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  • dank
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    • Mar 2001
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    #1

    new content provider needs advice

    I'm a photographer just beginning work as a content provider for adult sites. So far I only have about 30-45 usable pics from one model. Could someone tell me the best way to recruit more models for this business?


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  • aprilkorova
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    • Feb 2001
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    #2
    This is not my area of expertise, but, I would think local newpapers. On your site also put a link for people that want to sell their pics, either of themselves or if they own exclusives. I don't know what the protocol is with recruiting at strip clubs and the like, they probably wouldn't like that though.

    Oh...I was just ICQ'd from a vet here at this board, wiZd0m. I asked him and he says he buys at Matrix and from David Lace. I'm assuming that is exclusive content not models you can photograph yourself though.
    Good luck.

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    • dank
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      • Mar 2001
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      #3
      so far I've been offering models $100 for one photo shoot which takes anywhere form 1-4 hours depending on how prepared the model is. I've also approached women and offered them 50% of all net profits made from their pics and that's how I got my 1st model but I think I'm gonna put an ad in the paper offering $100 for a nude photo shoot.

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      • Exxxotica
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        • Jan 2001
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        #4
        Hey Dank.....wazzzz up?

        Nice to see you here. Im glad you are finally asking some questions and looking for info.
        Your a great photographer...you just need to get your ass in gear and get motivated.


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        • X-Web
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          #5
          the rates are usually from 100 to 200 depending how hot they are... but if u are going to offer only 100 bux.. hope u can find some hot girls..

          any questions feel free sending it to [email protected]

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          • boneprone
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            #6
            something you really really must learn about is how to prove you are legal content proveder.. If you dont have proof it has a muli year jail sentence, and that allpies to the content provider and the webmaster.

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            • boneprone
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              #7
              In addition to letting buyers know your images meet sec 18 U.S.C. 2257
              You must also supply the buyer with the appropriate documentation. This should and may include of course at the mininmium a model release form.. What MUST be on it is filled in and completed her social security number her date of birth and her signature on the release.. Also get a witness to sign the form also.. Have a space for the photographer to sign, the amount, the witness, and the models signature with her social security and date of birth..
              Then take a photo of her with her social security card in one hand, and social security in the other, and have her hold it up to her face to prove it is her.. Then you are secured. Then you can sell your shit and give people the piece of mind you are legit.

              2257 is very very serious and is becoming more so with the new administration.. Display of photos with out it will lead to a significant prison sentence.

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              • X-Web
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                #8
                hmmmm i was wondering.. about social security card..

                what about driver licence or photo id and stuff like that..

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                • boneprone
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                  #9
                  Another item to take into account is the obscenity laws.. They havent been enforced much with the previous administration, but there is concern in the industry that it is all about to change. With the new administration precautions must be addressed. You must be prepared that they will be enforcing these laws much sooner than later as they had promised to special intrest groups that elected them.

                  If convicted and your photos-content are deemed as obscene you can run into some vactaion time in the local prision as well.


                  Breifly defined obscene is defined as anything that holds no artistic or scientific value. A girl with cumm dripping down her face may be questionable now. Or even a gangbang, so do at your own risk..

                  These are not new laws by any means, but the previous administration was very liberal, and allowed our industry to grow into what it is today.. The new administration as vowed to enforce these vague laws, and stop and eliminnate obsenity to protect the children, and public from viewing it..

                  Should be intresting where everything stands
                  in a few years..

                  Also take note that the obscentiy law is typically enforced and intrpreted on a state by state basis.. California tends to be where 90% of the content providers and movie prodcers work, for a good reason..




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                  • boneprone
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                    #10
                    What Conservative state was it that the lady was arrested for owning a dildo?? It was deemed as obscene, and even though she had it in her own home, it was enforced as obscene and she was arrested and jailed for it? I shit you not, this recently happened!

                    And its only gunna get worse in these states, and change will occur in all others as well to some extent.

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                    • boneprone
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                      #11
                      get all of that shit.. You MUST PROOVE that the model is who she cliams.. You have to have a licence, and social security card.. Then you must prove it is hers.. This can be done by taking a photo of her holding up her photo id which may be a valid drivers licence or passport, also a social security card.. Heres a boneprone model and how we do it.

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                      • boneprone
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                        #12
                        a legal good contract should look like this:


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                        • Pete Dogg
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                          #13
                          Big ups to boneprone for all that info.
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                          • boneprone
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                            #14
                            Not sure if any of you know but
                            Dank = Dan Churchill

                            Yep the one and only...

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                            • aprilkorova
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                              #15
                              You mean I tried to give advice to Dan Churchill? *chagrined*

                              Hey Dan, at least I admitted to not being an expert LOL.

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                              • boneprone
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                                #16
                                Hes been an adult film actor off and on, and now he wants to be a content provider.. I wish him all the best, and hope this helped.

                                [This message has been edited by boneprone (edited 04-04-2001).]

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                                • boneprone
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                                  #17
                                  I buy from outside companies as well. Matrix is where Ive gotten some, met them at the convention, and also freshphotos.com

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                                  • Pete Dogg
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                                    #18
                                    Dan Churchill. Ok, I don't know what he does or who he is, fill me in?

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                                    • dank
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                                      #19
                                      hey boneprone and all you others thanx for all that advice. I know it's gonna be real handy for me to know all this. And to Pete Dogg.....I'm Dan Churchill.....high quality porn content provider and Super Soaker legend! 12 squirts baby!!! Just take that L-Arginine in large doses.......works every time! I really need more models and maybe some of you can tell me in detail what kind of material you look for in good content when I get more........

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                                      • boneprone
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                                        #20
                                        Ahh the legend lives.. The story of the 12 squirts is almost an Urban Legend, but it is true.. Ohhh so true.. Dank is the Man.

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                                        • X-Web
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                                          #21
                                          dank could u either email me more info about your contents or icq me
                                          [email protected] or 12725174

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                                          • boneprone
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                                            #22
                                            Dan Churchill is a true living legend.. Are you gunna be at the convnetion again in June?

                                            [This message has been edited by boneprone (edited 04-04-2001).]

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                                            • Pete Dogg
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                                              #23
                                              How did you shoot that much?

                                              What's L-Arginine?
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                                              • boneprone
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                                                #24
                                                He also took it with other shit, and mixed it with other shit.. I think he took some bee pollen and some other shit also

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                                                • dank
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                                                  #25
                                                  If I offered you webmasters 30-60 minute video tapes, could you use them or would rather have 30-60 second long video clips?


                                                  Do you pay more for cumshots?

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                                                  • sweetjimmy
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                                                    #26
                                                    Dank do you really have genital warts?

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                                                    • dank
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                                                      #27
                                                      no never had genital warts.......Boneprone was referring to a bunch of warts that I used to have on my right hand but I got rid of all of them.

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                                                      • X-Web
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                                                        #28
                                                        hmm i would rather more than 60 min

                                                        and then i can edit them or leave it full legnth for some people who want to watch full legnth (more recurring members ) my opinion

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                                                        • X-Web
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                                                          #29
                                                          and dank whats your website?

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                                                          • boneprone
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                                                            #30
                                                            He doesnt have a website.. He is part of the boneprone family.

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                                                            • X-Web
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                                                              #31
                                                              ok.. whats your icq number again boneprone.. i lost it.. (or send me a message..)



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                                                              • boneprone
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                                                                #32
                                                                arent you the guy that wanted 25 k to start me up a casino?



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                                                                • a32bitwhore
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I believe I read an article on starting up as a photographer by the SobeGirls guy. It's was on either YNOT or AdultBuzz. Anyone remember?
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                                                                  • dank
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I don't have a website I just sell content to those who do.

                                                                    I don't have an ICQ number yet.

                                                                    And to x-web: That's a good idea. I could leave the editing to you. But are all the webmasters willing to edit their own stuff or do they prefer it already in a package of some still pics, some video clips, and some full length videos? If I could sell just the videos and let site owners edit it themselves that would be great! There's a program you can get called Picture It that enables you take any still frame from a full length video so that you could pick and choose any pic you want from the video footage. I could get content to you a lot quicker if you're willing to do the editing youself. But if you don't want to edit it I can still get good content to any of you.

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                                                                    • Pete Dogg
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      dank,

                                                                      why not sell some unedited content for cheaper cause you don't have to spend anytime editing. then sell some pre edited content for more money?

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                                                                      • boneprone
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        that could work but will you buy some unedited film clips form a camcorder?

                                                                        If soo, this would be easy for dank.. He has lots of film camcorder uneditied footage.. But the avarge webmaster doesnt have the sotware and harware to convert that to mpeg files does he?

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                                                                        • Pete Dogg
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          nope they don't have the equipment to convert it to mpeg.

                                                                          I thought he ment selling unedited mpegs.
                                                                          Most people would prefer, edited stuff, but some paysites, might like long unedited stuff.

                                                                          Just some thoughts.

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                                                                          • dank
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            How much do you think a webmaster might pay for say about 3 hours of unedited content on mpeg with all softcore and hardcore?

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                                                                            • dank
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              I can get the equipment needed to convert it to mpeg myself but how much more does a person pay for edited content as opposed to unedited?
                                                                              Or maybe it's a question of how many people are going to buy unedited to content at all as opposed to edited.

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                                                                              • boneprone
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                yo Dank.. Exxxotica has that type of equipment, and can reffer you as to what you need to buy.. Ask him.. I can giv ya his phone or email.. Or better yet maybe ask the question here so others can learn!

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                                                                                • boneprone
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  he was converting regular vhs tapes to mpeg... But I believe it is even eaiser to convert camcorder tape to mpeg.. Especially digital 8 like you have.. What type of camcorder do you have? digitial 8? Mini Dv?
                                                                                  There are tons of programs that convert that shit over for ya.. In fack I think you can download much of it for free on the net!

                                                                                  Post a new thread asking about it on the message board and see if anyone helps.

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                                                                                  • boneprone
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    ok here we go..

                                                                                    Find out what program you need, and it is all free for download at this site. http://download.cnet.com/

                                                                                    I am positive they have what you need, you just need to find out what exactly you need to conert your vids to mpeg, and download the program for free formt he site..
                                                                                    They even have drivers and all you would ever need for free!

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                                                                                    • Exxxotica
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      The capture device can either be a PCI card, or a external device connected through your USB port.

                                                                                      I use the USB connected video capture device called Dazzle...nothing high tech at all. It will convert DVD, VHS, whatever into .MPG or .RM format. It has a simple program in there for editing the video as well.

                                                                                      Its pretty good quality too. I convert VHS for non adult companies too. Putting their product demo video into a webformat they can use on their websites. They seem to be happy with the results.

                                                                                      I sure there are a lot more sophisticatd ways of doing it...but Ive never had the need to...not for what Im doing anyways.

                                                                                      Dank...sounds like you have got some sort of scheme cookin!


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                                                                                      • boneprone
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        how much was that program, and is there a cheaper less detialed version?

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                                                                                        • dank
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Yep, I do have a scheme cookin and I got some info about something called conversions plus. It sell s for about $69.95 and I can take my dv footage and put on any format including mpeg or jpeg.

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                                                                                          • dank
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                                                                                            #46

                                                                                            There's also other programs I just found about at Fry's Electronics that only do mpeg and they start at about $20.

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                                                                                            • boneprone
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              go to the store, and have them demo it for you.. Take in your camera, (with the fuck fest footage) and have em show you how easy it is to trasnfer.. Get the one that is easiest to use since a lot of this is new for you.

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                                                                                              • Exxxotica
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by boneprone:
                                                                                                Take in your camera, (with the fuck fest footage)
                                                                                                LOL The guys at Fry's would love that! I can see their faces now when Dank starts up his video for them!



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                                                                                                • X-Web
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  heh.. well i dunno how much i would pay.. it depends on the quality and stuff.. and what kind of category..

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                                                                                                  • dank
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    most of my models will be between the ages of 18-24. Rarely ever older than that. But I concentrate on just providing the best quality that I can and they're pics of girls in all different positoins and poses some masturbating some giving blow jobs and cum shots and eventually some fucking and some 2-action and guy girl action straight fucking will be a little harder to provide.

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