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  • FightThisPatent
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    • Aug 2003
    • 4090

    #1

    Game over for Acacia - Markman Ruling

    For those that want to read the just released court order, it's VERY BAD NEWS FOR ACACIA!

    Let the celebration begin.

    http://www.fightthepatent.com/MarkmanOrder.pdf

    It will be interesting to see how Acacia spins the news.



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  • Viper2K1
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    • Aug 2001
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    #2
    nice
    Spank me
    Dude, where's my traffic?

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    • FreeHugeMovies
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      • Dec 2001
      • 14141

      #3
      Sweet, See Sig!

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      • crockett
        in a van by the river
        • May 2003
        • 76818

        #4
        man that's a lot to dig through.. can you quote the good parts? did they say the patent was no good?

        or what was the reasoning?
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        • 80smetal
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          • Jun 2004
          • 505

          #5
          FTP sum it up, lose the legal jargon, laymens terms?

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          • bignasty
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            • Nov 2003
            • 1421

            #6
            started reading it, ill fall asleep if i keep reading, any one got cliff's notes?
            '

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            • Jonathan Quarkschowski
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              • Jun 2004
              • 631

              #7
              Originally posted by crockett
              man that's a lot to dig through.. can you quote the good parts? did they say the patent was no good?

              or what was the reasoning?
              dump your actg shares, I did @ 7.50 a while ago.

              congrats charly.

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              • Spunky
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                • Jun 2002
                • 133986

                #8
                It's a start..right on

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                • BRISK
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #9
                  Summary?
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                  • egonetworks
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                    • Jan 2004
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                    #10
                    woot woot

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                    • Paul Markham
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                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #11
                      Some one with some brains read it and quote the good bits.

                      I'm at home and can't open the file.



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                      • zanycash Pete
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                        #12
                        nice

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                        • FightThisPatent
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by 80smetal
                          FTP sum it up, lose the legal jargon, laymens terms?

                          I haven't read through the 40 pages.. been on the phone and helping to spread the word, but got the scoope from various sources... some of the claims from acacia don't hold up, which leads to a non-infringement verdict (eventually) for the defendants.

                          This is very bad for Acacia... buh-bye...

                          I will be travelling on biz all day tomorrow, so I wanted to just get it out there for people to read before i can get a chance to digest it and present it in my own patented way. I'll write up my summary on the plane and post as soon as i can.

                          The short summary: it's all good for the defendants.





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                          • p1mpdogg
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                            • Nov 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by charly
                            Some one with some brains read it and quote the good bits.

                            I'm at home and can't open the file.
                            idiot... another reason elderly shouldn't be allowed in this business..

                            fucking tool.

                            grow some brains shit head.. your content sucks ass, i hope you die asap

                            fucking jerkoff!
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                            • Spunky
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                              • Jun 2002
                              • 133986

                              #15
                              Lots to read,alot of legal mumbo jumbo...but it is looking good so far...this is good news indeed

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                              • crockett
                                in a van by the river
                                • May 2003
                                • 76818

                                #16
                                Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                idiot... another reason elderly shouldn't be allowed in this business..

                                fucking tool.

                                grow some brains shit head.. your content sucks ass, i hope you die asap

                                fucking jerkoff!
                                are you mad you signed up now?
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                                • TurboTrucker
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                                  #17

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                                  • Global Dialers
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                                    #18
                                    to summarize the 40 pages almost always end with something along the lines of..

                                    'the court finds in favor of the defendants'

                                    in other words... acacia is truely fucked
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                                    • p1mpdogg
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                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 16714

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                      are you mad you signed up now?
                                      not mad at all

                                      why waste 1000's on defense, when i can settle for 300 a month till the suit is settled..

                                      im not a very good looking guy, but im no dummy when it comes to business.
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                                      • Global Dialers
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                        idiot... another reason elderly shouldn't be allowed in this business..

                                        fucking tool.

                                        grow some brains shit head.. your content sucks ass, i hope you die asap

                                        fucking jerkoff!
                                        how does it feel knowing you wasted all that $$$ for nothing pimpslut
                                        the hun gets revenue from pre-paid gallery placements on the top 15 spaces and banners.
                                        the rest of thegalleries are free placements.

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                                        • baddog
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                                          • Apr 2001
                                          • 107089

                                          #21
                                          well, after reading over it, apparently there are some typos in the patent (compressor vs decompressor) and some discussion as to whether or not a human being can be a library, or just what a library really is, and some other stuff.

                                          The parties both have motions pending and they are supposed to meet and confer by 8/6/04 so they can proceed.

                                          Nothing has really been decided, except the Court does seem to be leaning away from the Plaintiff (Acacia)

                                          Again, that was just a brief scan . . . I hate reading PDF format

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                                          • p1mpdogg
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                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 16714

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Global Dialers
                                            how does it feel knowing you wasted all that $$$ for nothing pimpslut
                                            i didnt waste anything.. its called playing it safe...

                                            when you get a few nickels in your pocket to rub together, maybe you will understand smart business.

                                            dipshit.
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                                            • baddog
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                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 107089

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Global Dialers
                                              to summarize the 40 pages almost always end with something along the lines of..

                                              'the court finds in favor of the defendants'

                                              then you should fast forward to page 40

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                                              • Paul Markham
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                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 52942

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                idiot... another reason elderly shouldn't be allowed in this business..

                                                fucking tool.

                                                grow some brains shit head.. your content sucks ass, i hope you die asap

                                                fucking jerkoff!
                                                For those who chose to fight, it must be very good news.

                                                For those who chose to give in it means they have to keep paying out. Lifes a bitch.

                                                For Acacia it's bad news because all they have now is the license money from those to spineless to fight.

                                                So if you want to help keep Acacia, Ryan and Berman from the poorhouse send some traffic to p1mpdogg so he can send some money to the leeches.



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                                                • Jonathan Quarkschowski
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                                                  • Jun 2004
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                  i hope you die asap

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                                                  • FightThisPatent
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by baddog

                                                    Nothing has really been decided, except the Court does seem to be leaning away from the Plaintiff (Acacia)


                                                    You are on the right track... the Markman Order basically says that some of the claims don't apply to the defendants.

                                                    There will need to be some more court sessions, that will eventually lead to a non-infringement verdict (probably by december).

                                                    The judge's findings is very damaging to Acacia. This really is a big win for the Defense Group, who have put in so much of their time and company profits... along with Spike who has endured this murky sea of patent infringements.

                                                    Cheers to the Defense Group, let the Champagne flow.


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                                                    • p1mpdogg
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by charly
                                                      For those who chose to fight, it must be very good news.

                                                      For those who chose to give in it means they have to keep paying out. Lifes a bitch.

                                                      For Acacia it's bad news because all they have now is the license money from those to spineless to fight.

                                                      So if you want to help keep Acacia, Ryan and Berman from the poorhouse send some traffic to p1mpdogg so he can send some money to the leeches.
                                                      with or without your traffic, i will continue to support them till its settled.

                                                      I dont need your traffic, i make my money selling your pics that i steal from your site...
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                                                      • baddog
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                                                        • Apr 2001
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by charly
                                                        For those who chose to fight, it must be very good news.

                                                        For those who chose to give in it means they have to keep paying out. Lifes a bitch.

                                                        For Acacia it's bad news because all they have now is the license money from those to spineless to fight.

                                                        So if you want to help keep Acacia, Ryan and Berman from the poorhouse send some traffic to p1mpdogg so he can send some money to the leeches.
                                                        this coming from someone who has yet to read the order?

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                                                        • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                                          #29
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                                                          • baddog
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by FightThisPatent

                                                            There will need to be some more court sessions, that will eventually lead to a non-infringement verdict (probably by december).
                                                            I love the positive attitude.

                                                            I have to give props to the Judge's law clerk, they really did some research to even be able to write that order (anyone that knows the legal system knows the law clerks do all the work).

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                                                            • p1mpdogg
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                              this coming from someone who has yet to read the order?
                                                              LOL
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                                                              • Paul Markham
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                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                • 52942

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                not mad at all

                                                                why waste 1000's on defense, when i can settle for 300 a month till the suit is settled..

                                                                im not a very good looking guy, but im no dummy when it comes to business.
                                                                So the ruling means you no longer pay?

                                                                And you admit you signed up to save money and to hell with everyone else.

                                                                Actually you're either lying about the money you pay out or lying about the size of your business, seems $300 a month is $15,000 a month turnover. So you're not such a big boy after all, as I said a puppy. And don't come back with you got a lower settlement becasue we will not beleive you.

                                                                Do you stop paying Acacia now or is that to be decided?



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                                                                • boobmaster
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                                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                  i didnt waste anything.. its called playing it safe...

                                                                  when you get a few nickels in your pocket to rub together, maybe you will understand smart business.

                                                                  dipshit.
                                                                  Playing it safe while fucking your fellow webmasters in the ass by contributinbg to Acacia's legal fund. Don't think for a second that webmasters are just going to forgive and forget what companies like yours did. We will remember the companies who stood with us, as well as the ones who sold us out.

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                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 52942

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                    well, after reading over it, apparently there are some typos in the patent (compressor vs decompressor) and some discussion as to whether or not a human being can be a library, or just what a library really is, and some other stuff.

                                                                    The parties both have motions pending and they are supposed to meet and confer by 8/6/04 so they can proceed.

                                                                    Nothing has really been decided, except the Court does seem to be leaning away from the Plaintiff (Acacia)

                                                                    Again, that was just a brief scan . . . I hate reading PDF format
                                                                    Thanks Baddog, it will hurt Acacia's share price and their prospect of getting more licensees.

                                                                    We should all be supporting the defense group and hurting the licensees as much as possible. Now is the time to twist the dagger.



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                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                      • 107089

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                      LOL
                                                                      believe me, when it come to chosing between you and him, it is never an easy choice

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                                                                      • p1mpdogg
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                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                        • 16714

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by charly
                                                                        So the ruling means you no longer pay?

                                                                        And you admit you signed up to save money and to hell with everyone else.

                                                                        Actually you're either lying about the money you pay out or lying about the size of your business, seems $300 a month is $15,000 a month turnover. So you're not such a big boy after all, as I said a puppy. And don't come back with you got a lower settlement becasue we will not beleive you.

                                                                        Do you stop paying Acacia now or is that to be decided?
                                                                        why on earth wouldnt i lie to acacia about our income moron?

                                                                        by the time you send this thread to them, or quote me and it makes its way to thier lawyers when they have time to breathe.. the suit will be over with.

                                                                        you are not very bright are you?

                                                                        fuck acacia, im saving money by giving them a taste of what they are losing out on..

                                                                        just enough to satisfy them...

                                                                        you are a moron arnt you., that isnt a question either.
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                                                                        • p1mpdogg
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                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 16714

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                          believe me, when it come to chosing between you and him, it is never an easy choice
                                                                          ahahaha

                                                                          dont hate fucker!

                                                                          you know you like me!
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                                                                          • Axeman
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Congrats to Spike, Farrell, Greg, Jeff, Tim and the rest of the defense group for a great job and not backing down in this fight.


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                                                                            • p1mpdogg
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                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 16714

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by boobmaster
                                                                              Playing it safe while fucking your fellow webmasters in the ass by contributinbg to Acacia's legal fund. Don't think for a second that webmasters are just going to forgive and forget what companies like yours did. We will remember the companies who stood with us, as well as the ones who sold us out.
                                                                              im sad to say, but webmaster really dont give a flying fuck about acacia.

                                                                              when we settled along with the 100 other programs that settled, we didnt lose a dime in business.

                                                                              stick that up your ass.
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                                                                              • baddog
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                                                                                • Apr 2001
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                ahahaha

                                                                                dont hate fucker!

                                                                                you know you like me!
                                                                                you have no idea

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                                                                                • KRL
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                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 31429

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Fantastically great news!

                                                                                  I knew these Newport Beach lawyers would never stand a chance with this overly broad patent.

                                                                                  Can't wait to watch this stock sink into oblivion.

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                                                                                  • JSA Matt
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Exellent news, we will never forget the sell-outs. Never.

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                                                                                    • BradM
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      FUCK YEAH FTP!

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                                                                                      • Paul Markham
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                                                                                        • 52942

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                        with or without your traffic, i will continue to support them till its settled.

                                                                                        I dont need your traffic, i make my money selling your pics that i steal from your site...
                                                                                        Steal from my site and I will bury you. I'm suing those who do that.

                                                                                        Hang on I'm only suing those with the money and guts to fight, you will settle and pay up, based on your previous record.

                                                                                        $300 a month?????


                                                                                        The lowest fee was $1,500 and that was for under $50K in sales.. 300 x 12 = $3,600... which is about what you would pay for $100K/yr in sales

                                                                                        and sweetheart deals are given for big named players, not unknown/small webmasters



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                                                                                        • marzzo
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                                                                                          #45
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                                                                                          • FlyingIguana
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                                                                                            • 10870

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                            Fantastically great news!

                                                                                            I knew these Newport Beach lawyers would never stand a chance with this overly broad patent.

                                                                                            Can't wait to watch this stock sink into oblivion.

                                                                                            You guys that bought stock in this company deserve what you get to.
                                                                                            someone's gotta buy or else how can people short?

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Axeman
                                                                                              Congrats to Spike, Farrell, Greg, Jeff, Tim and the rest of the defense group for a great job and not backing down in this fight.


                                                                                              - Brent Axford
                                                                                              It's not over yet, the Markman terms definition stage is a preliminary stage before the parties can weed out the crucial issues in the case. Hopefully, with certain key terms like "remote locations" decided in the Defendants' favor in ENOUGH of the claims (remember, there's MANY claims per grouping) this should put the scare on ACACIA.

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                                                                                              • crockett
                                                                                                in a van by the river
                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                • 76818

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                Fantastically great news!

                                                                                                I knew these Newport Beach lawyers would never stand a chance with this overly broad patent.

                                                                                                Can't wait to watch this stock sink into oblivion.

                                                                                                You guys that bought stock in this company deserve what you get to.
                                                                                                yea know shit, I hope this news gets out fast enough so they lose their profit on this.
                                                                                                In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                • boobmaster
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 6185

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                                  im sad to say, but webmaster really dont give a flying fuck about acacia.

                                                                                                  when we settled along with the 100 other programs that settled, we didnt lose a dime in business.

                                                                                                  stick that up your ass.
                                                                                                  Keep thinking those positive thought as you keep butt fucking Bob Berman for the next several months.

                                                                                                  There are just TOO MANY good sponsors out there for webmasters to choose from these days. There is no reason to support sell outs like you.

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                                                                                                  • FightThisPatent
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                                    It's not over yet, the Markman terms definition stage is a preliminary stage before the parties can weed out the crucial issues in the case.

                                                                                                    You are correct sir..... the findings in the Markman Order will be used in upcoming court sessions that would utimately give the final verdict of non-infringement.

                                                                                                    This is a major victory for the defendants as everyone has been waiting to see the outcome.

                                                                                                    The Defense Group still needs your support.. there is still legal fees to pay to push the nail into coffin.

                                                                                                    The example that will be set here is don't come to the adult biz if you want to troll your patent...

                                                                                                    Corporate america (especially publically traded companies) have shown the new trick of doing the patent rollover.

                                                                                                    Support the Defense Group, now is the most crucial time to jump in.

                                                                                                    Offer your support:
                                                                                                    Spike: (949) 716-8080. Contributions can also be sent to: Acacia Joint Defense Group, c/o Spike Goldberg, New Destiny, 27111 Aliso Viejo Rd., #180, Aliso Viejo, Calif. 92656.



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