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  • GapingWound
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 96

    #31
    Originally posted by boobmaster
    In the early 90s, lots of people did. People made millions back then selling baseball cards and memorabilia. Even today there are people on ebay who make bank in this market.

    Selling porn isn't so different.
    Granted. Baseball cards made some people money, at one point in history or another. Comparing this to porn is like comparing snake oil to electricity.

    Porn is here to stay. It's been around forever. The Romans had it, the Greeks had it, The Egyptians had it. We have it.

    The internet will make NO difference. It's just a different medium. If you can't figure out how to capitalize on that, it sounds like a personal problem, not a "The Sky is Falling" problem.
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    • Fizzgig
      Registered User
      • Feb 2004
      • 9649

      #32
      I'm willing to give up signups and customer support emails for an internet full of decently intelligent surfers.

      How many times have you gotten emails from a customer or surfers reading "Help me! I can't find the enter link LOL"
      "If you send me more photos I will join your site"
      "why are all your pics so small?" (last one referring to THUMBNAILS!)

      This goes for people who hire designers as well, one lady I worked for last year called me up - "Tia, I need your advice, I want to make money on the internet, and buy a computer, I'm not going to buy a computer unless you can show me I will make money"

      So I did. And she did. I built her a website (that indeed made her a profit) and when the webhost dinged her credit card 6 months later (to auto-renew) she went ballistic and submitted a fraud report against me and the hosting company to her cc company!

      To hell with that, not worth the headache.

      Like I said, when the dumbasses go away, so will the spam.
      ---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---

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      • pussyluver
        Clueless OleMan
        • Mar 2003
        • 11009

        #33
        Originally posted by Fizzgig
        It's your job to outsmart the #1 jerks on google, heck, when my sites were running I had quite a few top 1,2,3...spots on google. I was proud of that.
        If you're looking to get top spots for "sex" and "hot teens" and expecting those who use those terms to give you anything more than a high bandwidth bill, then you are sadly mistaken.
        If you expect revenue from such terms, then it's impossible without using circle-jerks, banner farms and the like, because, like I said, the only thing those surfers will do for you is give you impressions and clicks.

        When you target your google customers with meta's that are precise and truly advertise what you offer, you will bring in quality surfers who want what you give them, and in return, will get higher listings on google than the bullshitters.

        I've always been all for quality over quantity. I don't want dumbasses on my sites, dumbasses are for circle-jerks.
        Can't argue with that at all - agree. ahmmm, some surfers are stupid in the computer use. IF they're searching for free porn, well I guess let them have the crap. Think that the *crap* still chases some of those away I want as conversions.
        Last edited by pussyluver; 07-10-2004, 11:17 PM.

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        • Dagwolf
          President of Canada
          • Sep 2003
          • 23141

          #34
          Originally posted by pussyluver
          A man of few words, I see.
          Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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          • pussyluver
            Clueless OleMan
            • Mar 2003
            • 11009

            #35
            Originally posted by Dagwolf
            A man of few words, I see.
            Not intentional - corrected with edit. Was it me or V-bulletin?

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            • Fizzgig
              Registered User
              • Feb 2004
              • 9649

              #36
              Originally posted by pussyluver
              Can't argue with that at all - agree. ahmmm, some surfers are stupid in the computer use. IF they're searching for free porn, well I guess let them have the crap. Think that the *crap* still chases some of those away I want as conversions.
              Yes well I am aware there are different dumbass categories, but for the benefit of this thread in particular, I'm speaking of those who endorse the spammers.

              For instance, when I get an email that reads:

              "En L1arG77 you r P@E nis"

              I don't say to myself "ooh wow, cool! Lemme clicky!"

              But, people do - and if you want people like that paying for your content, suit yourself, you're no better than the people you are talking against in this thread.
              ---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---

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              • pussyluver
                Clueless OleMan
                • Mar 2003
                • 11009

                #37
                Originally posted by Fizzgig
                Yes well I am aware there are different dumbass categories, but for the benefit of this thread in particular, I'm speaking of those who endorse the spammers.

                For instance, when I get an email that reads:

                "En L1arG77 you r P@E nis"

                I don't say to myself "ooh wow, cool! Lemme clicky!"

                But, people do - and if you want people like that paying for your content, suit yourself, you're no better than the people you are talking against in this thread.
                Point is people sending that bullshit hurt this industry like hell. Many of them high school punks and some make $$ at it. I don't chase that type of customer. Do I want them? Promise they won't be a charge back??? I don't get those anyway. Think I have one growth banner up on of my sites. I don't do email campaigns. Some would same that's stupid they make money.

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                • montel
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 2606

                  #38
                  the internet is being destroyed by greedy people in the same way that our world is being destroyed by greedy people.........
                  Barefootsies

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                  • pussyluver
                    Clueless OleMan
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 11009

                    #39
                    Hey Fizz, enjoyed the chat. Hour is late here, so off to bed for me.

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                    • Fizzgig
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 9649

                      #40
                      Goodnight to ya.
                      Don't let the dumbasses bite! (That didn't rhyme, did it?)
                      ---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---

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                      • Mishi
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 1054

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Fizzgig
                        It's your job to outsmart the #1 jerks on google, heck, when my sites were running I had quite a few top 1,2,3...spots on google. I was proud of that.
                        If you're looking to get top spots for "sex" and "hot teens" and expecting those who use those terms to give you anything more than a high bandwidth bill, then you are sadly mistaken.
                        If you expect revenue from such terms, then it's impossible without using circle-jerks, banner farms and the like, because, like I said, the only thing those surfers will do for you is give you impressions and clicks.

                        When you target your google customers with meta's that are precise and truly advertise what you offer, you will bring in quality surfers who want what you give them, and in return, will get higher listings on google than the bullshitters.

                        I've always been all for quality over quantity. I don't want dumbasses on my sites, dumbasses are for circle-jerks.
                        I like you.
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                        • graphicsbytia
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2618

                          #42
                          the internet isn't being destroyed, it's evolving.

                          My 13 yr old boys surf the internet all the time, get viruses, learn how to get rid of them and move on.. it doesn't phase them a bit, where me, it throws me into a tailspin.. that's because I'm not a kid, and I remember when it was a lot easier to surf.

                          To newer surfers, it's no big deal, they adapt because they've never known it to be any different

                          If we change with the times we won't be left behind

                          noway I'm quitting my day job!

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                          • UnclePecker
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 266

                            #43
                            Originally posted by boobmaster
                            [BWhy I'm keeping my day job [/B]
                            Because your face looks like a ass hat?

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                            • Tipsy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 6989

                              #44
                              Elements of truth in the original post. However it's far more true to say those with vision, a willingness to adapt, a POSITIVE attitude and a little intelligence will still be here in 10/20/30 years time making good money from the Internet alone.

                              Those without any of those qualities will still be working for someone else bitching each night about the bad day they had at work, how badly they need a break, how the could do with more income etc etc.
                              Ignorance is never bliss.

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                              • dunefield
                                www.barely18movies.com
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 10920

                                #45
                                i can see your point of view regarding how people are using nasty tactics to get sales/attention/traffic... but i really doubt the internet will die... it's just all these nasty tactics make the surfer smarter making it harder to make sales...

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