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Old 07-14-2004, 04:09 PM   #1
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Whoa! Big Brother Hits Mexico. > 160 Mexicans Implanted With Tracking Microchips

Chips Implanted in Mexico Judicial Workers



MEXICO CITY - Security has reached the subcutaneous level for Mexico's attorney general and at least 160 people in his office ? they have been implanted with microchips that get them access to secure areas of their headquarters.

It's a pioneering application of a technology that is widely used in animals but not in humans.

Mexico's top federal prosecutors and investigators began receiving chip implants in their arms in November in order to get access to restricted areas inside the attorney general's headquarters, said Antonio Aceves, general director of Solusat, the company that distributes the microchips in Mexico.

More are scheduled to get "tagged" in coming months, and key members of the Mexican military, the police and the office of President Vicente Fox might follow suit, Aceves said.

A spokeswoman for Macedo de la Concha's office said she could not comment on Aceves' statements, citing security concerns. But Macedo himself mentioned the chip program to reporters Monday, saying he had received an implant in his arm. He said the chips were required to enter a new federal anti-crime information center.

"It's only for access, for security," he said.

The chips also could provide more certainty about who accessed sensitive data at any given time. In the past, the biggest security problem for Mexican law enforcement has been corruption by officials themselves.

Aceves said his company eventually hopes to provide Mexican officials with implantable devices that can track their physical location at any given time, but that technology is still under development.

The chips that have been implanted are manufactured by VeriChip Corp., a subsidiary of Applied Digital Solutions Inc. of Palm Beach, Fla.

They lie dormant under the skin until read by an electromagnetic scanner, which uses a technology known as radio frequency identification, or RFID, that's now getting hot in the inventory and supply chain businesses.

Scott Silverman, Applied Digital Solutions' chief executive, said each of his company's implantable chips has a special identification number that would foil an impostor.

"The technology is out there to duplicate (a chip)," he said. "What can't be stolen is the unique identification number and the information that is tied to that number."

Erik Michielsen, director of RFID analysis at ABI Research Inc., said that in theory the chips could be as secure as existing RFID-based access control systems such as the contactless employee badges widely used in corporate and government facilities.

However, while those systems often employ encryption, Applied Digital's implantable chips do not as yet. Silverman said his company's system is nevertheless save because its chips can only be read by the company's proprietary scanners.

In addition to the chips sold to the Mexican government, more than 1,000 Mexicans have implanted them for medical reasons, Aceves said. Hospital officials can use a scanning device to download a chip's serial number, which they then use to access a patient's blood type, name and other information on a computer.

The Food and Drug Administration has yet to approve microchips as medical devices in the United States.

Still, Silverman said that his company has sold 7,000 chips to distributors worldwide and that more than 1,000 of those had likely been inserted into customers, mostly for security or identification reasons.

In 2002, a Florida couple and their teenage son had Applied Digital Solutions chips implanted in their arms. The family hoped to someday be able to automatically relay their medical information to emergency room staffers.

The chip originally was developed to track livestock and wildlife and to let pet owners identify runaway animals. The technology was created by Digital Angel Corp., which was acquired by Applied Digital Solutions in 1999.

Because the Applied Digital chips cannot be easily removed ? and are housed in glass capsules designed to break and be unusable if taken out ? they could be even more popular someday if they eventually can incorporate locator capabilities. Already, global positioning system chips have become common accouterments on jewelry or clothing in Mexico.

In fact, in March, Mexican authorities broke up a ring of used-car salesmen turned kidnappers who were known as "Los Chips" because they searched their victims to detect whether they were carrying the chips to help them be located.
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Old 07-14-2004, 04:13 PM   #2
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damn who would have ever thought it would start there

as a side not they should put those in everyone they catch trying to cross the border. Then set up tracking devices so we know when they cross.
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damn who would have ever thought it would start there

as a side not they should put those in everyone they catch trying to cross the border. Then set up tracking devices so we know when they cross.
I think they should put those in anyone who gets convicted of a serious crime and then gets out of prison since so many of those guys end up doing crime again as soon as they get out.
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My cat has one of those things installed in it.

But its strange. I can feel it on em.
Real sick feeling.
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I think they should put those in anyone who gets convicted of a serious crime and then gets out of prison since so many of those guys end up doing crime again as soon as they get out.
i dont think its right...

someone commited a crime, he went to prison for 10 years , he went out and he's free again, just as anyone else.

Sure, if he's a pedo, he shouldnt be alowed to work in kindergarten, but normally, i would say a criminal who got released from jail shouldnt be monitored all the time....
he also has the right to privacy and to start a normal life
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Old 07-14-2004, 04:21 PM   #6
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I think they should put those in anyone who gets convicted of a serious crime and then gets out of prison since so many of those guys end up doing crime again as soon as they get out.
that's how it all starts in all the movies then goes down hill from there..

you know , they could do away with Social Security cards or drivers licenses and credit cards.. everything could be in a little chip in your arm. Then next thing you know when you go to the mall they are advertising using your name... (hence minority report) yep give them 15 more years

we are so fucked
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I think they should put those in anyone who gets convicted of a serious crime and then gets out of prison since so many of those guys end up doing crime again as soon as they get out.
what would that accomplish? they're right under the skin, a pocket knife and 15 seconds it's out.
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If I was rich I would get something put in me that can tell where I am anywhere in the world down to like 10 feet area. That way if I was ever kidnapped or trapped somewhere or missing or killed, my family could find me easily, could help catch a killer or whatever easily. Set it up with some kind of password so only family members could find you and it couldnt be used against you.
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what would that accomplish? they're right under the skin, a pocket knife and 15 seconds it's out.
You'd have to also criminalize the unauthorized removal of the chips also then.

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what would that accomplish? they're right under the skin, a pocket knife and 15 seconds it's out.
Insert it in the persons buttcheeks.
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Call me crazy, but i say another 20-30 yrs and I bet the GOV starts making these implants that will immunize you from most "diseases" (input whatever other excuse/reason here)
ect ect...


That will be the guise to start all this monitoring and other bullshit
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They are beta testing in some hospitals too, as the chips may save lives in case of accidents by having within seconds and with a simple scan, the whole medical history of a patient, blood type, allergies, etc. all transmited via wireless network to the place of the accident.
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I think they should put those in anyone who gets convicted of a serious crime and then gets out of prison since so many of those guys end up doing crime again as soon as they get out.
This is true....
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Yunno, this is kinda off topic but have you guys ever noticed there's never any webmasters from Mexico on this board?
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Yunno, this is kinda off topic but have you guys ever noticed there's never any webmasters from Mexico on this board?
not even Scott Cohen?
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Old 07-14-2004, 07:38 PM   #17
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Yunno, this is kinda off topic but have you guys ever noticed there's never any webmasters from Mexico on this board?
StephanieM is from Cancun.
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and the first implantation of a chip in a human brain is at
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Wahington, D.C.

explans some of that behavior dosen't it?
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At last a solution to the problem of stolen Mexicans. Now they're low-jacked.
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Call me crazy, but i say another 20-30 yrs and I bet the GOV starts making these implants that will immunize you from most "diseases" (input whatever other excuse/reason here)
ect ect...


That will be the guise to start all this monitoring and other bullshit

OR, they will create a disease "only curable" via this implant.
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And we all thought that our governent was controlling
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how the fuck did mexico get this first?
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Insert it in the persons buttcheeks.
Funny yet it might work
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how the fuck did mexico get this first?

I'd say they were given a bonus to be the first government to put it to use & make an announcement about it and another part of me says they are the human guinea pigs.
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Wonder when they will start implanting these chips into every new born baby or to anyone who gets a operation
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KRL, do you have a url for this news?

By the way, check this: http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/04/1676374.php
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That's some creepy shit. I don't think I'd ever submit to having the government implant any kind of location/identification chip in me (although the idea of having it done privately isn't bad; it'd be great to always be able to find your kids. I worry about the little guys).
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KRL, do you have a url for this news?

By the way, check this: http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/04/1676374.php
It's okay, i found the link ;)


http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/ap/...ap1456285.html
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how the fuck did mexico get this first?
We have had this for quite a while on things like boneprone's cat, dogs and cattle.
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My cat has one of those things installed in it.

But its strange. I can feel it on em.
Real sick feeling.
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not even Scott Cohen?
The chances of Scott Cohen being Mexican are pretty slim. He may be the first Jew in Mexico!

I'm betting Stephanie isn't Mexican either.

Where's all the Mayan porn slingers?
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Eventually everyone will be tagged if the Government has their way!
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Yeah, for our security....
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They don't encrypt info ? weird ...

I dunno if this is really good ... if the technology works well we will start seeing this in hospitals ... thats fucked up
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aside from the complete lack of personal freedom, data input errors could cause much worse problems. what if you get the data for a person who has ALMOST the same number (maybe social security?) that you have? or what if a wrong piece of info is typed about you? now it's stuck inside you and not one person will believe you.
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aside from the complete lack of personal freedom, data input errors could cause much worse problems. what if you get the data for a person who has ALMOST the same number (maybe social security?) that you have? or what if a wrong piece of info is typed about you? now it's stuck inside you and not one person will believe you.
Indeed but Im sure that the real criminals will find a very short solution to this and if it will take to hack the device they will.
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