Designers : Do you guys always want 100% up front? - GoFuckYourself.com

Chris · 07-05-2004, 09:26 AM

I had this company come to come offering to do a design i needed done.

Was a good price but they wanted me to pay 100% upfront and then they would start working on it on wednesday ...

Is that normal? They where not even sure if they knew what I wanted or understood it but would give it a try

So i would be out my money if I didntlike what they produced?

eroswebmaster · 07-05-2004, 09:27 AM

No...50% down on orders over $300.00

100% for any orders under $300.00

MR2 · 07-05-2004, 09:28 AM

hehe, yeah. we on mr2creationz don't ask $$ upfront.

David! · 07-05-2004, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
No...50% down on orders over $300.00

100% for any orders under $300.00

Yup, seems like the average

gregtx · 07-05-2004, 09:30 AM

never pay more than 50% up front... otherwise the designer has no reason to make sure you are satisfied with the work...

Doctor Dre · 07-05-2004, 09:30 AM

I charge always 100 % upfront except if I know the person very well (Lets say 5-6 ppl in this industry) .

Ive made the error of not getting upfront and it ALWAYS took too much time .

I am VERY easy on the refounds/partial refounds if there is no other way ... as long as I dont loose too much $

Tala · 07-05-2004, 09:30 AM

It's rather a two-edged sword. On the one hand, the designer, (or in my case, writer), wants a guarantee of payment. On the other hand, the client wants a guarantee of work.

I don't ask for 100% up front. I ask for half/half. Half up front, half when job is compete. That way we both get a better guarantee.

Folks who stiff me get outed. Kinda my little personal guarantee that no one else will be stiffed by that particular client.

doornx · 07-05-2004, 09:32 AM

From well known people cod is fine, small order < $100 upfront and on larger orders a % in advance

Doctor Dre · 07-05-2004, 09:32 AM

Once I have a lot of experience with a customer I dont mind thought ...

loverboy · 07-05-2004, 09:47 AM

We always give a Week Trial (FREE of charge). Once he is happy, then we bill the client upfront for a month of service.

It's not hard to trust these days.. too many scammers out there. It's the only way you protect your business.

SykkBoy · 07-05-2004, 09:50 AM

hmmm, why do I smell an opportunity for a sort of designer escrow system

Chris · 07-05-2004, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2
hmmm, why do I smell an opportunity for a sort of designer escrow system

Very good idea

fuzebox · 07-05-2004, 10:00 AM

When I program I charge 150% up front, give 50% back when I'm done

$tandaman · 07-05-2004, 10:05 AM

We charge 100% for orders under $500 and 50/50 for projects over that.

Made the mistake a few times, and learned from it.. Like Dre said, would trust only a few people to do it without a deposit.

MR2 · 07-05-2004, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by fuzebox
When I program I charge 150% up front, give 50% back when I'm done

Chris · 07-05-2004, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by $tandaman
We charge 100% for orders under $500 and 50/50 for projects over that.

Made the mistake a few times, and learned from it.. Like Dre said, would trust only a few people to do it without a deposit.

hmm but what if the customer is not happy with the work you did ?

Doctor Dre · 07-05-2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
hmm but what if the customer is not happy with the work you did ?

Depends whos fault it is ...

If its my own, I refound

If the customer havent given the correct informations or is just too picky, I give a partial refound ...

There are some customers that give me more trouble for 50 $ then some for 5000 $

eroswebmaster · 07-05-2004, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre

There are some customers that give me more trouble for 50 $ then some for 5000 $

shima · 07-05-2004, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
No...50% down on orders over $300.00

100% for any orders under $300.00

same here, only our line is ~$700.

shima · 07-05-2004, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
hmm but what if the customer is not happy with the work you did ?

In 7 years of my experience I've had only 2 clients who didn't like what we did.. Check out that portfolio http://www.gold-design.com/portfolio.html

Juicy D. Links · 07-05-2004, 12:34 PM

Designers pay me to have the honor of creating a desgin for me to use

shima · 07-05-2004, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Designers pay me to have the honor of creating a desgin for me to use

Juicy, would you like the payment upfront?

Nick416 · 07-05-2004, 12:45 PM

I charge 50% up front.

Juicy D. Links · 07-05-2004, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by shima
Juicy, would you like the payment upfront?

nah you can pay me after the design is done

wargames · 07-05-2004, 12:49 PM

I would never pay 100% up front it gives the designer the option to lag on your design.

prostock · 07-05-2004, 01:10 PM

we also charge 50% upfront before we start work and 50% upon completion

Shoehorn! · 07-05-2004, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
I had this company come to come offering to do a design i needed done.

Was a good price but they wanted me to pay 100% upfront and then they would start working on it on wednesday ...

Is that normal? They where not even sure if they knew what I wanted or understood it but would give it a try

So i would be out my money if I didntlike what they produced?

I think it depends on who you are dealing with. I have people that do design for me that I pay them when they get done. Before they start they tell me a ballpark, after they get done they tell me the price and I pay them, of course they've done stuff for me before so we both know the other one isn't got to shaft the other one. Some companies that do hardcore shit want a deposit.

Roald · 07-05-2004, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Designers pay me to have the honor of creating a desgin for me to use

Anyway, mostly 50 (or 100) upfront for new clients, returing clients can decide if they want to pay upfront or after the job

graphicsbytia · 07-05-2004, 03:01 PM

we always do 100% up front unless we know the person.. and even then, we may do that

In the beginning when we weren't known, it was 50 up front and 50 at completion

But now that people know us, if they don't want to pay up front, we suggest they go elsewhere.. been burned too many times.. well not too many.. just a couple.. but that's too many

07-05-2004, 09:26 AM	#1
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07-05-2004, 09:27 AM	#2
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07-05-2004, 09:30 AM	#7
Tala Fucked if I know Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Do you have a flag? Posts: 23,368	It's rather a two-edged sword. On the one hand, the designer, (or in my case, writer), wants a guarantee of payment. On the other hand, the client wants a guarantee of work. I don't ask for 100% up front. I ask for half/half. Half up front, half when job is compete. That way we both get a better guarantee. Folks who stiff me get outed. Kinda my little personal guarantee that no one else will be stiffed by that particular client. __________________ ICQ: 11120676 \| Google: mindcrime \| Skype: suitemindcrime\|E-Mail: mindcrime AT gmail.com\|PR girl with great writing skills for hire!!!! Contact me to work for YOU!\|TECHIEMEDIA? 24/7 support from some of the best techs in the biz. Tell Jim that I sent you.

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07-05-2004, 09:47 AM	#10
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	We always give a Week Trial (FREE of charge). Once he is happy, then we bill the client upfront for a month of service. It's not hard to trust these days.. too many scammers out there. It's the only way you protect your business.

07-05-2004, 09:50 AM	#11
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07-05-2004, 10:00 AM	#13
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,119	When I program I charge 150% up front, give 50% back when I'm done

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$tandaman Pimping 8EZ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,529	We charge 100% for orders under $500 and 50/50 for projects over that. Made the mistake a few times, and learned from it.. Like Dre said, would trust only a few people to do it without a deposit. __________________ CentroProfits.com - Make money with 3000+ Models! ModelCentro.com - Multiple award winning hosted CMS designed to run solo model sites, with affiliate program built in. Launch your model site in 24 hrs or less! FanCentro.com - Premium social network for SWs & Fans!

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Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Designers pay me to have the honor of creating a desgin for me to use

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07-05-2004, 12:49 PM	#25
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07-05-2004, 01:10 PM	#26
prostock On probation Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: not telling you , the exwife might find me Posts: 4,160	we also charge 50% upfront before we start work and 50% upon completion __________________ ICQ # :158519717

07-05-2004, 03:01 PM	#29
graphicsbytia Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,618	we always do 100% up front unless we know the person.. and even then, we may do that In the beginning when we weren't known, it was 50 up front and 50 at completion But now that people know us, if they don't want to pay up front, we suggest they go elsewhere.. been burned too many times.. well not too many.. just a couple.. but that's too many