Blade Runner fans.........Is Deckard a Replicant Or Not Do You Think?

[Bansheelinks]

Just watched "Blade Runner" again for the umpteenth time, the Director's Cut on DVD of course.......clearly this is one of the best if not the best sci-fi movie ever..........my question to you is, do you think, finally, that Deckard is a replicant himself or not?

[David - PG]

1. Yes, the best sci-fi movie ever.
2. Of course he's a replicant. That's why he nods his head in the scene before he enteres the elevator. He understands that he only has weeks, months, maybe 1-2 years left before he will die. He takes Rachel who has the same limited life expectancy and runs.

[aeon]

He is.

When he's getting ready to fall at the end, Roy grabs his arm and says "kinship". Also, when he was talking with Bryant about how many replicants jumped ship...notice Bryant mentioned six. One had already died but Deckard is only going after four.

[Basic_man]

Originally posted by David - PG
1. Yes, the best sci-fi movie ever.
2. Of course he's a replicant. That's why he nods his head in the scene before he enteres the elevator. He understands that he only has weeks, months, maybe 1-2 years left before he will die. He takes Rachel who has the same limited life expectancy and runs.

best sci-fi ever? are you crazy !?

[Bansheelinks]

Originally posted by Basic_man
best sci-fi ever? are you crazy !?

whats your favorite?

[Benja]

Great movie. The video game was very nice too, they really got the concept of the movie.

And yeah, it's probably one of the best sci-fi movie ever. After the matrix

[Bansheelinks]

Originally posted by Benja
Great movie. The video game was very nice too, they really got the concept of the movie.

And yeah, it's probably one of the best sci-fi movie ever. After the matrix

You mean the first Matrix movie, obviously, correct?

Also, "The Animatrix" rocked as a cartoons........loved it.....especially the storyline of the battle and takeover

[David - PG]

Without Bladerunner a whole generation of science fiction and apocalytic movies would never have existed.

How can anybody ever even compare Matrix and Bladerunner?! Matrix is entertainment, good entertainment for that matter. Bladerunner is a timeless piece of art.

[=^..^=]

Director Ridley Scott has finally revealed the answer to a plot twist in his film Blade Runner which has been the topic of fierce debate for nearly two decades.
Movie fans have been divided over whether Harrison Ford's hard-boiled cop character Deckard was not human but a genetically-engineered "replicant" - the very creatures he is tasked with destroying.

Little suspicion was raised by the 1982 original version of the film, based on Philip K Dick's novel: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

But a decade later the Director's Cut edition - although deliberately ambiguous - convinced many that the hero was indeed a replicant and in a Channel 4 documentary Scott at last reveals they are correct.

'He's a replicant'

The acclaimed British director, who also directed Alien, Thelma and Louise and current box-office hit Gladiator, settles the issue when questioned on key aspects of the film's imagery.

In the Director's Cut version, the biggest clue for analysts was the appearance of a unicorn on screen while Deckard is lost in thought.


The image of the mythical creature appears again towards the end of the film when he picks up an origami model discarded by another character, Gaff.

As the replicants had no memories of their own, they had to be implanted, and fans interpreted the appearance of the model as a sign that Gaff knew what Deckard was thinking because it was an image shared by other non-humans.

In Channel 4's documentary On The Edge Of Blade Runner, Scott discusses the scenes and asked what they mean, he confirms with a grin: "He's a replicant".

Another hint in the film comes from the number of replicants which Deckard is hunting.
We find out that six had made their way to earth, one of whom was killed. Deckard is looking for four, begging the question: "Who is the fifth replicant?".

Blade Runner's futuristic urban imagery was hugely influential on later movies but at the time of its release it was a relative box office flop.

However the film noir-style movie proved to be a success when released on video with repeated viewings revealing hidden depths.


When it was first made, poor reception at preview screenings prompted the film's backers to call for a happy ending being added, as well as a voice-over from Ford.
Scott removed these for his revised version. "What we'd done was kind of a dark novel, it was rather novelistic," he said.

"I didn't really realise that that eventually became the true longevity of the whole film - you revisit it constantly like re-reading one of your favourite books. You always find you get sucked in again.

"I still think it's one of the best films I ever made," he added.

[NoCarrier]

Deckard was a Real Doll.

[Benja]

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
You mean the first Matrix movie, obviously, correct?

Also, "The Animatrix" rocked as a cartoons........loved it.....especially the storyline of the battle and takeover

Yes, the first one ;) Although I had fun for the 2 others and the animatrix too.

[Benja]

Originally posted by David - PG
Without Bladerunner a whole generation of science fiction and apocalytic movies would never have existed.

How can anybody ever even compare Matrix and Bladerunner?! Matrix is entertainment, good entertainment for that matter. Bladerunner is a timeless piece of art.

I agree But they are 2 sci-fi movies. or no?
And the The Matrix also started a whole new generation of movies. In a lot of ways. It's not only entertainment.

[quiet]

Originally posted by Benja
I agree But they are 2 sci-fi movies. or no?
And the The Matrix also started a whole new generation of movies. In a lot of ways. It's not only entertainment.

yes, The Matrix is much more than a good sci-fi film. as is Blade Runner. they just come at different times...

[Marcus Aurelius]

Blade runner is an awesome film. Definitely broadened alot of horizons and probably inspired quite a few directors of more recent future classics as the original matrix film.

[Tuga]

Bladerunner is the shit!

[senseidru]

Originally posted by =^..^=
Another hint in the film comes from the number of replicants which Deckard is hunting.
We find out that six had made their way to earth, one of whom was killed. Deckard is looking for four, begging the question: "Who is the fifth replicant?".

I think you are wrong there, I agree with everything else you say. The biggest clue is the unicorn scene which is absolutely excellent. The reason that in some places you hear there were 6 and he was looking for 4 was because of budget cuts and the script was not changed, this has been discussed many a time and said by the director I do believe.

Bladerunner without a doubt is the best sci-fi film of all time.

[TweetyBird]

Blade Runner kicked ass as a movie

[Bansheelinks]

Originally posted by =^..^=
Director Ridley Scott has finally revealed the answer to a plot twist in his film Blade Runner which has been the topic of fierce debate for nearly two decades.


'He's a replicant'

=^..^=, you beat me to it! I had the article ready to post and all.......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/825641.stm

there is also another one here that is xcellent:

http://hem.passagen.se/replikant/bla...er_unicorn.htm

Also, in Sebastian's room, there is a unicorn stuffed animal. Hmmmmmmmm..........

What an awesome movie!

[Bansheelinks]

Some quotes from the movie:


Roy Batty: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.


Tyrell: I'm surprised you didn't come here sooner. Roy: It's not an easy thing to meet your maker. Tyrell: What could he do for you? Roy: Can the maker repair what he makes?

Roy: I've done... questionable things. Tyrell: Also extraordinary things. Revel in your time. Roy: Nothing the god of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.

Gaff: It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?

Batty: C'mon, Deckard. I'm right here. All you gotta do is shoot straight. [Deckard shoots and misses] Straight doesn't seem to be good enough!

Batty: Not very sporting to fire on an unarmed opponent. I thought you were supposed to be good. Aren't you the "good" man? C'mon, Deckard. Show me what you're made of.

Bryant: I need ya, Deck. This is a bad one, the worst yet. I need the old blade runner, I need your magic.

Deckard: They don't advertise for killers in the newspaper. That was my profession. Ex-cop. Ex-blade runner. Ex-killer.

Deckard: Have you felt yourself to be exploited in any way? Zhora: Like what? Deckard: Well... well, like to get this job. I mean, did... did you do, or... or were you asked to do anything lewd... or unsavory, or... or, otherwise repulsive to your... your person, huh? Zhora: [Laughs] Are you for real?

Deckard: She's a replicant. Tyrell: I'm impressed, Mr. Deckard. How many questions does it normally take? Deckard: I don't get it... Tyrell: How many? Deckard: Twenty, thirty, cross-referenced. Tyrell: But with Rachael it took more than a hundred. Deckard: She doesn't know. Tyrell: She is beginning to suspect I think. Deckard: Beginning to suspect? How can it not know what it is?

Deckard: The report read "Routine retirement of a replicant." That didn't make me feel any better about shooting a woman in the back.

Roy Batty: Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled about their shores... burning with the fires of Orc.

Roy Batty: Questions. Lab Worker: I don't know answers, I just do eyes. You Nexus, huh? I design your eyes. Roy Batty: Chew, if only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

Tyrell: "More human than human" is our motto. Roy Batty: Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here.

Roy Batty: I want more life, fucker.

Deckard: All they'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us wanted, where have I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got?

Roy Batty: Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.

Gaff: You've done a man's job, sir! I guess you are through? Deckard: Finished.

Rachael: Do you like our owl? Deckard: Is it artificial? Rachael: Of course it is. Deckard: Must be expensive. Rachael: Very. It seems you feel our work is not a benefit to the public. Deckard: Replicants are like any other machine - they're either a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit, it's not my problem.

Rachael: Can I ask you a personal question? Deckard: Sure. Rachael: Have you ever retired a human by mistake? Deckard: No. Rachael: But in your position it's a risk.

Deckard: Sushi. That's what my ex-wife calls me - cold fish.

Sushi Master: He say you are blade runner. Deckard: Tell him I'm eating.

Rachael: Are these questions testing whether I'm a replicant or a lesbian, Mr. Deckard?

Deckard: I have had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming.

Leon: Nothing is worse than having an itch you can never scratch!

Deckard: I don't know why he saved my life; maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he had ever before. Not just his life; anybody's life. My life.

Deckard: Leon! Leon: How old am I? Deckard: I dunno. Leon: My birthday is April 10, 2017. How long do I live? Deckard: Four years. Leon: More than you! Painful to live in fear, isn't it?

Rick Deckard: I was quit when I come in here, Bryant, I'm twice as quit now.

Captain Bryant: You could learn from this guy Gaff. He's a God damned one-man slaughterhouse, that's what he is. Drink some for me, huh pal?

Roy Batty: That was irrational of you... not to mention unsportsmanlike.

Deckard: Say you love me. Rachael: I love you. Deckard: Again! Rachael: I love you. Deckard: Say, "Put your hands on me."

Batty: Did you get your precious photos? Leon: No. Batty: Why? Leon: There were some men... Batty: Men. POLICE men?

Batty: We're not computers, J.R., we're physical.

[Bansheelinks]

Here's some of the wav's of those quotes:


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[dready]

P.K. Dick is my fav sci-fi author and soon to be the most adapted to film when 'A Scanner Darkly' is released.

Other Movies adapted from his stories:

Blade Runner (1982)
Based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

Screamers (1990)
Based on "Second Variety"

Total Recall (1992)
Based on "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale"

Confessions d'un Barjo (French, 1992)
Based on "Confessions of a Crap Artist"

Impostor (2001)
Based on "Impostor."

Minority Report (2002)
Based on "The Minority Report."

Paycheck (Christmas 2003)
Based on "Paycheck."

Directed by Richard Linklater from his own screenplay, A Scanner Darkly stars Keanu Reeves, Winona Ryder, Robert Downey Jr., Woody Harrelson and Rory Cochrane.

This one should rock! The family estate is closely involved and say it will be the truest adaptation yet. It will be released in 2005.

[Firehorse]

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
=^..^=, you beat me to it! I had the article ready to post and all.......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/825641.stm

there is also another one here that is xcellent:

http://hem.passagen.se/replikant/bla...er_unicorn.htm

Also, in Sebastian's room, there is a unicorn stuffed animal. Hmmmmmmmm..........

What an awesome movie!

=^..^= beats me every night!

[Firehorse]

Blade Runner and The Matrix are movie masterpieces!

[hottoddy]

Originally posted by aeon
He is.

...Also, when he was talking with Bryant about how many replicants jumped ship...notice Bryant mentioned six. One had already died but Deckard is only going after four.

I thought the sixth Bryant refers to is Rachael at the Tyrell Corporation, played by Sean Young. 5 jumped ship, one died early on, and then Deckard discovered Rachael after an exhaustive test.

As for Deckard, it's an open question. There are definitely many hints that he may be, but also many against. All humans around him seem to support that he'd been "retiring" replicants for a long time - well beyond the 4-year life span. However, with memory implantations and a host of willing actors to play along, anything is possible.

[Indeed]

very interesting...

[David - PG]

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
Some quotes from the movie:Roy Batty: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

Thinking about it, this very scene emphasized by Vangelis' sound score makes these 20 seconds the emontionally strongest & all around best scene in any movie I have ever seen.

[David - PG]

It's great to see some other fans of this great movie here Props to all the movie connoisseurs

[basschick]

blade runner is one of my favorite movies of all time, although i prefer the original to the director's cut. i recently saw the director's cut at a theater - it was great to see it full sized!!!

i think it is beautifully photographed - one of the purtiest movies in any genre. the fifth element had moments in the beginning that seemed to be influenced by it.

i read "do androids dream of electric sheep" a ways back, and don't recall any hints that deckard is a replicant. but i wasn't really looking for any - while reading it, i sort of accepted the story at face value.

[Indeed]

Originally posted by basschick
i read "do androids dream of electric sheep" a ways back, and don't recall any hints that deckard is a replicant. but i wasn't really looking for any - while reading it, i sort of accepted the story at face value.

I read an article about the book and apparently he is not a replicant. But it is not the same story as blade runner. The movie was only inspired by the book.

[Bansheelinks]

Ridley Scott came out and admitted that in his movie, BR, Deckard is indeed a replicant. Notice how only a replicant's eyes glow briefly and shine at certain times in the movie? Deckard's do as well, right after Rachel saves his life in the shooting. The Director's Cut, the unicorn scene, is a dead give-away, as are so many other numerous hints throughout......

a fascinating movie...........and brilliant!

Ridley Scott............Blade Runner and Alien(if you haven't seen the Director's Cut of Alien, I highly recommend it).........it may take us a long time to arrive at the future such as is in those movies, but I think he's got a more accurate representation of it in those movies than any other sci-fi movies I can think of.

[erehwon]

=^..^= beat me to what I was going to post, but even in the original cut in the theaters, the notion that Deckard was a replicant was there with the huge picture collection there on the piano, and how replicants love their photo collection, and can't live without them.