Capture Card recommendations? - GoFuckYourself.com

Elli · 07-16-2004, 10:13 PM

I'm in the market for a new capture card. My current one is an ancient Hauppage WinTV card, that is no longer recognized by any major program. Windows Movie Maker recognizes it fine, but that's about it. SO any and all suggestions and info are welcome!!

Elli · 07-16-2004, 10:31 PM

Bueller?

jukeboxfrank · 07-16-2004, 10:33 PM

I like ATI products but their capture software leaves the files
too large.

JulianSosa · 07-16-2004, 10:33 PM

Do you even need a capture card these days? Why not use a firewire cable?

Sorry if im retarded but I just use firewire . What are the advantages of a special capture card?

Elli · 07-16-2004, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jukeboxfrank
I like ATI products but their capture software leaves the files
too large.

I had their All-in-Wonder about 5 years ago and was very less than impressed. Ah well.

riosluts · 07-16-2004, 10:35 PM

i'd say go with the ATI AIW. Are you going to need tv-out?

Elli · 07-16-2004, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa
Do you even need a capture card these days? Why not use a firewire cable?

Sorry if im retarded but I just use firewire . What are the advantages of a special capture card?

Well, I have firewire on my Audigy Z2, but I only have an onboard video card (Go on, laugh. Get it out of your system). So you're saying I just need to upgrade the video card to one that has a firewire plug?

jukeboxfrank · 07-16-2004, 11:07 PM

5 yrs is forever in the PC world...The trouble with firewire
is not all software will find and use the camera as a source.
But to each their own..

Elli · 07-16-2004, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jukeboxfrank
5 yrs is forever in the PC world...The trouble with firewire
is not all software will find and use the camera as a source.
But to each their own..

So what would you recommend, frank? An ATI or something else?

Stewie · 07-16-2004, 11:19 PM

We've always used Winnov cards - Osprey are supposed to be another good brand, but we have never personally tried them.

Vitasoy · 07-16-2004, 11:21 PM

Canopus ADVC-100

DV/Firewire
DV Converter
Analog VideoIn

The converted DV streams are transferred to your PC or Mac via IEEE 1394 (i.Link, FireWire) and stored on your hard drive where they can be manipulated using your favorite photo or video editing applications. This device is ideal for all OHCI and DV-only capture cards for Macintosh or PC.

Proven DV CODEC Technology
At the heart of ADVC100 is Canopus's proprietary DV codec chip providing the industry's best picture quality preservation during analog-to-DV and DV-to-analog conversion.

Locked Audio Support
Other converters can lose audio/video sync when converting longer segments of video. The ADVC-100 is the first inexpensive DV converter that supports locked audio when converting from analog to digital, assuring perfect audio and video synchronization.

> High Quality (original hardware design, co-developed with NEC
> Custom hardware Codec chip (original Canopus algorithm)
> Locked Audio Support (capture long clips w/perfect audio sync)
> Analog output of NTSC color bars for reference signal)
> 4-pin DV jack on front; 6-pin FireWire jack on back
> Analog input connector on front
> Analog output connector on back

http://www.canopus.com/US/products/a...m_advc-100.asp

William-Xfactor · 07-17-2004, 12:14 AM

Hi Elli
Check out Matrox RTX 100 Extreme pro http://www.matrox.com/video/products...mepro/home.cfm

I have been using it for a few months now and love it.
I really like the capture software, makes it really easy to catalog all your mini dv tapes for future capturing. I also use the Audigy 2 ZS platinum card.
You can export right from the premier timeline in real-time. I also use pro coder 2 which makes it the complete editing / encoding setup for me.

AaronM · 07-17-2004, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stewie
We've always used Winnov cards - Osprey are supposed to be another good brand, but we have never personally tried them.

Once again.....I'm with Stewie on this one.

http://winnov.com/products/capture/videum1000plus.htm

William-Xfactor · 07-17-2004, 12:18 AM

Oh yeah you will need to buy a video card, onboard video is not suitable
cheers

AaronM · 07-17-2004, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by William-Xfactor
Oh yeah you will need to buy a video card, onboard video is not suitable
cheers

Wrong.

JulianSosa · 07-17-2004, 12:23 AM

What is the difference between a video card and just using firewire?

William-Xfactor · 07-17-2004, 12:26 AM

Wrong? lol
That post was in reference to my matrox recommendation I made to Elli
If you want performance from system you do not use on board video
Now go fuck your self

William-Xfactor · 07-17-2004, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa
What is the difference between a video card and just using firewire?

Basically it takes the load of the cpu, even the fastest cpu?s can not supply enough juice to give you render free encoding, especially when you use advanced 3d effects, also gives you full quality preview and real-time export to tape / disc. Something?s still need to be rendered but overall I have found it much faster myself

AaronM · 07-17-2004, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by William-Xfactor
Wrong? lol
That post was in reference to my matrox recommendation I made to Elli
If you want performance from system you do not use on board video
Now go fuck your self

Elli does FAR less video work than I do and I use onboard video.

WTF do I know though? I'm just an idiot newbie....Unlike you.

Mikey_219Inc · 07-17-2004, 12:41 AM

huge hard drives, huffyyuv codec, firewire, rambus memory

William-Xfactor · 07-17-2004, 12:44 AM

Ok I worded it wrong, I?m sure you can use it but why not spend 50 bucks on a video card and get the performance benefits with your system.

Anyway I have things to do I?m not going to waste my time arguing here.

AaronM · 07-17-2004, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by William-Xfactor
Ok I worded it wrong, I?m sure you can use it but why not spend 50 bucks on a video card and get the performance benefits with your system.

Anyway I have things to do I?m not going to waste my time arguing here.

Because it's $50 that could be applied to places that it is needed. You do not need an upgraded video card for what Elli does.

William-Xfactor · 07-17-2004, 12:54 AM

Fair enough. I wouldn?t know what she does but if she doesn?t do much, then why even bother with a capture card at all! She has a firewire connection on her Audigy

I?m out cheers

JSA Matt · 07-17-2004, 01:05 AM

Winnov is the way to go. I just saw this and i'm a fan of Plextor, anyone know if it's any good?

http://www.plextor.com/english/products/ConvertX2.htm

Elli · 07-17-2004, 01:07 AM

Wow, thanks for the feedback everyone!

Aaron, please try to play nice, at least in my threads.

So are you saying the firewire plug on my Audigy would work fine? or no? I am confused. It's only a 800MHz PII processor with 512MB of RAM.

MaDalton · 07-17-2004, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Wow, thanks for the feedback everyone!

Aaron, please try to play nice, at least in my threads.

So are you saying the firewire plug on my Audigy would work fine? or no? I am confused. It's only a 800MHz PII processor with 512MB of RAM.

what camera do you have - analog or digital? If you got a digital mini-dv camera with firewire you just need a firewire port on your pc. then you can capture directly from the camera via firewire to your harddisk. it should work even with your computer.

AaronM · 07-17-2004, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Wow, thanks for the feedback everyone!

Aaron, please try to play nice, at least in my threads.

So are you saying the firewire plug on my Audigy would work fine? or no? I am confused. It's only a 800MHz PII processor with 512MB of RAM.

WTF? I was playing nice. I gave you honest and good feedback then I told somebody they were wrong and they came back and cussed at me.

If telling somebody that they're wrong is a bad thing then every teacher and parent in this words should be punished whenever they do it.

Un fucking believable that you would tell me to play nice in this situation.

Excuse me Elli....He's right. You do need a new video card. In fact, you need 6 of them, 5 - 1tb hard drives, 4 firewire ports, 3 LCD monitors, 2 editing programs, and a partridge in a fucking pear tree.

Now I'm off to go fly a kite.

Elli · 07-17-2004, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
WTF? I was playing nice. I gave you honest and good feedback then I told somebody they were wrong and they came back and cussed at me.

If telling somebody that they're wrong is a bad thing then every teacher and parent in this words should be punished whenever they do it.

Un fucking believable that you would tell me to play nice in this situation.

Excuse me Elli....He's right. You do need a new video card. In fact, you need 6 of them, 5 - 1tb hard drives, 4 firewire ports, 3 LCD monitors, 2 editing programs, and a partridge in a fucking pear tree.

Now I'm off to go fly a kite.

I apologize, Aaron. I misread (again). I need to stop skimming, I think.

Thanks for the info, I really do appreciate it. Sorry about that Aaron

McDonalds Manager · 08-16-2004, 11:35 AM

im on a mission. im gonna turn the board completely backwards by bumping every old thread from front to back. should only take 100 years or so. I have most of my GFY employees working on it.

07-16-2004, 10:13 PM	#1
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Capture Card recommendations? I'm in the market for a new capture card. My current one is an ancient Hauppage WinTV card, that is no longer recognized by any major program. Windows Movie Maker recognizes it fine, but that's about it. SO any and all suggestions and info are welcome!! __________________ email: [email protected]

07-16-2004, 10:31 PM	#2
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Bueller? __________________ email: [email protected]

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riosluts Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,250	i'd say go with the ATI AIW. Are you going to need tv-out? __________________

07-16-2004, 11:07 PM	#8
jukeboxfrank Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: www.jenniferworthington.com Posts: 1,207	5 yrs is forever in the PC world...The trouble with firewire is not all software will find and use the camera as a source. But to each their own.. Last edited by jukeboxfrank; 07-16-2004 at 11:10 PM..

07-16-2004, 11:21 PM	#11
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	Canopus ADVC-100 DV/Firewire DV Converter Analog VideoIn The converted DV streams are transferred to your PC or Mac via IEEE 1394 (i.Link, FireWire) and stored on your hard drive where they can be manipulated using your favorite photo or video editing applications. This device is ideal for all OHCI and DV-only capture cards for Macintosh or PC. Proven DV CODEC Technology At the heart of ADVC100 is Canopus's proprietary DV codec chip providing the industry's best picture quality preservation during analog-to-DV and DV-to-analog conversion. Locked Audio Support Other converters can lose audio/video sync when converting longer segments of video. The ADVC-100 is the first inexpensive DV converter that supports locked audio when converting from analog to digital, assuring perfect audio and video synchronization. > High Quality (original hardware design, co-developed with NEC > Custom hardware Codec chip (original Canopus algorithm) > Locked Audio Support (capture long clips w/perfect audio sync) > Analog output of NTSC color bars for reference signal) > 4-pin DV jack on front; 6-pin FireWire jack on back > Analog input connector on front > Analog output connector on back http://www.canopus.com/US/products/a...m_advc-100.asp __________________ [email protected]

07-16-2004, 10:33 PM	#3
jukeboxfrank Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: www.jenniferworthington.com Posts: 1,207	I like ATI products but their capture software leaves the files too large.

07-16-2004, 10:33 PM	#4
JulianSosa Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,042	Do you even need a capture card these days? Why not use a firewire cable? Sorry if im retarded but I just use firewire . What are the advantages of a special capture card?

07-16-2004, 11:19 PM	#10
Stewie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In bed with Vanilla Posts: 3,670	We've always used Winnov cards - Osprey are supposed to be another good brand, but we have never personally tried them.

07-17-2004, 12:14 AM	#12
William-Xfactor Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 299	Hi Elli Check out Matrox RTX 100 Extreme pro http://www.matrox.com/video/products...mepro/home.cfm I have been using it for a few months now and love it. I really like the capture software, makes it really easy to catalog all your mini dv tapes for future capturing. I also use the Audigy 2 ZS platinum card. You can export right from the premier timeline in real-time. I also use pro coder 2 which makes it the complete editing / encoding setup for me.

07-17-2004, 12:18 AM	#14
William-Xfactor Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 299	Oh yeah you will need to buy a video card, onboard video is not suitable cheers

07-17-2004, 12:23 AM	#16
JulianSosa Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,042	What is the difference between a video card and just using firewire?

07-17-2004, 12:26 AM	#17
William-Xfactor Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 299	Wrong? lol That post was in reference to my matrox recommendation I made to Elli If you want performance from system you do not use on board video Now go fuck your self

07-17-2004, 12:41 AM	#20
Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	huge hard drives, huffyyuv codec, firewire, rambus memory __________________ Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

07-17-2004, 12:44 AM	#21
William-Xfactor Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 299	Ok I worded it wrong, I?m sure you can use it but why not spend 50 bucks on a video card and get the performance benefits with your system. Anyway I have things to do I?m not going to waste my time arguing here.

07-17-2004, 12:54 AM	#23
William-Xfactor Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 299	Fair enough. I wouldn?t know what she does but if she doesn?t do much, then why even bother with a capture card at all! She has a firewire connection on her Audigy I?m out cheers

07-17-2004, 01:05 AM	#24
JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	Winnov is the way to go. I just saw this and i'm a fan of Plextor, anyone know if it's any good? http://www.plextor.com/english/products/ConvertX2.htm

07-17-2004, 01:07 AM	#25
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Wow, thanks for the feedback everyone! Aaron, please try to play nice, at least in my threads. So are you saying the firewire plug on my Audigy would work fine? or no? I am confused. It's only a 800MHz PII processor with 512MB of RAM. __________________ email: [email protected]

08-16-2004, 11:35 AM	#29
McDonalds Manager So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Banging the counter girl in the ass Posts: 79	im on a mission. im gonna turn the board completely backwards by bumping every old thread from front to back. should only take 100 years or so. I have most of my GFY employees working on it.