A friend that served under me as a young Squad Leader - GoFuckYourself.com

theking · 07-09-2004, 10:31 PM

...in the 1st Gulf War...called me this evening to inform me that after eighteen years of service he has called it quits. He got back from Iraq in April and his current enlistment was up in June. He explained that even though he is only two years from retirement...because he is married now and has children...he could not risk being sent back into combat again. He had a couple of close calls during his time in Iraq and now places more value on his life...because he has a family. He asked me if I was disappointed in him and I told him..."No...it was your decision to make." Though I did not tell him this...it was also the best decision for the men serving with...and under him...because with his attitude it could get men killed.

BradM · 07-09-2004, 10:33 PM

Absolutely. You have to be a mindless emotionless drone to be in the army.

It takes a "special" person to do it.

Jakke PNG · 07-09-2004, 10:33 PM

fascinating

NoCarrier · 07-09-2004, 10:35 PM

Those guys are heroes. But they're also human beings with families.

It's so sad to see the government use lies for all that shit and corruption.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 10:35 PM

Good thing ... cauz this whole war was a big scam ... he would have risked his life over nothing

baddog · 07-09-2004, 10:42 PM

kind of a drag to lose all that retirement money though

theking · 07-09-2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Good thing ... cauz this whole war was a big scam ... he would have risked his life over nothing

The war was/is not a scam. The WMD's/WMD materials were only used as a selling point for public support...because it was believed by our Intel agencies...as well as British...French and German intel agencies that Iraq did indeed possess WMD's/WMD materials...but it was never the most important reason...out of a list of reasons for the war.

BradM · 07-09-2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
kind of a drag to lose all that retirement money though

Kind of a drag to die in iraq. I'd gladly trade any amount of money for my life.

Roger · 07-09-2004, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
The war was/is not a scam. The WMD's/WMD materials were only used as a selling point for public support...because it was believed by our Intel agencies...as well as British...French and German intel agencies that Iraq did indeed possess WMD's/WMD materials...but it was never the most important reason...out of a list of reasons for the war.

Yeah, killing muslims was the reason and increasing terrorism.

theking · 07-09-2004, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Roger
Yeah, killing muslims was the reason and increasing terrorism.

There is not...and never was...a singular reason.

Roger · 07-09-2004, 10:59 PM

A Kissinger quote, the current admin probably shares the same view.

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy"

Roger · 07-09-2004, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
There is not...and never was...a singular reason.

Yeah I already know that there are many crazy reasons.
Best of luck to your friend though.

J.Lond · 07-09-2004, 11:19 PM

He can always return to active duty when and if things settle down. There is a ten year limit on returning to active duty. That way he only has to put in the two years and he will get his benefits. I have spent sometime in the Marine Corps and know exactly how he feels. I would love to go back but with a kid on the way it's to much to risk for a war that's not even sanctioned by the U.N.

Best Regards,

J.Lond

Paul Markham · 07-09-2004, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
The war was/is not a scam. The WMD's/WMD materials were only used as a selling point for public support...because it was believed by our Intel agencies...as well as British...French and German intel agencies that Iraq did indeed possess WMD's/WMD materials...but it was never the most important reason...out of a list of reasons for the war.

This idiot has it in his head that he knows the reasons. Fool posted them way back as they begin to look more and more stupid it's satisfying to see he no longer bores us with them.

theidiot or pooffinder do you really think Bush gives a fuck about what you think?

I will be seeing a guy who fought inside Iraq before the invasion, he's with the Specail Services, he's convinced the top brass KNEW their was nothing to resist them.

In the Gulf war Saddam had an army and equipment, they were bombed into oblivion before the troops moved. This time the troops went straight in. What does that tell you?

If Saddam had of been as dangerous as they were playing it, there wouldn't have been enough body bags to bring the dead home. As it turns out the resistance was minimal and very easily dealt with. Now the question is did they know that or were they just lucky?

Rochard · 07-09-2004, 11:40 PM

Here we go again about Iraq.

We signed a peace treaty, Iraq refused to abide by it, they shot at our planes on a daily basis, a defacto state of war existed, so we kicked their asses.

I feel for your friend. For four years I trained for it and I was ready to serve. Thank God I never got called.

SixNine · 07-09-2004, 11:41 PM

Your friend must be an E6 or E7? If he brought his PLT or SQD back from Iraq then he can leave th ARMY without regret...

BTW... I like the way you defend Soldiers in GFY threads, but I think your off on some of your thoughts.... if you're going to Florida find me and we'll have a good convo, one combat vet to another.

SCOUTS OUT!

SaberNine

Thechad · 07-09-2004, 11:45 PM

I claim BULLSHIT!

I was a marine for 10 years. I fought in Iraq and Afgan. No one I know wanted to leave their friends, if they got wounded they did not want to leave their friends and let them fight alone(and many had familys, I know I am one of them). It's not a government issue or a what's the right thing in the world issue to do, it's a military never let your buddy or people under you down issue.
So keep you B.S. peaceloving propagandia out of this if you want to make up stories of elected officals fine I support it. Don't make up stories of the men and women serving the country, who will fight to the end for what they believe in and who will never want to leave the people serving with them's side.

Semper FI

Paul Markham · 07-09-2004, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine

BTW... I like the way you defend Soldiers in GFY threads, but I think your off on some of your thoughts.... if you're going to Florida find me and we'll have a good convo, one combat vet to another.

This guy can't afford to go to Florida, he lives with his Mum.

Steen2 · 07-10-2004, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Good thing ... cauz this whole war was a big scam ... he would have risked his life over nothing

lol, here we go.

People can never cool it when it comes to politics can they?

Centurion · 07-10-2004, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine

BTW... I like the way you defend Soldiers in GFY threads, but I think your off on some of your thoughts.... if you're going to Florida find me and we'll have a good convo, one combat vet to another.

He ain't no combat vet.
He was a cook in the army and slipped on some potato peels and hurt his back so they sent him back to the states.

theking · 07-10-2004, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger
A Kissinger quote, the current admin probably shares the same view.

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy"

I do not know if Kissinger made that statement or not...but it is fact that the military is used as an extention of foreign policy.

theking · 07-10-2004, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
This idiot has it in his head that he knows the reasons. Fool posted them way back as they begin to look more and more stupid it's satisfying to see he no longer bores us with them.

theidiot or pooffinder do you really think Bush gives a fuck about what you think?

I will be seeing a guy who fought inside Iraq before the invasion, he's with the Specail Services, he's convinced the top brass KNEW their was nothing to resist them.

In the Gulf war Saddam had an army and equipment, they were bombed into oblivion before the troops moved. This time the troops went straight in. What does that tell you?

If Saddam had of been as dangerous as they were playing it, there wouldn't have been enough body bags to bring the dead home. As it turns out the resistance was minimal and very easily dealt with. Now the question is did they know that or were they just lucky?

Clueless...the US never feared and never stated that they feared Iraq's military. The US...of course knew the size of the forces they opposed...the dispositon of their forces...the number and type of war machines they possessed. Their was not much if any luck involved.

theking · 07-10-2004, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thechad
I claim BULLSHIT!

I was a marine for 10 years. I fought in Iraq and Afgan. No one I know wanted to leave their friends, if they got wounded they did not want to leave their friends and let them fight alone(and many had familys, I know I am one of them). It's not a government issue or a what's the right thing in the world issue to do, it's a military never let your buddy or people under you down issue.
So keep you B.S. peaceloving propagandia out of this if you want to make up stories of elected officals fine I support it. Don't make up stories of the men and women serving the country, who will fight to the end for what they believe in and who will never want to leave the people serving with them's side.

Semper FI

I served with the 82nd Airborne Division for 12 years...until the 1st Gulf War ended my career. He did not let any of his friends down...or leave anyone. He was sent over with his unit and he returned to the CONUS with his unit. He choose not to re-enlist again.

theking · 07-10-2004, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine
Your friend must be an E6 or E7? If he brought his PLT or SQD back from Iraq then he can leave th ARMY without regret...

BTW... I like the way you defend Soldiers in GFY threads, but I think your off on some of your thoughts.... if you're going to Florida find me and we'll have a good convo, one combat vet to another.

SCOUTS OUT!

SaberNine

He was an E-7 PLT SGT...same as I was when he served as one of my Squad Leaders. He returned to the CONUS with his PLT.

to you.

Mike AI · 07-10-2004, 07:58 AM

theking I am not even sure why you waste your time posting this here on GFY. All you do is invite attacks from the kooks and eurotrash.

SixNine · 07-10-2004, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
He was an E-7 PLT SGT...same as I was when he served as one of my Squad Leaders. He returned to the CONUS with his PLT.

to you.

Then he's good to go

07-09-2004, 10:31 PM	#1
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	A friend that served under me as a young Squad Leader ...in the 1st Gulf War...called me this evening to inform me that after eighteen years of service he has called it quits. He got back from Iraq in April and his current enlistment was up in June. He explained that even though he is only two years from retirement...because he is married now and has children...he could not risk being sent back into combat again. He had a couple of close calls during his time in Iraq and now places more value on his life...because he has a family. He asked me if I was disappointed in him and I told him..."No...it was your decision to make." Though I did not tell him this...it was also the best decision for the men serving with...and under him...because with his attitude it could get men killed. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	fascinating __________________ ..and I'm off.

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NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	Those guys are heroes. But they're also human beings with families. It's so sad to see the government use lies for all that shit and corruption. __________________

07-09-2004, 11:40 PM	#15
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,024	Here we go again about Iraq. We signed a peace treaty, Iraq refused to abide by it, they shot at our planes on a daily basis, a defacto state of war existed, so we kicked their asses. I feel for your friend. For four years I trained for it and I was ready to serve. Thank God I never got called. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

07-09-2004, 11:45 PM	#17
Thechad Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Des Moines Posts: 579	I claim BULLSHIT! I was a marine for 10 years. I fought in Iraq and Afgan. No one I know wanted to leave their friends, if they got wounded they did not want to leave their friends and let them fight alone(and many had familys, I know I am one of them). It's not a government issue or a what's the right thing in the world issue to do, it's a military never let your buddy or people under you down issue. So keep you B.S. peaceloving propagandia out of this if you want to make up stories of elected officals fine I support it. Don't make up stories of the men and women serving the country, who will fight to the end for what they believe in and who will never want to leave the people serving with them's side. Semper FI __________________ I don't deserve a signature

07-09-2004, 10:33 PM	#2
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Absolutely. You have to be a mindless emotionless drone to be in the army. It takes a "special" person to do it.

07-09-2004, 10:42 PM	#6
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	kind of a drag to lose all that retirement money though

07-09-2004, 10:59 PM	#11
Roger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MetroCity Posts: 3,181	A Kissinger quote, the current admin probably shares the same view. "Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy"

07-09-2004, 11:19 PM	#13
J.Lond Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 33	He can always return to active duty when and if things settle down. There is a ten year limit on returning to active duty. That way he only has to put in the two years and he will get his benefits. I have spent sometime in the Marine Corps and know exactly how he feels. I would love to go back but with a kid on the way it's to much to risk for a war that's not even sanctioned by the U.N. Best Regards, J.Lond

07-09-2004, 11:41 PM	#16
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	Your friend must be an E6 or E7? If he brought his PLT or SQD back from Iraq then he can leave th ARMY without regret... BTW... I like the way you defend Soldiers in GFY threads, but I think your off on some of your thoughts.... if you're going to Florida find me and we'll have a good convo, one combat vet to another. SCOUTS OUT! SaberNine

07-10-2004, 07:58 AM	#25
Mike AI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Elysian Fields Posts: 3,624	theking I am not even sure why you waste your time posting this here on GFY. All you do is invite attacks from the kooks and eurotrash. __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!