized.

How's audience response going?

There are those who come in and decide they're going to be blasé, and then there are those who are really disgusted and disturbed. As an artist who needs to send his kids to school, the best reaction is, "Oh my God, these are so disturbing, these are so beautiful, I'm buying one."

When can we expect the female ejaculation gallery?

I'll have one when the fucking boyfriends have more balls to take it up the face. I had three females who ejaculate, ready to model. To see female ejaculation and how much it looks like sperm, how it flies like sperm ... but my friend's fuckin' wimp boyfriend wouldn't let me photograph him with her ejaculate on his face. And the two lesbian couples bailed out for reasons I was not able to get out of them, whether it was anxiety or fear of not being able to come. It was very hard for me not to have female ejaculation...

PenetratinP · 07-16-2004, 02:02 PM

wtf????

Your thread title reminds me of the Metallica album cover where the artist pressed cum and blood between glass.

sickkittens · 07-16-2004, 02:02 PM

old...but still very nasty

sean416 · 07-16-2004, 02:06 PM

QualityMpegs · 07-16-2004, 02:09 PM

zzziiipppp

okny · 07-16-2004, 02:11 PM

i dont know what kinda of art that falls into but those peeps look funny.

Dagwolf · 07-16-2004, 02:12 PM

Milk... It does a body good.

D-Money · 07-16-2004, 02:28 PM

They all look pretty pissed that they took it in the face.

Especially the black dude.

pxxx · 07-16-2004, 02:41 PM

Kind of nasty

iDiz · 07-16-2004, 02:57 PM

original!

Ash@phpFX · 07-17-2004, 02:59 AM

this stuff is old, but its really good

nofx · 07-17-2004, 03:09 AM

very weird concept but I dont know if I would call it "art"

Fizzgig · 07-17-2004, 03:11 AM

That is some kind of messed up.

Manowar · 07-17-2004, 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by D-Money
Especially the black dude.

Hes covered in it

More Booze · 07-17-2004, 03:26 AM

Kicker · 07-17-2004, 03:59 AM

Sarma · 07-17-2004, 04:19 AM

i don't like it at all. But it is funny though

I wonder if these people have families that were watching this behing the camera

poor kids..

arachnO · 07-17-2004, 04:23 AM

heh

piskas · 07-17-2004, 04:36 AM

that shit i stoned dude

mcmc · 07-17-2004, 04:40 AM

jeez thats nasty

TweetyBird · 07-17-2004, 04:53 AM

simply don' like it.

keenertim · 07-17-2004, 05:00 AM

those pics are pretty powerful

Ar3s · 07-17-2004, 05:02 AM

eiht_98 · 07-17-2004, 05:05 AM

I don't like it....

arachnO · 07-17-2004, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eiht_98
I don't like it....

why?

stembolt · 07-17-2004, 06:07 AM

mmmmmmmm!
art can take all different shapes and sizes and this case splashes.

Fucked Beyond Repair · 07-17-2004, 06:38 AM

The guy behind the pics should quit the art and start a paysite

// Vertigo

mrthumbs · 07-17-2004, 06:52 AM

Quote:

You mean, come on someone else's face?

I won't go outside our marriage, even for the sake of art. I usually put myself into my shoots; that's always been a part of my series. There was a guy I really wanted to be in this series, and I thought, I'll have him blow me and I'll come in his face. But my wife put in the veto, and I let her. She said, "Please do not come on Mickey's face, no matter how good of friends you guys are."

Adultnet · 07-17-2004, 07:04 AM

lol there are no limits for the art

Tania · 07-17-2004, 07:09 AM

that i's so funny

hvidlogspusher · 07-17-2004, 07:11 AM

OMFG!! LOL

italianninja · 07-17-2004, 07:52 AM

you cannot be serious.

Jill_J · 07-17-2004, 07:53 AM

he he nice pics

zdwebber · 07-17-2004, 07:54 AM

Sure it's art.
But it is also quite disgusting.
The black dude is obviously lovin' it.

Platinumpimp · 07-17-2004, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtysouth

This one definately has a hunger for more.

silent moan · 07-17-2004, 10:16 AM

Terrific!

Fantastic!

Fabulous!

Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!

What a great masterpiece of a noble artist

kimzar · 07-17-2004, 10:24 AM

pood · 07-17-2004, 11:11 AM

OMFG

ROFL

ModelPerfect · 07-17-2004, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dagwolf
Milk... It does a body good.

dammit, you beat me. I was just going to say "got milk?"

Floridiot · 07-17-2004, 11:27 AM

thats wrong on so many levels

ShellyCrash · 07-17-2004, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
This one definately has a hunger for more.

Until I read to commentary I thought it was the best photoshop job I had ever seen.

jscott · 07-17-2004, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PenetratinP
wtf????

exactly, wtf!!!!

SomeCreep · 07-17-2004, 11:51 AM

cumart.com, taken. What a world we live in

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dirtysouth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mobtown Posts: 2,613	What is the title of the series? Saihihi: Cum Shots. No ambiguity there. Exactly. That's the idea. Real semen? Absolutely. It is absolutely real. Who are the models, and who are the . . . donors?[/b] I called friends and acquaintances and asked them to be in the shoot. During the conversation, I made it pretty clear that I wanted them to bring whoever their partner was. Did you have trouble recruiting models? At one point it seemed that we weren't making progress. We had twenty volunteers who?d responded to an ad a friend of mine posted in a gay chat. I put an ad on Craig's List and was amazed at the response. But it didn't work out with any of them. Some bailed, others couldn't convince their boyfriends to do it. So the images you see are mostly friends and friends of friends. Wasn't it strange to see friends take a faceful of come? Extremely strange, and so normal. A lot of people wanted to do it again when they were done. Afterwards, we would go have dinner and a drink. And I was thinking, that this is really how it is: you put somebody's genitals in your face, and then you go to work. You swallow somebody, and then you kiss someone else hello in the elevator of your building. [b]So, the idea: when did it hit you? [color=white]About a year and a half ago. I wanted to do a series on how I feel popular culture is getting more and more saturated with pornographic imagery whenever something needs to be sold ? any product, any TV program. The pimp-and-whore look is everyday fashion. But as people get more and more sexed up, they don't necessarily have a happier or healthier sex life. They don't have a better relationship with their sexuality. My point was not to claim that pornography or sexual self-empowerment were "bad" or "immoral," just to say it's everywhere, and our acceptance of it is a pose. If you told some of the same people who wore pimp-and-ho clothing that you support gay marriages or gay adoption, they'd be up in arms. So how does a load in the face communicate that? Semen is a life force. But in pop culture, any sort of sexual activity leading up to ejaculation is portrayed without the life force. Semen really is the beginning of everything, but in most of the images we're given for sexual entertainment, it's the end of everything. Do you agree? Sounds like a slightly Biblical objection. Like religious leaders telling you not to masturbate because it's wasting your seed. I think that's a very good point. But the individual masturbating or having sex is in a situation they choose to be in. That's something I stand up for, whether it's gay, straight or my daughters. Once they're old enough to have one-night stands, I want them to have one-night stands. But I want it to be their choice. We're at the point where sex is being pushed as a substitute for sex, oddly enough, instead of having a relationship with your body and your semen. Nobody can tell me that because there are more people running around with their butt cracks hanging out ? which is fine by me, I like looking at it ? that they have better sex lives. They're just dictated by forces of the market. What if I told you these images normalize facial cumshots? Shot in such a conservative way, the act seems less repulsive than in porn, more acceptable. So, in a roundabout way aren't you advancing the porn aesthetic and canceling out your message? I would probably say that I don't think is possible. If there was any way for you to prove that to me, I would be interested in seeing that. You don't customarily see real people's faces and conservative clothing covered in come. That normalizes the facial. To me, it's more of the classical wake-up call. My gallery has never had so many people reacting ? literally within minutes ? to an email invitation. I've had people say the series was disgusting, without having even seen the series. People have been very upset with me and the gallerist too. How did your wife feel about the series? My wife is very supportive. She's helped me with my most outrageous series of photographs. She recruited people from her work. But I told her I'd respect her boundaries; I wouldn't do that to anybody. You mean, come on someone else's face? I won't go outside our marriage, even for the sake of art. I usually put myself into my shoots; that's always been a part of my series. There was a guy I really wanted to be in this series, and I thought, I'll have him blow me and I'll come in his face. But my wife put in the veto, and I let her. She said, "Please do not come on Mickey's face, no matter how good of friends you guys are." How was each shoot conducted? The shoots were kept quiet and intimate. I didn't even have an assistant. It would have been great to have one, because the sperm goes from opaque to clear extremely quickly. With the lights and the heat, you basically have about two minutes to shoot. Any ? timing problems? Nope, all I had to do was man the camera. Did you give the models any special instructions? Basically, the couples came into the space, we set up, we took a Polaroid before, and then I would leave, and they would do whatever they felt like doing. I asked them to call me as quickly as possible. We'd go straight to film. From the sounds I heard waiting outside, people had a blast. Did everything land where you wanted it? Or was there a retouching process? [solemnly] I promise I did not digitize anything. We did not pick up any Q-tips and move sperm around. We did not enhance colors. Was any stunt semen used? No, no stunt semen. The other thing I'll say about that is, look, it's men. You can't expect us to have good aim. Did any of the models have performance anxiety? Yes, one couple. The girl who was the most traumatized was the one whose boyfriend couldn't get it up. I really looked forward to putting her photograph in the series. But then I thought it didn't make sense, because this is a commentary on how sexuality has been made into a sales pitch, and within that framework, there's no "it's not working." It always works. She was very traumatized. How's audience response going? There are those who come in and decide they're going to be blasé, and then there are those who are really disgusted and disturbed. As an artist who needs to send his kids to school, the best reaction is, "Oh my God, these are so disturbing, these are so beautiful, I'm buying one." When can we expect the female ejaculation gallery? I'll have one when the fucking boyfriends have more balls to take it up the face. I had three females who ejaculate, ready to model. To see female ejaculation and how much it looks like sperm, how it flies like sperm ... but my friend's fuckin' wimp boyfriend wouldn't let me photograph him with her ejaculate on his face. And the two lesbian couples bailed out for reasons I was not able to get out of them, whether it was anxiety or fear of not being able to come. It was very hard for me not to have female ejaculation... __________________ no sig

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